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    Question Are Cherokee, Apache, Etc, Different Than What Mexicans Are?

    Are Cherokee, Apache, etc, tribes, different than Mexicans/South Americans?

    I know they are listed separate, on the Census. There's a box for American Indians and a box for Mexicans/Latinos.

    Are Cherokee and American Indians, different (in terms of genetics and blood), than South Americans?

    I've heard sometimes that Indians and Mexicans hate each other, so I'm guessing they are different.

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    Today, there are few, if any, pure Amerindians in the United States. But there are some relatively pure Amerindians in Mexico and South America. In general, Amerindians in the US were more progressive than the ones elsewhere.

    To answer your question: yes the tribes had notable differences, and the modern mixed descendants of them are different, as well.

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    Many images of Amerindians in the US can be found here.

    Sioux man

    Apache Chief Geronimo (note strong jaw.)

    Chief Running Antelopeof the Lakota tribe

    Plains Amerindian

    Man of the Crow tribe

    Medicine Crow of the Crow tribe

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    Here are some relatively pure modern Amerindians from Central America.

    Mayan girls (Mexico)

    Mayan woman (Guatemala)

    Mayan woman (Guatemala)

    Aztec woman

    Embera man and woman (Panama)

    Kuna woman (Panama)

    Girl in Central America

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    Here is an example of a Mestizo (European + Amerindian)

    Mestizo women in northern Belize


    (I'll add more later, it is way too late for me to be posting anyway)

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    Cherokees & Apaches are different from one another. The Cherokees belong to the Silvid racial group (along with the other eastern tribes of North America) & the Iroquoian linguistic group. The Apache & Navajo are Pueblid racially, linguistically they are Na-Dene. Many Mountain (Western) tribes of the US beong to the Uto-Aztecan language group like the Utes & Shoshone as do several goups in Mexico like the Aztecs.

    As for Mexicans & US Indians, Mexicans have undergone an Hispanicization over the last 500 years & many have some Spanish blood. The policy in Mexico was assimilation, there were no reservations. The most densely part of Mexico is the central & southern portions, this was true even in 1520, the north was sparcely populated even in 1848. The north was heavily settled from the central part of Mexico in the last 150 years. Also many Mexicans have some African blood, usually around, 200 years ago when Mexico became independent 10% of all Mexicans were Mulattos or Negroes, now they have mainly disappeared.

    It is true that Mexicans hate Indians in the US West & Southwest. They are not too fond of Indians in Mexico either. Around 1900 the Yaqui tribe fled the Mexican Army & settled in Arizona, they were given federal recognition as a tribe in the 1970s. As recently as 1900 over 1/2 of all Mexicans were classified as Indian, it was 35% in 1960, today less then 10%. I think the primary detail in classifying Mexicans as either Indian or Mestizo depends on mother tongue or wether they lived in rural villages or in urban areas, which accounts for why their percentage of Mexico's population has dropped so substantially.

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    Danny Trejo is the best example of a Mexican Indian I can think of.






    This is how I percieve the average North American Indian:



    There's quite a difference, although both are probably mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    There's quite a difference, although both are probably mixed.
    They both show significant European admixture. Both are of Hispanic descent, so both probably have strong Spanish admixtures.

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    North American Indians tend to be significantly taller than Mesoamerican Indians, isn't this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest Kingsley View Post
    North American Indians tend to be significantly taller than Mesoamerican Indians, isn't this true?
    I don't think that true at all, at least not in my experience. Going to the Cherokee reservation i observed the vast majority of Native Americans to be on the short and chubby side. Very similar to Mexicans in a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Danny Trejo is the best example of a Mexican Indian I can think of.






    This is how I percieve the average North American Indian:



    There's quite a difference, although both are probably mixed.
    I wonder where those green eyes came from.

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    The top two are Lagid and Andid, respectively.




    Quote Originally Posted by Berlichingen View Post
    I wonder where those green eyes came from.
    Europoid admixture, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlichingen View Post
    I wonder where those green eyes came from.
    My 9th grade Spanish teacher (who was Mexican) said that green eyes in Mexico were from the French who invaded Mexico in the 1860s. I'm not vouching for the validity of this claim, just saying that many Mexicans believe it.

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