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    @ hilderinc
    Thanks and I will check out the anthropology section.

    Thanks to everyone who responded, your clearing things up for me.

    @ wehrwolf jack
    Shouldn't you be on a KKK forum somewhere? Explain to me how a women with a strong jaw line is in a hierarchy of nature. I would start questioning if they were of the male species. On a man, it's very attractive. On a woman not so much! So because my hair is of the Golden/strawberry blond variety you're suddenly superior to me?

    You sound like you have little genital syndrome. It's people like you who ruin Germanic history. It's like it can't be talked about without someone assuming you're a racist. You remind me of the short guy who always tries to beef up and fight people, like they have something to prove; or the little chiuaua who barks excessively to try and show there a big tough dog, when really there just a tiny speck.

    BTW if we descend from Neanderthals, you're theory on a blond superiority would be wrong as DNA tests proved them to be of the red headed variety. No one is superior to anyone because of their race or hair colour http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cientists.html

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    It's not just Germanics; its whites in general. If someone has black hair, they are assumed to have non-White ancestry. This is probably the main reason many regard Italians as non-white at times.

    It is probably why the Irish weren't considered white at one time, they probably showed darker hair color beside blonde.

    It may sound bad, but thats how some people feel. They think of most pure whites as being blonde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boudicca View Post
    @ wehrwolf jack
    Shouldn't you be on a KKK forum somewhere?
    shouldn't you be getting brainwashed by MTV? Nordicism isn't the as sick of an idea as the stuff going through your head...

    Quote Originally Posted by boudicca View Post
    Explain to me how a women with a strong jaw line is in a hierarchy of nature.
    I knew a Polish girl who thought German girls were ugly because they had strong jaw lines. Most female models are chosen for a stronger jawline than the pinhead girls.

    So because my hair is of the Golden/strawberry blond variety you're suddenly superior to me?
    no, you're missing the point. Himmler was a Nordicist and look at him. you have your place above brunettes in idealistic hair coloring, but below platinum blondes. it's one of many traits that fit the post-human angelic ideal that reflect the inner soul of a human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest King View Post
    Pure Germanics could have blond hair, red hair, brown hair, etc, etc. It is true that most have medium-brown to blond hair, but dark-brown to black hair is certainly not impossible.
    Indeed. Since it would be absurd to assume that our ancestors experienced full depigmentation, it would also be absurd to assume that only blonde hair could spring from such a source. In fact, it is possible for four grandparents of medium-blonde hair to have a grand-child of brown hair, such is only natural.

    The whole red-hair thing is unrelated; the red/non-red scale is a question of one's level of Pheomelanine, whilst the blonde/brown scale is a question of one's level of Eumelanine. Different types of melanine, different effects; one could have intermediate levels of eumelanine and high levels of pheomelanine and come out a shining auburn.

    Either way, my most self-quoted piece, yet again, including the addendum I added last time around.


    Genetics in a nutshell.


    Eye pigment is made up out of 0-6 dominant genes. The parents can pass on the sum of both of their dominant genes at maximum:

    0 - light blue; 1 - grey-blue; 2 grey/blue-green; 3 - green to hazel; 4 - medium brown; 5 - dark brown; 6 - black.

    Hance two parents with blue-green eyes could have children that have an eye color between light blue and medium brown.

    Hair pigment is mainly made up of Melanine. There you have Eumelanine and Pheomelanine, but it is enough to concentrate on Eumelanine since it answers the question.

    Assume for the sake of it, that half of the genes determining hair colour come from the mother and father and that each of them pass on 4 genes...now let's use "h" for light pigment and "H" for dark pigment.

    hhhhhhhh - white blonde
    HHHHHHHH - black

    Now assuming that both parents are dark blonde (HHHhhhhh - HHHhhhhh) - [which could well be possible, if their parents were both middle-blonde then they have a good chance to have anything up to light brown[ - all combinations between white blonde (hhhhhhhh) and darkish medium brown (HHHHHHhh) become possible.

    In a way this could work the other way round as well. I will use a family example to highlight this, in fact that is what happened with the sister of my father: Grandmother, dark brown (HHHHHHhh) + Grandfather, light brown (HHHHhhhh) = Aunt, medium blonde (HHhhhhhh)

    Hence, it becomes possible that the children of two blonde, blue-eyed parents can indeed be brown-eyed and brown-haired. Now even assuming that all of their ancestors were of pure Nordid phenotype (whose typical pigmentation is assumed to be medium blonde), so will the children be of pure Nordid phenotype (there are no other racial influences for them) - since, even though the children will have "wrong" pigment, the facial and bodily features will be manifestly Nordid.

    Anything else is a simplification of genetics to push an agenda.
    Since the vast majority of blond-haired people don't tend to be white-blonde but generally medium-blonde such is possible in as little as two generations even if all four grandparents were medium-blonde. With two dark-blonde parents it is possible in one generation.

    The complete converse - with all four grand-parents being dark brown (HHHHHHhh) and both parents being light-brown (HHHHhhhh) actually makes it theoretically possible for the child to be absolute über-recessive white-blonde (hhhhhhhh). The chances for this to happen are fairly slim, as "in doubt" dominance prevails, but they are mathematically possible even if statistically comparedly rare.
    Hope that helped answer your question a little. For the sub-racial question as to why we have Neolithic (Atlantonordoid spectrum) and Cro-Magnid specimens amongst our population; that is more complex, but in essence even skull findings would dictate that since IE ethnogenesis, and already before the period in which to put Germanic ethnogenesis, both strains existed within the population that would later result in Germanics.
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    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechFin View Post
    It is probably why the Irish weren't considered white at one time, they probably showed darker hair color beside blonde.
    That isn't why at all... it was due to slandering/propaganda by the nation which they had long been in conflict with, right to the East. I'm sure you know which one. That same propaganda continued itself throughout the Anglo oriented world for a long time.

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    That only blondes can be considered pure European is way too far fetched.

    However I used to think the same thing and it made me depressed as Helheim because it made me feel like not a pure white sometimes becuase of having dark hair colour.

    Believe me I have been dealing with the same issue, and there is still part of me that does, but I just have to tell myself that evidence has proven that not to be true at all.

    In reality though whether you're blonde or not doesn't mean jack when it comes to race and racial identity.

    Take for example I have dark hair, so does most of my family, and I can prove that were very white and very Germanic. Even my ancestors who are 100% German had dark hair. We are NOT a product of racial mixing, I can guarantee.

    If you can trace your ancestry to Germanic roots, you are Germanic, irregardless of what colour hair you have. Just because you don't have fair hair like most of your kinsmen doesn't mean that you are not part of that ethnicity. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boudicca View Post
    Why Are Only Blondes Considered Pure Germanics?
    They're not and many blondes aren't Germanic.

    I saw a thread on here about racial purity and a lot of people replied that a pure Germanic would have blonde hair and blue eyes.
    You'll see all kinds of threads with all kinds of opinions in them. Not all opinions, news sources, claims or articles are necessarily accurate.

    Which is stupid because that isn't always the case.
    That's right.

    As for the bickering about who wins first prize at the Genetics and Beauty Farmyard Fair, it's sooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by wehrwolf jack View Post
    All shades of mankind have a value, however blonde mixed with the pure Nordid features (height, strong jaw, blue eyes, etc.) may be a sign of the highest evolved form of human. That, or the first humans were of this coloring and all other coloring is a sign of a percent of admixture. Just because one has brown eyes, doesn't mean they have to try to disprove this truth in nature. How annoying is that when people try to deny the heirarchy just because they aren't perfect themselves! It reminds me of people defending circumcision just because they are cut. The blonde coloring is a eugenics ideal that can be bred in all Europeans through racial hygiene.
    And blonde, blue-eyed people áre in any case "perfect" and "pure"?

    My own mother could be considered a prototype "aryan" by her morphology, facial characteristics and pigmentation, being Dalofaelid/Nordid. However, she has some grandparents who were rather dark pigmented and also grandparents who were more in the Alpinid direction morphology-wise.

    So what does it actually say? In my opinion, when a person talks about being "pure" and such, he or she just doesn't know much about genealogy, genepools, recombinations of traits, etc.

    And when was this time when the Germanic population was exclusively blonde? Take for example the Frisians, they are said to be one of the blondest Germanics. When were they exclusively blonde? Certainly not 500 years ago, because f.e. Frisian folk hero Grutte Pier, who was born around 1480 is documented to had a dark complexion, a big black beard, etc. Vikings also were said to be predominantly red-haired and some brown and even black-haired. It's even in the names of some...

    I know i sound like a jealous non-blonde person, but come on, we are grown people who continue to talk on and on and on about the coloration of ones hair and which is superior to the other Do you think our ancestors were bickering on about such things? Do you think the vikings were having deep feelings of insecurity because one had lighter hair than theirs? Come on people...

    No wonder our lands are being overtaken by foreigners, our women seduced by them and our men scared by them. We've become some pansies who need to show our superiority by saying online we are more "pure" and "higher in the hierarchy" than the next man. That is essentially what it comes down to.

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    As I've said many a time before, hair colour doesn't matter. I have dark blonde hair (most would call it "mouse brown"). My ex has dark hair and dark eyes, yet tracing his family line, he is Germanic. My Dutch friend has dark hair and dark eyes, yet his family line is Germanic and so on.

    The only thing that should matter to anyone is skin colour. If they're white, why should their hair colour or eye colour matter? It shouldn't. "Pure" Germanics don't exist, that much is freakin' obvious. So much racial mixing has gone on that there's no such thing as a "pure" anything anymore. My biological Mother had dark hair and dark eyes, yet her ancestry was Germanic too.

    Don't be so damn picky. It's stupid and annoying.

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    There are plenty brown-haired and red-haired Germanic people. For myself, in what's left of my hair, I have light brown hair mixed with sort of darkish blond hair, and blond eyebrows, and my beard when I grew it used to be a mix of blond and dark ginger, but now is mostly grey, (though the moustache is still mostly blond if I grow it; my moustache is the same colour as my eyebrows.)

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