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    Russians: Hans Günther Exposed

    http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/reoehchap6d.htm

    "Central and north-western Russia are (with the exception, perhaps, of the somewhat more Nordic regions at the boundaries of the Baltic States) on the whole predominantly East Baltic. About 80 per cent., it is reckoned, are light-eyed; only 13 percent. have a cephalic index under 80"

    Yaaaaaaaaaaawn

    Russia is on:

    25% dolichocephalic
    25% mesocephalic

    and that's on average.

    In the Central Russia it's 50% (dolicho- and mesocephals). In the NE Russia the number is lower, in the certain western, southern and northern regions - higher.

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    "Inner Asiatic blood shows itself as a more or less strong admixture all over the east of Europe. It is said to be very evident in the Russian district of Yaroslav."

    Where Peter the Great settled thousands and thousands Finns, when the region became depopulated...

    PS. Number of the dolichocephals is 0 there...

    PPS. This is the only Inner Russian region which was exluded from the stats.

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    "There is a region in Great Russia which should be especially mentioned, a region of short, mesocephalic, dark-haired, brown-eyed people, south and south-east from Moscow in the districts of Riazan and Tambov, and reaching thence in a north-east direction to the districts of the (generally dolichocephalic) Cheremisses, the Wotyaks, the Ostyaks, and the Voguls in Asia. Are we to suppose a Mediterranean strain in the case of these people, who have been called 'proto-Finnish' or (by Chepurkovsky) 'the Riazan type,' or (by Bunak) 'Uralic'? However, it does not accord with the picture of the Mediterranean race that these 'proto-Finns' should have flat, broad foreheads and cheek-bones set at an outward slant. These characters would again remind us of an 'Asiatic' type; and Bunak suspects in this race a 'proto-Mongoloid' form. What is very noteworthy, however, in this region is the marked mesocephaly (cephalic index 76-79), which in a brachycephalic environment like this points to the admixture of a dolichocephalic race."

    http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/reoehchap6d.htm

    No, I don't think that Guenther was an idiot... he just sounds like an idiot... I don't believe he had no anthropological data...

    Coon says the Tambov region is Nordic... it's only 2% less in fair pigmented types than the Novgorod group, which is, in turn, only a couple % less fair than the most depigmented Baltic groups...

    "Dolichocephalic Race" stands for the Battle-Axe Race, with Baltic admixture. Asiatic admixture forms another anthropological zone - known as the Don-Sursk Steppe zone

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    Haha,a slavic Untermensch thinks he had more knowledge about race than Günther...

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    Well, actually I've studied the Ryazan type closely.

    The point is that Slavs in the Ryazan region have partly assimilated Finnish speaking Mordvins - Erzja (thus Ryazan), who originally were Baltic speaking but later were assimilated (linguistically) by Finns, but racially Mordvins - Erzya were not Baltic (at least not basically). Ancient Erzjanes were cut off from the main Baltic Region (Western Central Russia and Bielorussia) by advancing Ugro-Finns (who were advancing since 500s from eastern Volga regions due to worsened climatic conditions... actually Volga Tatars were assimilated (by Bulgars) Slavs - Pinkish Sakalibs of the famous Artania)... There were several such regions, (semi-)surrounded by Finns, the most significant was the land of the Golyad tribe in the southern Central Russia.

    So Vyatichis, who settled this region, unlike other Slavs, were not considerably changed, as the race was the same.

    It's not proven that Vyatichis've come from the West. Perhaps, first they settled in the more fertile Don region (Sarkel).

    It seems that this part of Russia was the northern half of the Battle-Axe/Corded homeland.

    Just a few thoughts thou.

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    Originally posted by von Falkenhayn
    Haha,a slavic Untermensch thinks he had more knowledge about race than Günther...
    I've already explained who's the Untermensch here... to Arno.

    Don't forget, moron, it were my ancectors who subjugated Finnish-speaking savages, who later became known as Germans.

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    http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/chapter-XII9b.htm

    The Great Russians of a special area lying partly in the Tambov, Penza, and Saratov Governments, who form a mesocephalic nucleus in the country half way between Moscow and the mouth of the Volga, have been subjected to a detailed study,106 which shows them to be essentially Nordic. A mean stature of 169 cm., a cephalic index just under 79, and a head length of 192 mm., indicate an initial resemblance to Nordics or brunet Mediterraneans. The auricular height mean of about 130 mm. is greater than that of Scandinavian Nordics, however, as are the bizygomatic of 140 mm. and the bigonial of 109 mm., while the minimum frontal of 105 mm. is more nearly Nordic than the other lateral dimensions. The face height, 125 mm., yields a facial index on the borderline of mesoprosopy and leptoprosopy; the nasal index, about 65, is derived from a mean nose length of 55 mm. and a breadth of nearly 36 mm.

    N.B. Auricular height must be 140, esp. as it's "greater"

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    Don't forget, moron, it were my ancectors who subjugated Finnish-speaking savages, who later became known as Germans.
    Uh, Germans originally spoke Finnish? Funny, when you consider that Finnish came from the EAST and was an Ugric language related to central and east asians Altaic and Turkic languages. Why were Finns sent back east to resettle Ryazan? I highly doubt that all of the Finnish-speakers are due to Finns being sent out there, many of them have been there for centuries, as it was one of the areas they originally settled.
    When you say Baltic languages, what do you mean? Estonian, like Finnish, is an Ugric language brough from far to the eas. Lativan and Lithuanian are totally unrelated to it; they are Aryan languages very close to ancient Indo-European. It really bothers me to see the anti-German and anti-Baltic sentiment so rampant in Russia. Russians seem to think that their atrocities against Germans, Latvians and Lithuanians were completely justified, and don't even get me started on your Stalin-worship. x_nono

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    :-)

    Uh, Germans originally spoke Finnish? Funny, when you consider that Finnish came from the EAST and was an Ugric language related to central and east asians Altaic and Turkic languages.

    True, but not funny. Not to me.

    Why were Finns sent back east to resettle Ryazan? I highly doubt that all of the Finnish-speakers are due to Finns being sent out there, many of them have been there for centuries, as it was one of the areas they originally settled.

    What do you mean saying that "Finns were sent back east to resettle Ryazan"???

    ??? ??? ???

    When you say Baltic languages, what do you mean?

    I mean... BALTIC languages!

    Estonian, like Finnish, is an Ugric language brough from far to the eas. Lativan and Lithuanian are totally unrelated to it; they are Aryan languages very close to ancient Indo-European. It really bothers me to see the anti-German and anti-Baltic sentiment so rampant in Russia. Russians seem to think that their atrocities against Germans, Latvians and Lithuanians were completely justified, and don't even get me started on your Stalin-worship.

    I fail to understand you. What are you trying to say?

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