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    Die Gro▀schreibung

    A question to the German speakers here: what do you think about the idea to do away with the capitalization of nouns in German? As far as I know the authors of the 1996 spelling reform have discussed such a possibility, but decided not to abolish the capitalization anyway.
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    Why should we do away with it? I see no good reason for doing so, it's additional information that makes reading texts a little more comfortable.

    "It would make learning the language simpler." - what's so difficult about capitalizing nouns?

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    Any idea what the motives are behind this, Amerikanerin?

    On the face of it, it sounds like there's a bit of dumbing-down going on here. Or could it be part of some standardisation process to bring German into line with other EU languages?

    Surely it will create a lot of problems though, with so many (capitalised) nouns having the same spelling as the (non-capitalised) verbs?

    This is a very bad idea and I'm dead against it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinrich Harrer
    Why should we do away with it? I see no good reason for doing so, it's additional information that makes reading texts a little more comfortable.

    "It would make learning the language simpler." - what's so difficult about capitalizing nouns?
    Yeah, it's probably only to adjust to the immigrants so they havent so much trouble with our language. Or our politicians, who failed the grammar tests as well back then....


    I have a faximile reprint of Jacob Grimm's Deutsche Mythologie (somewhen before 1860 I think) where there was not yet capitalisation, and it makes reading so much more laboring. Not even the first letters in a sentence, only names and places are capitalised. Whoever introduced capitalisation, I'm really thankful
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    No, no and no again! I love our "Gro▀schreibung", it makes it easier to read texts and it┤s quite unique. Sorry, but I can┤t see any reason why we should get rid of it? The opposite is the case: I think German people who are too lazy to capitalize nouns have a tendency to be lowbrow. If a non-native makes these mistakes while writing in German language I can accept and forgive it, but natives should use capitalization.

    Well, I think the past Rechtschreibreform was a great nonsense, anyway. "ss" instead of "▀" in most cases: They wanted to abolish our E▀zett to nearly 90%.

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    yeas of course abolish the noun capitalizations. there is no point to them. I would be in favour of abolishing capitalizations altogether in english. you don't need two sets of letters.

    some opinions I have on the dj÷rman language.
    - abolish the -▀ letter and write -s in stead.
    - write -ai in stead of -ei in words such as ein, eisenhower reich etc. because that is more phonetically accurate
    - abolish the letter a with two dots on top and just write -e in it's stead. don't see any point in having it.
    - adopt the letter Ý ═ wich I think you had at one point in your language in stead of writing this sound with a digraph ie



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    Why?

    Maybe if there was a good reason to, but there isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda Trostenhatten View Post
    some opinions I have on the dj÷rman language.
    - abolish the -▀ letter and write -s in stead.
    - write -ai in stead of -ei in words such as ein, eisenhower reich etc. because that is more phonetically accurate
    - abolish the letter a with two dots on top and just write -e in it's stead. don't see any point in having it.
    As you might know "dj÷rman" is a phonetic written language, and ▀ and s are not the same, neither are ai and ei.
    I also don't see your motivation in abolishing the Umlaute while proposing the Ý ═ which I could support. The Umlaute represent a phonetic sound, which would only be through convention the same as ae, oe, etc.
    It makes sense to have them represent their own sound, to retain a phonetically written language.
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    No, keep the language intact, which also means retaining the Eszett and umlauted vowels.

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    No! Why should we do away with capitalisation? I don't see any reason to change it, capitalising nouns is not difficult at all.

    The spelling reform of 1996 was totally retarded in my opinion. Instead of "radfahren" (to ride a bike), we now have to write "Rad fahren" or "Aufsehen erregend" instead of "aufsehenerregend", which I find abhorrent. The only good thing they changed were the ▀ / ss rules, I think they are more logical now. ▀ after long vowels or diphtongs and ss after short vowels. Apart from that the 1996-reform was useless.

    Gro▀schreibung must remain as it is!
    Why should we adapt our spelling to other languages? There really is no need for it and I strongly agree with Godwinson, it kind of is a way of dumbing down. Whoever wants to learn and write our language should make an effort to do it right, not only foreigners but also and especially natives. I hate it when Germans do it wrong, it gives a very unflattering impression of their intelligence . Correct spelling and punctuation is extremely important to me.

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