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    English History (According to "Woden's Folk")

    I've just been reading a couple of their pamphlets and this one struck me as being particularly interesting ...



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    Interesting!


    It was always my impression that this war is a spiritual war, a war that we only can win with our gods on our side and the tools and weapons they gave us.

    Without all this, we stand naked and bare handed against an army of demon servants well versed in the use of their weapons.
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    Aller Sturm nimmt nichts, weil dein Wurzelgriff zu stark ist
    und endet meine Frist, weiss ich dass du noch da bist
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    Yes I totally agree with you there, velvet!

    Only a spiritual revival can save us at this late stage, and this may just come about when the materialistic era comes to an end, as it's currently showing every sign of doing

    Of course, even once our present-day "religion" of consumerism is dead, there's still the huge obstacle to overcome of making English (and other) folk aware of their true heritage but they will at least be more receptive to the message as they strive for something to fill the void in their lives.

    Let us hope that the Wyrd being woven for us is a favourable one!

    Meantime, here's another Woden's Folk leaflet ...

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    England is called after the ancient Germanic God known to us as Ing; we still say "Ing-land"
    This sounds like a somewhat convenient correlation. Do they reject the common understanding that England takes it's name from the Angles, old English Engla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degenhard
    This sounds like a somewhat convenient correlation. Do they reject the common understanding that England takes it's name from the Angles, old English Engla?
    Which wouldnt be a contradiction anyway.

    Ingveonics are all Sea-Germanics, Jutes and Saxons alike, the Angles are a people from Jutland.

    Have a look here


    The vocal shift from I to A isnt that uncommon.
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    I must confess, this is the first I'd heard about “Ing” being the original source of the word England.

    It could be due to a vocal shift as you say, velvet, but Woden's Folk seem to think that Ing was a Heathen God and refer to him as the divine ancestor of the English. Like Degenhard, I'm not too sure I go along with this but they're making a big deal of it and there's more info about him on the final side of the 2 pamphlets to be scanned …


    I made a search for references to the Stone Of Ing that they refer to in the bottom right box and it led me to the Woden's Folk website, but this is the only place on the Web that mentions it (as far as I'm aware) so they seem to be going out on a limb with this idea. Anyway, here's the link …


    I have a pretty open mind on all this and always willing to consider new claims and theories about our ancient ancestors, which at least make for interesting reading if nothing else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    I must confess, this is the first I'd heard about “Ing” being the original source of the word England.

    It could be due to a vocal shift as you say, velvet, but Woden's Folk seem to think that Ing was a Heathen God and refer to him as the divine ancestor of the English. Like Degenhard, I'm not too sure I go along with this but they're making a big deal of it and there's more info about him on the final side of the 2 pamphlets to be scanned …
    I would have to say I am erring on the side of natural course. It seems within English nationalism the loudest voice wins out, unfortunately.

    I will say that I'd prefer a Witan to be formed and representatives of all the English groups - indeed, ALL English nationalists to attend - and have us all thrash out the ultimate unified goal with which to work towards.

    There are too many differing versions of English nationalism which divide and weaken our destiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson
    I must confess, this is the first I'd heard about “Ing” being the original source of the word England.
    From an etymological viewpoint it would even make more sense than to derive England from Angles, but you're right, it's not a widespread view.

    Then again, when you consider the mainland myths and that the tribes of the north derived their names from Ingvaz/Ing/Yngvy, Ermnaz/Irmin/Ermin and Istvaz (sons of Tiuz/Woden?), and take into consideration that the Angles were an Ingveonic folk, it's not completely out of the picture. Of course they would take their myths with them when they settle over to Britain, and here the Angles are a speciality in history too, because the entire tribe resettled.


    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson
    It could be due to a vocal shift as you say, velvet, but Woden's Folk seem to think that Ing was a Heathen God and refer to him as the divine ancestor of the English.
    This too is consistent with actual Germanic lore. The ancestor of a folk, a tribe, the first king is a son of the main god (Tiuz/Woden), or more likely, as the important first king who defined the lose tribe first as a folk (as identity giving figure), through mystification are attributed to divine descent.


    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson
    I made a search for references to the Stone Of Ing that they refer to in the bottom right box and it led me to the Woden's Folk website, but this is the only place on the Web that mentions it (as far as I'm aware) so they seem to be going out on a limb with this idea.
    You might have more luck with searching for the Legend of Cuthman. Sure, it seems like a bit unorthodox interpretation, but it certainly wouldnt be the first pre- or un-christian artefact being reinterpreted as a christian one and built into a church. In one source it said the stone was already used as altar stone in a temple before the church was built on the same site and the stone from then on used as step, most likely to move the former Heathens to continue visit the church. Grimm's and Golther's detailed studies are full of such examples. And it's neither uncommon that Heathen "gods" (ancestors in this case) become christian saints, this is a rather common pattern actually specially when these gods actually were part of the ancestor cult, because these were much harder to rot out than the heavenly gods.
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    I suppose 'Angle' or 'Angeln' could be derived from 'Ing'.

    I find Woden's Folk to be one of the most interesting aspects within English nationalism. I find the very obvious connection between 'The Hooded Man' prophecy and the mythology created specifically for the 'Robin of Sherwood' TV series a little odd, can anyone clarify that particular aspect.

    The Hooded Man Prophecy

    In the Days of the Lion, spawned of the Evil Brood, The Hooded Man shall come to the forest. There he will meet with Herne the Hunter – Lord of the Trees – to be his Son and do his bidding. The Power of Light and the Power of Darkness were strong within him. And the guilty shall tremble!

    The 'Robin Of Sherwood' mythos

    In the days of the Lion, spawned of the Devil’s brood, the Hooded Man shall come to the forest. There he will meet Herne the Hunter, Lord of the Trees, to be his son and do his bidding. The Powers of Light and Darkness shall be strong within him. And the guilty shall tremble.

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    English means Angles, from Angln in Denmark. Archeological evidence and written evidence supports it. I collect books on English history.

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