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Thread: How Heavy Metal Is Keeping Us Sane

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    Quote Originally Posted by +Suomut+ View Post
    I'm a big Dave Mustaine FAN!, and if I could ever meet, shake hands with, and chit-chat with him that would be something I'd NEVER! forget...no doubt about it.


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    I think good artistic expression is always transcendent in one way or another, be it the ancient half human, half animal figurines of the Upper Paleolithic Hohle Fels or the anti-modernism of Wolves in the Throne Room. And I think it's that which is so appealing about metal music; it's ability to transcend boundaries and how this relates to us. With it's modern instrumentation, production methods and distribution it serves to carry something ancient and primal, with cultural implications that are vehemently anti-contemporary, in what is essentially a very contemporary vehicle. It exists both within our society, in a physical and materialistic manner, and outside of it too, in a philosophical and ideological manner - as too do those who are drawn to metal music to begin with. It is for this reason, I think, that it resonates within us, somewhere, in our frustration and anger, in our not necessarily liking the way that things are but having to live within the boundaries of how things are none the less. It clarifies our thoughts and feelings, comprehending them for us. It is representative in irony of our own ironic state.

    In this respect, metal certainly keeps me sane. It's that which dissuades me from punching a random man in a crowded city street simply because I'm sick to death of tarmac paving slab after tarmac paving slab after tarmac paving slab, roads lined with litter, urbanised pidgeons and teenagers screaming about the latest in 'cool' and 'new', and that man just so happened to be the one who bumped into me on his suited daily commute from a normal household to a normal office job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I think it's safe to say it's a Led Zeppelin-Black Sabbath tie for the "first metal band"



    ...at least they are in my book
    The Beatles made the first heavy metal song, Helter Skelter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    The Beatles made the first heavy metal song, Helter Skelter
    Actually:

    Blue Cheer - Summertime Blues
    Recorded in 1967 at Amigo Studios in North Hollywood, California

    Blue Cheer-Summertime Blues

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    I don't have much affinity for metal in general. Some of the more melodic forms I can appreciate, but most of the stuff that I have been subjected to so far is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. And ostensibly, the 'themes' of the kind of metal people here embrace are often a matter of indulging in a taste for the macabre and the sinister: everywhere one is presented with skulls, corpses, murder, blood, etc. As such it is a predictable expression of modern, secular, progressive society, which is the preeminent culture of death, as it revolves around sterility and the ego instead of new life and the Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anlef View Post
    And ostensibly, the 'themes' of the kind of metal people here embrace are often a matter of indulging in a taste for the macabre and the sinister: everywhere one is presented with skulls, corpses, murder, blood, etc. As such it is a predictable expression of modern, secular, progressive society, which is the preeminent culture of death, as it revolves around sterility and the ego instead of new life and the Good.
    Exactly. It's only a sign of our times: The final stages of Kali Yuga.
    Why not embrace it and go down in a burning inferno of heavy guitars, thunderous drums and high pitched screaming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Exactly. It's only a sign of our times: The final stages of Kali Yuga.
    Why not embrace it and go down in a burning inferno of heavy guitars, thunderous drums and high pitched screaming?
    You need to empty your cup before you refill it, right? What was for me "Anti-Human, Anti-Life" became "The quiet hum of the Earth's dreaming is my new song".

    Metal, even black metal, isn't necessarily full of skulls and other silly imagery and even that metal which is can be subject to a greater degree of understanding if understand is what the individual wants to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I think it's safe to say it's a Led Zeppelin-Black Sabbath tie for the "first metal band"...at least they are in my book
    I won't argue with ya' over these 2 , but I deem them both, overall, "Hard Rock" groups. Now I do consider post-Sabbath OZZY to be "Metal," though...but like you, that's all in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    The Beatles made the first heavy metal song, Helter Skelter
    SEE ABOVE!, you've PLAGIARIZED! +Suomut+.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Actually: Blue Cheer - Summertime Blues Recorded in 1967 at Amigo Studios in North Hollywood, California
    SEE ABOVE!, you've PLAGIARIZED! +Suomut+.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Why not embrace it and go down in a burning inferno of heavy guitars, thunderous drums and high pitched screaming?
    Yeah, why not?, besides, this is all good for WARDING OFF RAPPERS!... ...the GREATEST PLAGUE! on Planet Earth today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Although I do enjoy alcohol I think there is too much alcohol in the metal scene... And drugs and sheep attitude. But a saying goes: The art surpasses the artist
    I meant festivals and shows/concerts. But yes, I do agree with you, a lot of boozing and general sheep behaviour.

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    This is a nice thread about metal, with nobody telling other people they aren't metal enough! We do all recognize the ridiculousness of rap metal though, ha. I loved the article--it was spot on.

    There are three English bands that began metal and four American bands that refined it:

    English:
    Black Sabbath
    Deep Purple
    Led Zeppelin

    American:
    Metallica
    Megadeth
    Anthrax
    Slayer

    I think the big three and big four are well known...

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