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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Most of the aid came after Germany declared war on the US. What aid was provided before December 11, 1941 went primarily to Britain through lend-lease.
    What has this to do with what has been said? There are no degrees of the adjective "neutral", are you saying this was a neutral act?
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    I would agree that it does not make much sence to tear away from each other based on nationality. I hate to say this but we as a Germanic whole are fading. If we do not stand as one we will have no chance at recovery. Hate a country's policies, not your folk who reside there. Thats just my two cents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    What has this to do with what has been said? There are no degrees of the adjective "neutral", are you saying this was a neutral act?
    I am saying that by declaring war on America, Hitler set in course much more material aid (particularly to the USSR) that contributed to Germany's defeat or at least its ability to negotiate for peace.

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    Lend-Lease and trade shouldn't be considered "acts of war" imo, but naval blockades and embargos are acts of military aggression and could be argued as acts of war. Then as now, I disagree with US foreign policy regarding their use of embargos and blockades as diplomatic tools. In the case of Germany it would have been much harder to vilify and alienate them if they were our trading partners. The same goes today for Iran, North Korea, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    I am saying that by declaring war on America, Hitler set in course much more material aid (particularly to the USSR) that contributed to Germany's defeat or at least its ability to negotiate for peace.
    You are somehow implying that this was not understood by the German high command, which is ludicrous, since it is such an obvious result.
    Instead you should think about why Germany saw the need to actually do this.

    So again, what is the point in regards to what has been said about the lack of actual neutrality of America? Are you saying it was actually neutral or are you agreeing with me it was not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    Lend-Lease and trade shouldn't be considered "acts of war" imo, ...
    Trade not, lend lease yes, since the reason for its existence is evident.
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