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    I cant understand Homophobia...

    This is a mentality I just cant seem to understand. I came online in 2002 and for the first time I was exposed to this culture of men being obsessed with how other men are gays or fags.

    Why are so many men obsessed with how other men are 'gay' or not? Growing up I never had that mentality. Only until coming online in 2002 did I ever realize this type of thing even existed.

    Ive been thinking about this for 8 years now and I just cant understand the mentality.

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    Well, I don't really care about gays. As long as they don't hurt anyone, physically or otherwise, and keep to themselves, they're okay in my book. Most fanatical homophobes (i.e. people who will refuse to sit in the same room with a gay dude) are probably insecure individuals who have something to hide. If a "fag" is being too colorful/fruity, or too much in people's face about his sexual orientation, than I have no problem with gay bashing, but if the fag keeps it to himself, and is normal in terms of his outward appearance, I have no problem with him. In short, I don't mind those that act like normal human beings, but I hate those who want to **** every masculine thing that walks, and make no effort to hide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest King View Post
    Well, I don't really care about gays. As long as they don't hurt anyone, physically or otherwise, and keep to themselves, they're okay in my book. Most fanatical homophobes (i.e. people who will refuse to sit in the same room with a gay dude) are probably insecure individuals who have something to hide. If a "fag" is being too colorful/fruity, or too much in people's face about his sexual orientation, than I have no problem with gay bashing, but if the fag keeps it to himself, and is normal in terms of his outward appearance, I have no problem with him. In short, I don't mind those that act like normal human beings, but I hate those who want to **** every masculine thing that walks, and make no effort to hide it.
    I dont even mean actual gay men. I constantly hear males always going on and on about men that arent gay being fags. It's all they ever think about is what males are gay or not.

    And they tend to really hate men that show a feminine side. Like Justin Bieber for example. I still dont understand why people hate that kid either.

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    It's all about the naturality of the topic.

    How is it not at odd ends with nature of men having sexual intercourse with each other when it concerns a sexual relationship?

    For the record I've known a variety of gay people in my lifetime and while some may be nice in character I still have my doubts or criticisms of them for a variety of reasons. [ Women homosexuals as well...]

    Many of them to me I've noticed suffer from a variety of psychological disorders. Maybe homosexuality is a side effect of specific psychological disorders......It's a debate of course the politically correct public wish to not have but there are a variety of dissenters like myself that have valid criticisms of the subject that go unheard because the way enforced tolerance has protruded it's place into modern society.

    [In the 1970's and 1980's there was a whole alienated group of psychologists that were ousted academically because of their academical papers regarding homosexuality as a mental defect due to their opinions not fitting the party line of tolerance and diversity.]

    [Such groups of psychologists then went underground intellectually where they have been since due to their heretical views on nature, psychology, and social dynamics going against the politically correct fray.]

    It wasn't until very long ago that homosexuality was defined as a psychological mental defect of deeply troubled people. That was the definition up until the 1950's or late 60's.

    Whether or not anybody here wishes to agree with me homosexuality I think should be discouraged amongst our own people for the simple fact that it harms reproduction when it concerns our already dwindling numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theiamania View Post
    This is a mentality I just cant seem to understand. I came online in 2002 and for the first time I was exposed to this culture of men being obsessed with how other men are gays or fags.

    Why are so many men obsessed with how other men are 'gay' or not? Growing up I never had that mentality. Only until coming online in 2002 did I ever realize this type of thing even existed.

    Ive been thinking about this for 8 years now and I just cant understand the mentality.
    I was exposed to this 'culture' in middle school. Anything to do with homosexuality was the default insult. 'Gay' was a synonym for 'stupid' and just about the most disrespectful thing you could call another guy. 'This is gay.' 'That is gay.' This was in 1999-2000, so this age group could be the men you are referring.

    The ones that still do it are either immature or gay themselves in the closet.

    Justin Beiber music videos promote miscegenation and are just more MTV crap. Other than that, insecure people will hate those more successful than themselves.

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    caledonian, so it looks like you see it as a protective instinct that males use to preserve the species?

    What confuses me is that I see men calling other men gay that arent gay. There seems to be a constant fear of homosexuality in the minds of a lot of men.

    Maybe they have a repressed feminine side that they try to avoid constantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theiamania View Post
    caledonian, so it looks like you see it as a protective instinct that males use to preserve the species?

    What confuses me is that I see men calling other men gay that arent gay. There seems to be a constant fear of homosexuality in the minds of a lot of men.

    Maybe they have a repressed feminine side that they try to avoid constantly.

    caledonian, so it looks like you see it as a protective instinct that males use to preserve the species?
    Emotionally and mentally isolated, alienated, or fragile people will turn towards a great deal of things to help cope themselves with existence in general as a stress reliever not to mention when it concerns finding some form of tangible existential security. Some do all of that by reverting to homosexuality.....

    What confuses me is that I see men calling other men gay that arent gay.

    There seems to be a constant fear of homosexuality in the minds of a lot of men.
    Describing another man as effeminate and not being masculine enough is the ultimate insult of men.

    Homosexual males lack masculinity and are effeminate thus probally why men use the term to insult each other as the highest form of defamation.

    Maybe they have a repressed feminine side that they try to avoid constantly.
    That sounds ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autosomal Viking View Post
    I was exposed to this 'culture' in middle school. Anything to do with homosexuality was the default insult. 'Gay' was a synonym for 'stupid.' 'This is gay.' 'That is gay.' This was in 1999-2000, so this age group could be the men you are referring.

    The ones that still do it are either immature or gay themselves in the closet.
    Yeah thats exactly what Im talking about. I hear it constantly now that Im aware of the mentality. And it's not just kids. I hear it from grown men of all ages. Everything is 'gay'. Or that guy is gay. Or hes a fag. I guess it is a male thing where they try to dominate the other male. Or theyre just trying to preserve their masculinity. Ive never thought like that so Im not sure the psychology behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theiamania View Post
    caledonian, so it looks like you see it as a protective instinct that males use to preserve the species?

    What confuses me is that I see men calling other men gay that arent gay. There seems to be a constant fear of homosexuality in the minds of a lot of men.

    Maybe they have a repressed feminine side that they try to avoid constantly.
    Autosomal Viking is right, it's just slang for "that's not cool/stupid", "you're not cool/stupid", etc...

    Ultimately homosexuality is something you either have or you don't. You can't turn a straight man gay, and you most certainly can't turn a gay man straight. It has a lot to do with the hormones that are present in the womb while the male fetus is developing. If there is some sort of imbalance, these problems will arise. Similar hormonal imbalances are responsible for other sexual disorders such as pedophilia, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    Emotionally and mentally isolated, alienated, or fragile people will turn towards a great deal of things to help cope themselves with existence in general as a stress reliever not to mention when it concerns finding some form of tangible existential security. Some do all of that by reverting to homosexuality.....
    But for some men it just happens. They grow up in a normal household, have normal friends at school, etc, etc, and they turn out gay. It's not all developed/learned behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest King View Post
    Autosomal Viking is right, it's just slang for "that's not cool/stupid", "you're not cool/stupid", etc...

    Ultimately homosexuality is something you either have or you don't. You can't turn a straight man gay, and you most certainly can't turn a gay man straight. It has a lot to do with the hormones that are present in the womb while the male fetus is developing. The same hormonal imbalance is responsible for other sexual disorders such as pedophilia, etc.

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    But for some men it just happens. They grow up in a normal household, have normal friends at school, etc, etc, and they turn out gay. It's not all developed/learned behavior.
    That's a repeated social myth. There is nothing in evidence that shows homosexuality as being genetical or hereditary.

    It's a learned behavior plain and simple.........

    But for some men it just happens. They grow up in a normal household, have normal friends at school, etc, etc, and they turn out gay. It's not all developed/learned behavior.
    Show me a homosexual gene structure and then I'll believe you.

    In natural prognosis of human behavior tell me why homosexuality persists and to what ends it facilitates.

    I can almost guarantee you that in any homosexual's life there was a life changing event or traumatic experience in their lives that heavily influenced them to be homosexual.

    Nobody is born homosexual and since nobody is born with inherent homosexuality that means it's a learned behavior that it would seem large portions of our population seem to be susceptible to.
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