Results 1 to 2 of 2

Thread: The Only Freedom We Have in the West is the Freedom to Go Shopping: Dr. Fredrick Toben

  1. #1
    Senior Member Roderic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Online
    Monday, May 27th, 2019 @ 06:09 AM
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    The Only Freedom We Have in the West is the Freedom to Go Shopping: Dr. Fredrick Toben

    Dr. Fredrick Toben, academician, author and political analyst.

    He has scientifically denied Holocaust and paid the cost: five times in prison in five countries.

    Excelent interview.

    "The Iranian people are idealists and this brings them closer to the German mindset that is also idealistic as opposed to the materialistic-based Anglo-American-Zionist international predatory financial mindset, which is currently driving world politics through incessant wars for material resources.

    It all comes down to a matter of values that flow into a society’s make-up, and Iran still values the basic extended family unit from which the western democracies have been far removed, thereby making individuals vulnerable for personal exploitation."

    "Traditional music – instrumental and voice – that develops, merges into contemporary music is so refreshing when compared to what is happening in Western music with its emphasis on noisy rap music. The arts generally are not influenced by the decadent western modern art movement, something that however needs to be watched. "

    "That I see more often Iranian women with a sticky-tape over their nose indicates a silly vanity is becoming more common place. Also, some women and some men wear too much make-up and dress shabbily in jeans – especially with special-purpose rips at the knee level that is a direct import from the west. This distorts their innate beauty as accentuated through headscarves and hijab where the eyes speak of intelligence rather than superficial beauty.

    After all, the concept of beauty is more than just skin-deep because it is the soul that creates a person’s beauty. That Iran still has public modesty as a legal term is to be appreciated. The beauty of motherhood and of generational thinking is thereby destroyed and the ‘me’ and ‘I want it know’ generation of consumerism begins as it is operational in the western ‘free and democratic world’. The only freedom we have in the west is the freedom to go shopping."

    "All too often Iranians leave their country in search of material comforts in the West – in Los Angeles, in Sydney, for example. Many have a lavish lifestyle but because of the idealistic mindset Iranians when they get older find the materialism superficial and not satisfying their spiritual needs that cannot be satisfied through consumer goods – and alcohol and other drugs can only block out this spiritual need.

    It is a problem in the west because the secular nature of the consumer society conflicts with Islam
    because this religion is a comprehensive religion offering a realistic and factual worldview that satisfies basic and spiritual needs.

    Politically this expresses itself in the west being controlled by Jewish thinkers who offer atheism to the non-Jews but then they themselves claim to belong to that long Jewish religious tradition.

    I noted this in my presentation at the 2nd Bioethics conference when I stated that two prominent Bioethicists, Jeremy Rifkin and Peter Singer both claim to be atheists and Jewish who are both set on establishing a materialistic-hedonistic mindset for the non-Jews, basing the premise of their argument on the Holocaust.

    This makes their whole argument suspect and superficial – and purely subjective where hatred of the German people is the driving force, not any fundamental ethical consideration based on sound philosophical, universal, considerations as made for example by philosopher Immanuel Kant."

    "As above – it is a perpetual human quest for perfection but in the west imperfections are regarded as deficiencies, for example, the beauty industry thrives on suggestions that it is a shame to be getting old, that old age is shameful. This is also evident in the Iranian cosmetic industry where surgery is used.

    Especially in the USA men and women will subject themselves to surgery for reducing wrinkles in their faces, something that indicates a fear of growing old and of dying. Death in Islam is an accepted notion, as is the ideas of martyrdom, something the west rejects. But in the west countless teenagers suicide because they have no belief in anything except in themselves and in acquiring consumer goods.

    The freedom we have in the west is the freedom to self-destruct but not criticize our political system.
    Pauline Hanson during the 1990s was critical of Australia’s political establishment and founded ONE NATION – and won a number of seats in federal parliament. This threatened the existence of the two-party system, and a pretext was found to have her charged with fraud and imprisoned and this in a democracy!"

    " Basic hospitality can be expressed by individuals who feel they are at home within their own country, that they own their country and where patriotism, nationalism is a part of their cultural make-up. In the west we cannot express such ideals because of what happened during World War II when national Socialist Germany lost the war against the ‘freedom and democracy’ advocates of atheistic predatory capitalism. Australia and other western countries are now registered in the USA as a business – nation states now have a business number!"

    "The bedrock on which my enquiring actions rests is an aim to get to the truth of a matter. It is a weaving action that in time produces wonderful carpets of truth. In the west the younger generation does not have the patience for this because the profit-driven consumer society requires that instant gratification be pursued so that consumption continues to grow. This
    is a physical thing that does not accept the truth that the mind develops and unfolds and only slowly develops at its own pace.

    To date it has not been possible to enhance mind functions but western consumerism aims to find a pill that will solve every human problem – I call this the search for the comprehensive happiness pill: it is invisible and you take it every morning! Of course, such thinking about happiness is merely a search for finding a home within one’s own mind, something a belief in God makes superfluous, and Islam does this comprehensively by offering a universal approach to ‘happiness’ without swallowing pills!"

    "So, softly-softly politics is an Iranian hallmark, but I hasten to add that is only possible because someone is physically protecting the people from external aggressors that want to dismantle Iranian progress. Were it not for the Revolutionary Guard, for example, then the external influence would have easily seen a return to violence and foreign corruption operating within Iranian society.

    The Moussavi movement, though well-meaning and convincing was still funded by the US which managed to pour millions of dollars – openly – into Iranian society. It is now a trying time for all Iranians because the dialectic set by the US on 11 September 2001 that declared the Islamic world a terrorist world, religion is not holding up because it is based on a lie. The western world operates on a freedom and democracy where criminal gangs have a free reign and where the police and the criminal world manage society, and where sensitive individuals have a hard time protecting their cultural endeavors and ideals."

    "I meant that too many countries rely on tourism as an industry of their own economy as is the case, for example, in a number of South East Asian countries. This tourism is often blatant sex-based tourism, which destroys the cultural heritage of a people.
    It is important for a citizen to feel at home first, and that can be done by the young Iranians traveling overseas, exposing themselves to the world, then returning home.

    This is what I did as a young man when I traveled the world and wherever I stopped I also continued my studies. It is in this way that I, with a German background, stumbled on to the Holocaust lies and found that Iranians had an open mind in this matter. This meant that Iran was also not afraid of Jewish pressure and so do its own thing.

    The nuclear development issue is merely highlighting the western world’s hypocrisy in this matter, especially because the Zionist regime in Israel has a highly developed program of constructing especially mini-nuclear weapons that have been used in a number of ‘false-flag’ operations around the world.

    It means nothing to receive praise/acceptance from countries where predatory capitalism has destroyed the lives of millions, for example in the USA where 20 million hopes are empty because of the mortgage crisis. Such anti-Iran sentiments are media generated and the world media is in few hands, and they are mostly Jewish-owned. In fact, if you analyze the anti-Iran push in the world, at the US you find it is always done by proxy for Israel: Isra-hell!"

    "The basic message is one that the western peoples are so degenerate that it is impossible to have a people uprising. Sex, drugs, rock’n roll is the message.

    The recent financial breakdown of western global institutions has caused untold misery to millions of individuals who have lost their job, their home and their families. The suggestion is always that it is the individual’s fault that such a catastrophe has come about and the financial system’s inherent flaws are not corrected.

    That is what I personally fight against – and that is what Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists fought against. The Jewish Holocaust issue is a story designed to deflect from this predatory capitalist phenomenon. Iran is at this stage now in its development and is thus a threat to this international capitalist system, as is Zimbabwe and other nations that refuse to be enslaved to the IMF and World Bank in this never-ending cycle of debt finance.

    The concept is Autarky where self-sufficiency for a nation is the goal. This stands in stark contrast to the many multinational corporations who hate nothing more than a national sovereign state, as is the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Many of these multinationals are pharmaceutical firms whose budget is larger than some of the media-sized countries. The USA has been buying influence for decades and we saw this in Egypt that received billions of grants annually from the USA – and what happened to this money? The ruling elite placed it into Swiss bank accounts, etc."

    "Iran has been successful in its endeavors and now has also brought Turkey on-side, thereby swinging it away from Europe. But the largest problem is faced with the existence of the Zionist military state of Israel that seeks to dominate the Middle East without any dissent.

    Here Iran can make the Middle East a safe haven by working towards the dismantling of this racist state – and if it does not succeed, then the Middle East will be dominated by Jewish interests – and such interests are based on TALMUD values, and that is a horrifying prospect for all peoples."

    "One effect that is creating a false consciousness within Iranians is that the west is better and that we have more freedom. This is why it is a good idea to send young Iranians overseas so that they can evaluate for themselves what they find.

    Many will fall into the traps set by consumerism
    and fail to resist hedonistic inversion tendencies, for example. But such matters have also run their course in the western democracies where now homosexual couples, male and female, want to set up families, thereby giving lie to the fact that their life-style is a better and more fulfilling one."

    "Iranian’s still have a modesty concept and family values that have not been destroyed by the so-called post-modernity value system where there is no home for a God, where sense-gratification is the order of the day, where money rules supreme and no other values find in-depth expression.

    Of course I relate to the Iranian people because they still have an emotional openness and are idealistic in their value system, much like the German people and unlike the peoples coming from countries influenced by empiricism and capitalistic consumerism and driven by class thinking, which is an expression of false consciousness at its best!"

    Multicultural societies operate on a fraudulent principle of equality. Any viable society must have as dominant cultural framework. In Australia we have multiculturalism but because 70% is still Anglo-Australian there is no danger of disintegration. Germany and France turned their mono-culture into multicultural states and it has now been accepted that it has been a failure for the Germans and the French.

    I say multiculturalism is a fraud because in Australia various ethnic groups are supported through government grants and elaborate multicultural structures are developed. But once an ethnic person reaches the top of the multicultural tree, he has to begin anew when joining mainstream society.

    Iranians are fortunate in that they have a unifying principle in the form of Islam that enables them to keep expressing their ethnic diversity without threatening the unity of Iran. In Australia we have a secular state where that unifying principle is not developed and then is often labeled ‘racist’ by the ethnics, especially when Jewish interests in Australia are threatened.

    As former Prime minister of Malaysia, Tun Dr. Mahathir bin Mohamad, noted,[B] the Jews run the world by proxy, and it is in their interest to continue to advocate multiculturalism wherever they have an influence – except, of course, in Israel!"
    "Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society."


  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Online
    Friday, August 24th, 2012 @ 11:48 PM
    England, Norway, Sweden, Germany
    England England
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Wow, so many things in this interview that I liked.

    One thing especially, the idea that our only freedom in the West is to go shopping. It calls to remembrance the quote from Tyler Durden, "the things you own end up owning you". What the West really needs is to move away from materialism and towards idealism again.

Similar Threads

  1. What is Freedom?
    By Caledonian in forum Metaphysics
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: Saturday, March 23rd, 2019, 05:12 PM
  2. Holocaust Critic Fredrick Toben Jailed in Australia
    By Nachtengel in forum Australia & New Zealand
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM
  3. Replies: 48
    Last Post: Thursday, April 20th, 2006, 04:13 PM


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts