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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    That's a great list, Cally! Are you quite sure you've mentioned everything?

    I must say though, when I was your age my views on women used to change almost by the week!!!

    Whenever I'd had a bad experience with the more promiscuous type I used to swear I'd only go for the chaste ones in future, but then after a while with the virtuous ones I was soon back chasing the tarts again

    I'm not sure most men know exactly what they do want, TBQH, and would say the same probably applies to women as well
    I'm not sure.......

    I'll probally add more to my list eventually later on.
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    I don't understand men who expect women to not be competitive, there are a lot of opportunities out there for better than average men. I see it as a problem if a guy doesn't have any direction in life and is struggling to survive, because I want to have children and I want a comfortable life. I'm not sure its all that unattractive to me if he's my age, but a grown man (20 or older) who can't even support HIMSELF well is a serious red flag. Why would I waste my time with some average guy, who is lazy, uncompetitive, cynical, and doesn't give a damn when I could attract a more conscientious one? *shrugs* Anyone who has the attitude of Caledonian has no one to blame but themselves.
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    So Caledonian, in short you find the vast majority of modern Western women to be a turnoff? I must say I find myself agreeing with you. Thanks feminism!

    Though I don't agree with marrying foreigners, I suppose I can relate to the men who seek marriage outside of the West in search of a woman who is more conservative, feminine, family-oriented, less materialistic, less sexually promiscuous, and overall better wife/mother material than the majority of Western females today. My experience with Western women has been pretty terrible; of all the women I've met, dated, or been in a relationship with, I think I can count about 2 that I think would make an excellent wife/mother. Once more, thanks feminism!

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    Heres my top 5:

    1. Being too independent. Dont get me wrong, being independent is a good thing, but theres a limit. Let me be the man
    2. poor personal hygiene (should go without saying).
    3. being over-weight.
    4. Too much make up. I consider myself lucky with this one; my ex's and my current girlfriend never wears it
    5. Being slutty in general.

    I know said my top 5, but i just thought of another one that bothers me

    6. Texting while we're at dinner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    Whenever I'd had a bad experience with the more promiscuous type I used to swear I'd only go for the chaste ones in future, but then after a while with the virtuous ones I was soon back chasing the tarts again
    Sounds like me a few years ago. Finding an overly promiscuous or an overly conservative one is easy, the hard part is finding the woman who's a happy balance of the two. Such a thing reminds me of the quest to find the Holy Grail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    Why would I waste my time with some average guy, who is lazy, uncompetitive, cynical, and doesn't give a damn when I could attract a more conscientious one? *shrugs*
    I don't know how it is your end, but here someone electing to enter university will typically never finish before he is 25; with postgraduate study usually at least 28 (I'm aiming for 24 and 26, but that's not the average).

    You said yourself that your man should ideally earn $65,000 or the equivalent of living standard (here that'd be only about 70% of that for the same living standard) in the respective country.

    The only way a man will typically be able to achieve this is: A) sheer luck (but I assume you're not looking for a gambling personality) or B) having a degree. The latter will usually mean the man *not* able to support himself at around age 20 beyond a minimum, as most money will come from scholarships and/or parental contribution.

    This also applies for the types as Caledonian. I find he is being overly bitter and somewhat cynical about the opposite sex at times, but in essence he's already doing the best to support himself AND further himself by both having a reasonable-paying job (recycling plant) whilst at the same time being a full-time student, I can see where it is frustrating though if ladies don't tend to see the daily effort (work & study) in him but only the outcome (money).

    So that's what I end up telling some ladies who have an interest in seeing me - if they're looking for me, they'll have to wait until I can fully support a family, as I'm not quitting my studies, also in the knowledge that my ability to support a family will be greater and better after earning my degree than if I dropped out and went into a warehouse tomorrow. They get informed the monetary and social benefits happen in the long run rather than on demand right now, usually they're accepting of it, knowing and sensing I'm cut out for higher honours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    I don't understand men who expect women to not be competitive, there are a lot of opportunities out there for better than average men. I see it as a problem if a guy doesn't have any direction in life and is struggling to survive, because I want to have children and I want a comfortable life. I'm not sure its all that unattractive to me if he's my age, but a grown man (20 or older) who can't even support HIMSELF well is a serious red flag. Why would I waste my time with some average guy, who is lazy, uncompetitive, cynical, and doesn't give a damn when I could attract a more conscientious one? *shrugs* Anyone who has the attitude of Caledonian has no one to blame but themselves.
    I don't understand men who expect women to not be competitive,
    Women are being competitive? They are just being materialistic and shallow when it concerns the men they have company with amongst their damning judgemental expectations of everything anymore.

    Notice that unlike women men do not judge women based upon their career, job, or income for the most part.

    It's funny how women ask for equality but then when it concerns how they judge men they have no problem with having inequal apprehensions about them.


    there are a lot of opportunities out there for better than average men.


    That's the problem with women these days......All of them think they are entitled to the best of everything leaving no room for a large majority of men who are hard working particularly average individuals.

    Women nowadays expect that the entire world be set at their feet where if any man cannot they are deemed worthless in being thrown under a train rail.

    Such men don't even get credit trying to improve their lives because at the end of the day it's all about the money, spoils, status, influence, and property that they have to which they are judged by women alone.

    Feisty your exactly like just about every other type of woman I have ever met in my life. It's really not that surprising at all.

    Of course let's not forget about how western civilization now currently is going bankrupt in vast amounts of many nations with increased unemployment where white males in general are being taken out of the workforce by all the minorities that are put in line before them through mandated affirmative action government policies.

    Where is the empathy of women for men these days?

    Oh, that's right, it's completely lacking.....nevermind.

    Back in the ancient past where real women once existed such women would empathize with their men in not being afraid to struggle along side them. I forget that such real women hardly exist anymore in today's society.

    I see it as a problem if a guy doesn't have any direction in life and is struggling to survive,
    Just because a man is struggling doesn't always mean that he lacks direction.

    Believe it or not but sometimes men are just unlucky.

    because I want to have children and I want a comfortable life.
    Yes with women, it's all about their security and comfort!

    It's always about them!

    Of course with that, to hell with the aspirations, problems, and desires of men!

    but a grown man (20 or older) who can't even support HIMSELF well is a serious red flag.
    Yeah I forget in this society anybody that struggles or has a hard time surviving just practically brings it all upon themselves.... [ rolls eyes]


    Why would I waste my time with some average guy, who is lazy, uncompetitive, cynical, and doesn't give a damn when I could attract a more conscientious one?
    I work sixty hours a week babe. You can go to hell calling me lazy or uncompetitive.

    when I could attract a more conscientious one?
    And by conscientious you mean one that has alot more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    [...]there are a lot of opportunities out there for better than average men. I see it as a problem if a guy doesn't have any direction in life and is struggling to survive, because I want to have children and I want a comfortable life.

    [...]

    Why would I waste my time with some average guy, who is lazy, uncompetitive, cynical, and doesn't give a damn when I could attract a more conscientious one? *shrugs*
    So this is your view of the average Germanic man? Really?

    The average Germanic man is, in my point of view, a very good man with his heart in the right place, a man who is intelligent and doesn't fear to work hard to provide for and protect his family. If he does have a job at a warehouse and doesn't make as much money as a some other men - so what? As long as he and his family are happy with each other and are okay with what they have, then nothing else should matter.
    Why search for material wealth that you don't even need, when you can look for happiness and love instead? Or is material wealth the same as happiness and love for you? You would probably be surprised to know how little you really need to be able to live a good life still, don't let this modern society fool you.

    And, being an average Germanic man is NOT the same thing as being "lazy, uncompetetive, cynical" or someone who "doesn't give a damn, who doesn't have any direction in life and is struggeling to survive".
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    Turnoffs

    The following is a list of turnoffs:

    1. Obesity
    2. Lack of cleanliness
    3. Ignorance
    4. Lack of confidence
    5. Lack of civility
    6. Tattoos
    7. Drug/alcohol abuse
    8. Lack of concern for appearance
    9. Lack of discipline
    10. Witches, Bitches, Crazy Women

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    I didn't say that I would consider a full time student who is recieving aid from his family unconscientious but I'm going to go with the stereotype here and say that most average guys with average looks, lives, and smarts are very unpleasant to be around. They have no love for life, and the relationship is boring and difficult because they don't want to do much, just want a warm female body. There are men from average backgrounds who do make the relationship interesting and believe the sky's the limit but they're quite rare. I just don't think I can stand one more long conversation about their past "bipolar psycho" gfs, baseball, the job market, computers, or other babble. Of course I know its important to take interest in the other person, and I always do very passionately but average guys are just totally ignorant to my needs. I'm quite imaginative, extremely honest, emotionally intense, and sweet. Most average people can't relate to the super creative person with a lot of ideas and some people dislike honesty and wholesomeness because it foils their poor character traits. Most people also misunderstand my intense emotions.

    I hate people who don't move on in a milisecond, because that's just the way my personality is, I feel dragged down if the man is sluggish or defeatist about working out his own problems and I feel that the man should be a little more emotionally stable and forward thinking than I am, because that's the nature of things.


    I also despize "smart asses" who are told by someone that they're a genius but don't really have an accomplishment to show for it even more than your average joe.

    Someone who is past the age of 20 should be somewhat financially independant even if they recieve help from parents or pell grants, that's just my opinion. Someone who is surviving on scholarships is supporting themselves, because they won them for their smarts or talents. IMO, not being able to graduate from 4-year until you are 25 is just preposterous, I don't see how anyone could be so unproductive, unless they've served in the military or had to deal with some kind of crisis in their family.

    Its not about money, its about class, though the stability and security of a man's job is something I would have to take into consideration when getting serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    Someone who is past the age of 20 should be somewhat financially independant even if they recieve help from parents or pell grants, that's just my opinion. Someone who is surviving on scholarships is supporting themselves, because they won them for their smarts or talents. IMO, not being able to graduate from 4-year until you are 25 is just preposterous, I don't see how anyone could be so unproductive, unless they've served in the military or had to deal with some kind of crisis in their family.

    Its not about money, its about class, though the stability and security of a man's job is something I would have to take into consideration when getting serious.
    I don't know if you know how the German education system works, but they only recently adopted the Bachelor Master system, and other types of degrees typically take longer to achieve. Add to that the fact that until recently German men were forced into conscription, and you will understand why many men are older by the time they graduate there.

    But in the end, I don't know why many men in this thread are upset by what a teenager has to say :/. They don't even know you.


    Edit: Oh yeah. Turn offs: Fat, Ugly, Stupid, Lazy, Annoying. Annoying is kind of all encompassing. Lol.

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