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    I'm a bit of a Russophile myself, actually. I'm really into Russian folk music, their classical music as well, and they make very good movies. The Russians I know are usually more realistic and less PC than people in "the West". Sadly, that no-bullshit attitude is lacking in Sweden.

    In general, Germanics are much closer related to the Eastern Slavs than to "half-white" southerners like the Sicilians or Portuguese.

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    Even though East German land was only allocated to the Poles (and not directly stolen) they should cooperate with Germans and help them to get back their home!
    Well, didn't Gorbachev and the Soviet Union offer to give back East Prussia to the Germans? If I remember right, it was Germany that refused to have it. Blame it on the US and the BRD government, I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post

    Well, didn't Gorbachev and the Soviet Union offer to give back East Prussia to the Germans?
    Yes, for 50 billion dollars.
    That is like you steal your neighbor's car in a contraversial and after 2 years you offer him to buy it from you for 30 000.

    But indeed, if the BRD government would have loved their country, they probably would have bought it...

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    The German border situation is a tough one, since almost every factor is working against Germany's reclamation of those lands. The areas are populated with Poles, who want to remain part of Poland. And the nation Poland, being the regional vassal of the USA, can afford to antagonize Germany as much as they like. Neither does Germany want to take care of the million Poles that come with the land. Frankly, I can't see German-Polish relations ever improving in the near future.

    Russia was willing to sell East Prussia, as Frimodighet said. The Germans had their shot at getting back Köningsberg in 1990, but the BRD government refused it. And that was it. Now, that chance is gone, since Russia and the USA are beginning to antagonize each other again (and Medvedev has promised to station nuclear missiles in East Prussia).

    Quote Originally Posted by Freja_se View Post
    Yes, but they were not doing the Jews and Zionists who hate white Europeans a favour..and they let them know it. They would much rather see Europe turn into Eurabia as soon as possible.
    Indeed. And now Sweden has a huge influx of Muslim "refugees", who are here because the Serbs defended their civilians in Kosovo against these child-raping Muslim terrorists. These "refugees" have already turned Malmö into a disgusting sewer. You'd think they want to go back home since Kosovo is theirs now, but it's much more fun to live on eternal welfare in Sweden...

    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    I'm a bit of a Russophile myself, actually. I'm really into Russian folk music, their classical music as well, and they make very good movies.
    You forgot that Russia makes the best off-road cars as well (I drive one myself). Their manual cars are robust, tough, and in every way superior to that electronic crap that breaks down after only a few years. Sometimes, I suspect those girly ultra-modern cars are designed to falter and die after a certain timespan, so the owner has to buy a new one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Even though East German land was only allocated to the Poles (and not directly stolen) they should cooperate with Germans and help them to get back their home!
    Wishful thinking, this is never going to happen. Why should the Poles do something like this? They are still bitching and whining about anything related to Germany. Just remember their polemical and exaggerated reactions to our BdV (Bund der Vertriebenen = "Alliance of the Deported"). Our relations to Poland are only good on the surface. Our two peoples simply don't get along with each other and I don't think this will ever change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    Well, didn't Gorbachev and the Soviet Union offer to give back East Prussia to the Germans? If I remember right, it was Germany that refused to have it. Blame it on the US and the BRD government, I guess...
    Yes, it's unbelievable they refused the offer. At the same time, these hypocrites told us it was one of the main conditions for reunification that Germany forgo her former Eastern parts, betraying us all and in particular all former East inhabitants who were still hoping to get their homelands back. What a disappointment!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Yes, for 50 million dollars.
    That is like you steal your neighbor's car in a contraversial and after 2 years you offer him to buy it from you for 30 000.

    But indeed, if the BRD government would have loved their country, they probably would have bought it...
    Oh come on, what is 50 million dollars for Germany? Peanuts! We could have paid this easily. In this case I would have swallowed down my pride to get my former land back. But as you said, they don't love their country. Now it's too late to do anything about it. Thanks a lot Kohl and Genscher and the whole rotten vermin of you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germaid View Post
    Our two peoples simply don't get along with each other and I don't think this will ever change.
    Still I don't see it coming to war as the German population is shrinking and being replaced by Turks who have no claim on the Eastern lands (or any).

    I think Germany's best bet is to economically dominate Poland and just resettle. The border is open and land for sale at a cheep rate. I know buying back what you consider your own land would be a hard pill to swallow but it would not be overly costly and a mass movement of private individuals could achieve a lot that way in a generation. Then you could elect local German government and move from there.

    Its very unfortunate that there is that bad blood.

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    You're right, this seems to be the only way, one of the few advantages the EU has to offer. Our two countries are not openly hostile, but our relationship is a purely pragmatic and economic one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germaid View Post
    Oh come on, what is 50 million dollars for Germany? Peanuts!
    Sorry, I meant 50 BILLION dollars.
    Is that peanuts?

    And it was only the Königsberg region...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Sorry, I meant 50 BILLION dollars.
    Is that peanuts?

    And it was only the Königsberg region...
    Thats not a bad price for a region with a historic city and coast. Also it is a start on a long road. We spend more than that in Britain over ten years on African aid.

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    Even 50 billions are affordable. There is even more available for Greece now, it shows nicely where the priorities are set. Other countries first and our interests are spurned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgard View Post
    Thats not a bad price for a region with a historic city and coast. Also it is a start on a long road. We spend more than that in Britain over ten years on African aid.

    True. The BRD should have invested.
    But I still think that the apologies should not go into one direction only. All sides were cruel.

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