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    Exclamation Spectralisation - Ethnicity & Spectrum Disorders

    what do you think of this

    http://www.spectralisation.net


    Hello and welcome to our website (spectralisation.net) On this website we put forward a theory for debate that spectrum disorders (ADHD, Autism) are increasing with ethnic diversity (driven by an interaction between populations).

    This web site contains a collection of evidence on the subject of spectrum disorders (Autism, ADHD) that points towards ethnic mixing being a cause of the increase we are experiencing. To the left you can see a graph that clearly shows Multi-racial peoples as having the highest rates of ADHD at 9.3% of children, (provided by the Health Resources and Human Administration).

    See: http://mchb.hrsa.gov/nsch07/national...es/05adhd.html

    This is well known with the field of ADHD research. See links below:

    "Multiracial children and children on Medicaid were the groups with the highest reported rates of having been diagnosed with ADHD."
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...se.html?cat=25

    "The highest rates of parent-reported ADHD diagnosis were noted among children covered by Medicaid and multiracial children."
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/data.html

    "The study also found that ADHD rates had highly increased among the oldest group in the survey, adolescents age 15 to 17, as well as in Hispanic and multi-racial children."
    http://www.findcounseling.com/help/n...0_percent.html

    "In addition, 40% of children with an ADHD diagnosis have at least one parent who shares that diagnosis, and the two groups who had the highest percentages of children with an ADHD diagnosis were parents of multiracial children and those covered by Medicaid."
    http://www.brighthub.com/mental-heal...#ixzz1J9qUxbXk

    "Parents of multiracial children were most likely to have reported that their child currently had ADD/ADHD (9.3 percent),"
    http://mchb.hrsa.gov/nsch07/national...es/05adhd.html

    "High rates of ADHD (ever) were noted among multiracial children (14.2%) and children covered by Medicaid (13.6%)."
    http://www.faqs.org/periodicals/2010...#ixzz1J9rC2E7A

    "14.2% of multiracial children had ADHD"
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/207599.php

    "a 46 percent rise in multiracial kids."
    http://www.themoneytimes.com/feature...-10141393.html

    "High rates of ADHD (ever) were noted among multiracial children (14.2%) and children covered by Medicaid (13.6%)."
    http://www.tsplusblog.com/2010/11/do...lly-have-adhd/

    "Boys, adolescents aged 15-17 years, and multiracial and non-Hispanic children all had significantly higher prevalence rates of current ADHD relative to their respective comparator subgroups."
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n56550339/

    "The highest rates of parent-reported ADHD diagnosis were noted among children covered by Medicaid and multiracial children."
    http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=439x108018

    "High rates of ADHD (ever) were noted among multiracial children (14.2%) and children covered by Medicaid (13.6%)."
    http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/...111100549.html

    Mixed race (black and white) Mixed race (Nordic European and Mediterranean European)?

    What we are implying is that if ADHD is at its highest rates among people who are of mixed race descent then perhaps people who are of mixed European descent could also have the higher rates of this condition. Example: Peoples who are ethnically European but a mix of Nordic European (example Norwegian) and Mediterranean European (example Italian) could have a higher chance of having ADHD than peoples of singular European ethnicity (example just - German, Nordic European). This could explain why there appears to be more peoples with this condition in the United States and the United Kingdom because the European populations of these countries are an admixture of peoples from across Europe. We can only theorize this as a possibility as there has never been any study's done yet on ADHD and ethnicity.

    USA - (Ritalin Nation)

    us flagADHD Rates Soar in U.S. Kids: Study

    http://health.msn.com/health-topics/...ntid=100266755

    ADHD Rates Soar Among American Kids

    http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100458394.html

    "This increase was from 7.8 percent in 2003 to 9.5 percent in 2007," she said. "When we project that to the American population, that means that a million more children were diagnosed with ADHD in 2007 as compared to 2003. That's a substantial increase in four years."

    http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...ay/645771.html

    ADHD Rates Rising Among Older Children

    http://add.about.com/b/2008/08/03/ad...r-children.htm

    UK

    uk flagThere were a record number of prescriptions last year for methylphenidate - of which Ritalin is the most common brand - at a cost of £10 million to the NHS. Although 90 per cent of the 359,100 prescriptions were dispensed to children - a 180-fold increase since 1991, when just 2,000 were issued - adults are now a fast-growing area.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...in-Nation.html

    In 1994 there were just 4,000 prescriptions for methylphenidate, 10 years later that figure had gone up to 359,000 - a 90-fold increase.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6071216.stm

    BLACK PEOPLE AND ADHD

    The graph on the right does show that black people have higher rates of ADHD than whites, Black people in America are not a homogenous people or interbred. There are many different ethnic black groups in Africa from which the population of the United States are descended. There is a lot of talk that black children are being over diagnosed with this condition, it could be true that because black children are being disruptive in school they are being labeled as having ADHD when they don't in order to get them out of the regular classroom and into special needs schools. Why black children are having trouble at school we don't know it could possibly be for the same reason why there are a disproportionately large number of black people in jail or for the same reason there are a disproportionately low number of black people in University.

    HISPANICS AND ADHD

    The rate of ADHD among Hispanics is considerably lower than whites and multiracial. This could be because the Hispanic community are racially more homogenous than them in that they are descended from a single ethnic groups (The Spanish). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

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    In my humble opinion, this has to be one of the most selective articles when it comes to use of facts that I've read in a long, long while --- without looking at much of it, it can essentially be deconstructed empirically in less than five minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarabergen View Post
    This web site contains a collection of evidence on the subject of spectrum disorders (Autism, ADHD) that points towards ethnic mixing being a cause of the increase we are experiencing.
    1) I haven't had the time to look at the links, but you quote evidence on ADHD diagnoses, but not on Autism diagnoses. The whole article simply mentions ADHD, but doesn't at all touch on the Autism; that is an unconvincing mode of argument.

    2) I would be careful when analysing ADHD diagnoses, simply because they are diagnosed as often as the common flu these days, and often misdiagnosed. There is a good possibility that parents of mixed-race children have a tendency to accept a first diagnosis, whilst parents of homogeneously-derived children are more prone to seek clarity, in which case a different diagnosis or indeed a full mis-diagnosis is applied.

    Example: Peoples who are ethnically European but a mix of Nordic European (example Norwegian) and Mediterranean European (example Italian) could have a higher chance of having ADHD than peoples of singular European ethnicity (example just - German, Nordic European).
    I have known a good deal of people diagnosed with disorders alongside this spectrum (whether rightfully, or wrongfully) and all of them were of a singular European ethnicity (German, Scottish, English, French --- but never a mix). Perhaps I don't know the whole pool, but I'm curious what they base this assumption on.

    I think the whole thing is a "cum hoc, ergo propter hoc" fallacy. If an increase in ethnic mixing comes at the same time as an increase in ADHD, how do we explain people with ADHD who can trace their lineage to one ethnicity for often several centuries?

    "This increase was from 7.8 percent in 2003 to 9.5 percent in 2007," she said. "When we project that to the American population, that means that a million more children were diagnosed with ADHD in 2007 as compared to 2003. That's a substantial increase in four years."
    What a surprise! The medication firms producing Ritalin and related subjects are all Jewish-owned. Whilst that constitutes no argument in itself, it should puzzle us at the very least.

    Many high-scale doctors, especially psychiatrists also have shares in pharmaceutical firms. That they'll be prone to prescribe something for a condition where it is thought to help than give a different diagnosis might well be possible.

    HISPANICS AND ADHD

    The rate of ADHD among Hispanics is considerably lower than whites and multiracial. This could be because the Hispanic community are racially more homogenous than them in that they are descended from a single ethnic groups (The Spanish). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic
    Excuse me, but: WTF? Hispanics are for a large part by definition Mestizos. Their whole being is --- with the exception of an upper-class full-white minority (which rarely leaves their countries), and with the exception of some fully Injun specimens, defined by being mixed race.

    Any article stating something so empirically untrue can be otherwise perfectly on spot, but will lose any credibility with me outright.
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    I also would question the assertion that ADD and ADHD are the same disorder. That hyperactivity will leave the individual less able to pay attention is an effect of the hyperactivity, it doesnt point necessarily to that the source of hyperactivity is an ADD, so one should really be careful with these diagnoses.

    Which wont happen though, as you pointed out correctly Sigurd, because there are after all some pharma major corps who earn quite some money with the medicaments.

    The phenomenon of disruptive children as an effect of them failing to grasp the teached stuff is also not a new phenomenon. Since Black people have considerably lower IQs, this isnt really surprising, even the mixed (often with white admixture) black in America only get into the 80-90 scales. They dont have ADHD, they are simply too stupid, get bored and then start to try getting attention (this way the Attention Deficite wasnt meant though ).
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