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    Giving Your Spare Change to Homeless Beggars

    What is your opinion on this?

    When I was younger (late teens) I would do this all the time. One time I gave 10 dollars to a homeless black woman with 3 kids. She approached me in the middle of my school campus and begged me to help out her kids, she told me she had 3 additional kids somewhere else, which would make 6 kids in total. I gave her the money and felt really good about myself. When I came home that day, I felt exhilarated by my good deed and bragged about it to my mom, who rightfully castigated me for my stupidity. Every time I did this, I realized that I needed the change at a later time. One time I lost my train ticked and needed to buy a one-day pass for 2 dollars. I had no money on me. I decided to ask people to help me out, thinking they'd be glad to help out a young man in need. To my surprise, everybody I tried to talk to had the most hostile stare you could imagine written across their face. One man gave me a nickle, but that's about it. I felt like I would be pushed into a puddle, or onto the street if I continued to try to ask people for money. Nobody wanted to help me out, yet I would have helped them out in a heartbeat if they had asked me for help. I will never make that mistake again - to bring myself down to such an abject level, or to help an undeserving bag full of arsevomit.

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    The way the Swedish wellfare system is set up, in order for you to become homeless you have to really, really try. You have to make it your job and make yourself impossible for any help or interventions on behalf of the state, and ultimately the tax payer. A sliver of cooperation from your part would open up the door to a system that is set up, designed and thrilled to help people.

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    Regarding homeless beggars, I learned my attitude from my father: If they have two arms and legs, they are capable of working just like anyone else. If they are crippled, then you can give them some money. Homeless beggars that know where to beg can make many times minimum wage. Different countries have different ways of dealing with homelessness of course.

    Hard-working people do lose their jobs and lives, so a lot of beggars are in legitimately bad situations. I won't give able-bodied beggars money, for one thing I don't have money to give. But I will make one exception: In Florida it is very hot during the summertime, and I will give them a drink at a red light if I have extra in my car.

    One time as a kid on a road trip, I gave an extra fast food hamburger to a homeless man on the side of the road through the window and felt very proud of myself like you did. Money is one thing, food and drink are another. If they make a profit, they will be encouraged to keep begging and not working. Food and water just gets them by, so I think have a good policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
    The way the Swedish wellfare system is set up, in order for you to become homeless you have to really, really try. You have to make it your job and make yourself impossible for any help or interventions on behalf of the state, and ultimately the tax payer. A sliver of cooperation from your part would open up the door to a system that is set up, designed and thrilled to help people.
    I hear a lot of immigrants abuse this system?


    I used to give money all the time. Lately I stopped. It's mostly drunk, lazy gypsies today or organized criminals. Don't know which one's worse. The criminals are nicely dressed, polite, holding bunch of papers to show you they are legit for collecting money on behalf some sick child and gypsies on the other hand are a disgusting pack of rats who wouldn't think twice before stabbing you for not giving them money they begged for. Usually they try to spit on you or start throwing all sorts of curses and whatnot on you if you just silently walk past them. They usually employ kids to the the job (sometimes they resort to cutting a limb or two of their own child so it looks more real, or poke the eye out or something). When it comes to kids people usually give them money (it works!). However the parent of the kids usually sits in a nearby bar drinking whole day after-which he/she pays with the kids money. Or they simply take the money from the kids and hit them if they complain. What's interesting is that they usually beg using hunger as the tool but when you offer them food the tend to throw it back at you while doing the aforementioned actions (spiting, cursing,...).
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    Beggars in my area must apply for a "Pan-handling" permit. They are absolutely everywhere, and are aggressive. They actual shout at cars that stop near them.

    I was once followed from the entrance of a supermarket all the way to the back of the parking-lot by one...I had half a mind to show him my concealed piece. It made me incredibly nervous, as he was being very aggressive towards my girlfriend. I guess she looks liberal. Near the end of the ordeal he even got a bit racist towards us (of course he was a negro).

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    A couple years ago I took a walk at lunch and was in a great mood when a middle aged rough looking white guy came up to me and gave me a sob story about needing a bus ticket (blah blah blah). So as I was in a good mood I gave him a five. He then said "oh come on, give me more". Obviously I got enraged and told him he better get away from me very fast or I was going to take it back-he left real quick. I seriously considered pummeling the guy and probably would have if I was not on the clock. Hence no one gets anything from me and they get told to go straight to hell. Another time a guy in his early 20's asked me for money at a gas station and I gave him my default response. He got belligerent so I pulled out a wad and told him he could have it if he thought he could take it. He didn't accept the challenge.

    Don't get me wrong, there were many lean and bad times for me growing up, but if begging on the street is your best option, I think its time to walk in front of a bus or jump off the roof of a parking garage. Just my 2 cents.

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    I used to help all the time when I was in my 20's. Now that Im older I dont do it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haliaeetus View Post
    I hear a lot of immigrants abuse this system?
    Well basically the system is set up to be generous, and not take ethnic background into consideration. It's more an issue of them taking advantage of it to the fullest, and sending the bill to the tax payer. Certain benefits are certainly higher for refugees, their status also grants them extra benefits, but it's mostly how the system is set up that is the problem. Wellfare scams probably occur, but to which extent I could not say. For example you could look at gypsies who came here from Finland, Sweden allows for dual citizenships, so they get citizenships in both countries, then apply for wellfare from both countries (whilst holding residency in both countries somehow) which they then get. Is this a scam or a result of a naive system? We have older immigrants that come here, start to collect a pension, then go back to their home country and have their pensions collected by their children in Sweden and sent to them while they go live at home. Is that a scam or just using the system, it's hard to say. When you have such naive politicians that have as their primary priority to take care of people, they don't think about ways in which the system can potentially become abused by people who they see as unable to do wrong.

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    Begging was illegal in Norway, but then the "red-greens" (they are not very green at all) decided to change it so everyone could beg. After they removed the prohibiting we have seen waves of gypsys on our streets. They are agressive and annoying...

    I never give them money. When I was in Oslo I gave a homeless Norwegian my lunch, wasnt going to eat it anyways.

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    I'll help out one of our own people that is homeless but when it concerns foreigners of all kinds I refuse to help them in that they practically make a living out of begging.

    I'm not kidding with that statement when describing the area that I live in where there is the same homeless people looking for handouts in the downtown area almost daily.

    I myself was homeless six months straight in two different states in the year of 2009 where I lived off the streets in the worse possible way.

    I pulled myself out of being homeless all on my own. Why can't they also?
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