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    Huginn: Biggest mistake in the history of the world.
    As I wrote in this thread ...

    Operation Sealion was a pipe dream. Hitler himself was only half-heartedly interested and Admiral Raeder of the Kriegsmarine was positively terrified at the prospect. He feared his whole navy could end up on the Channel seabed!
    Sorry, Huginn, but the only ones still advocating an invasion of Britain are those who (with hindsight) are now saying that things could not have turned out any worse than they did.

    Had Operation Sealion gone ahead, these same people would now be asking whatever possessed Hitler to embark on this suicide mission

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    How Winston Churchill sold out Britain, and Europe.


    Winston Churchill and the Zionist 'FOCUS' group




    On February 8, 1920, page 5 of the Sunday Herald newspaper, an article appeared by Winston Spencer Churchill, the man who would later become Prime Minister of Great Britain, and wage war on Germany, on behalf of the Jews.


    Remember when reading this article, that Churchill would later ally himself (and Britain) with Stalin, and the Marxist Communist Russia during World War 2, to destroy the people who were fighting against the International Jewish bankers, Bolsheviks and Marxists that he speaks about.





    Churchill declared war on the very people who liberated many of our fellow European Nations from the slavery of these tyrannical Jewish Communist demons.



    Now, having read that article written by Winston Churchill in 1920, ask yourself WHY would he later turn full circle, team up with the Jewish Marxists and start a war with the people fighting against this enemy that he had tried to expose and warn the world about?



    The reason that he gave for declaring war on Germany, and starting World War 2, was that Germany invaded Poland.



    What the schools and media do not tell us is that Russia had already invaded Poland from the east, and were already in the process of this invasion before Germany entered Poland. Germany entered Danzig (then officially Polish territory) what was German land, that had been given to Poland after the First world war as part of the Treaty of Versailles. They were re-claiming their own territory, where the German people were being persecuted by the authorities. A large number of the officials in Danzig coincidentally happened to be Jews.



    The Prime Minister at the start of World War 2 was Neville Chamberlain, who did not want a war. Churchill however, had for years been barracking Parliament, calling for a war on Hitler, earning himself the reputation as a “war monger”. WHY?



    Winston Churchill enjoyed a lavish lifestyle, for example, smoking expensive cigars, and drinking a bottle of champagne for breakfast every morning (even during the war when the British people where struggling with rationing).



    During his “wilderness years”, he had become bankrupt, and as well as struggling to finance his luxury lifestyle, he was about to lose Chartwell, his family stately home.



    Between 1930 and 1939 he was financed by a slush fund emanating from a secret pressure group known as the Focus.


    British historian David Irving has investigated, and in his book on Churchill, “Churchill’s War” details who the Focus group were and their arrangement with Churchill:


    Irving on the Focus:

    The Focus was financed by a slush fund set up by some of London’s wealthiest businessmen — principally, businessmen organized by the Board of Jewish Deputies in England, whose chairman was a man called Sir Bernard Waley Cohen. Sir Bernard Waley Cohen held a private dinner party at his apartment on July 29, 1936. This is in Waley Cohen’s memoirs … The 29th of July, 1936, Waley Cohen set up a slush fund of 50,000 pounds for The Focus, the Churchill pressure group. Now, 50,000 pounds in 1936, multiply that by ten, at least, to get today’s figures. By another three or four to multiply that into Canadian dollars. So, 40 times 50,000 pounds — about $2 million in Canadian terms — was given by Bernard Waley Cohen to this secret pressure group of Churchill in July 1936. The purpose was — the tune that Churchill had to play was — fight Germany. Start warning the world about Germany, about Nazi Germany. Churchill, of course, one of our most brilliant orators, a magnificent writer, did precisely that.


    For two years, The Focus continued to militate, in fact, right through until 1939. And I managed to find the secret files of The Focus, I know the names of all the members. I know all their secrets. I know how much money they were getting, not just from The Focus, but from other governments. I use the word “other governments” advisedly because one of my sources of information for my Churchill biography is, in fact, the Chaim Weizmann Papers in the State of Israel. Israel has made available to me all Churchill’s secret correspondence with Chain Weizmann, all his secret conferences. It is an astonishing thing, but I, despite my reputation, in a kind of negative sense with these people, am given access to files like that, just the same as the Russian Government has given me complete access to all of the Soviet records of Churchill’s dealings with Ivan Maisky, Joseph Stalin, Molotov and the rest of them. I am the only historian who has been given access to these Russian records. It is a kind of horse trading method that I use when I want access to these files, because it is in these foreign archives we find the truth about Winston Churchill.



    When you want the evidence about his tax dodging in 1949 and thereabouts, you are not going to look in his own tax files, you’re going to look in the files of those who employed him, like the Time/Life Corporation of America. That’s where you look. And when you’re looking for evidence about who was putting money up for Churchill when he was in the wilderness and who was funding this secret group of his, The Focus, you’re not going to look in his files. Again, you’re going to look in the secret files, for example, of the Czech government in Prague, because that is where much of the money was coming from.



    Irving then revealed further details of Churchill’s financing by the Czechs, as well as the facts of Churchill’s financial rescue by a wealthy banker of Austro-Jewish origins, Sir Henry Strakosch, who, in Irving’s words, emerged “out of the woodwork of the City of London, that great pure international financial institution.” When Churchill was bankrupted overnight in the American stock market crash of 1937-1938, it was Strakosch who was instrumental in setting up the central banks of South Africa and India, who bought up all Churchill’s debts. When Strakosch died in 1943, the details of his will, published in the London Times, included a bequest of £20,000 to the then Prime Minister, eliminating the entire debt.



    Irving dealt with Churchill’s performance as a wartime leader, first as Britain’s First Lord of the Admiralty and then as Prime Minister. The British historian adverted to Churchill’s “great military defeat in Norway, which he himself engineered and pioneered,” and mentioned the suspicion of Captain Ralph Edwards, who was on Churchill’s staff at the time, that Churchill had deliberately caused the fiasco to bring down Neville Chamberlain and replace him as prime minister, which subsequently happened.



    For years, the West have been lied to, by the education system and by the media. Since World War 2, these institutions, and our governments have been in the control of Marxist Zionist Jews, and their lackeys (like Churchill).



    Europe lost World War 2, and Churchill, played a key role, motivated by pure selfish greed.




    How Winston Churchill sold out Britain, and Europe. 14 X 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    As I wrote in this thread ...



    Sorry, Huginn, but the only ones still advocating an invasion of Britain are those who (with hindsight) are now saying that things could not have turned out any worse than they did.

    Had Operation Sealion gone ahead, these same people would now be asking whatever possessed Hitler to embark on this suicide mission

    No one was saying it would have been a walk in the park, but yes, could it possibly have been worse than how it did turn out?


    There are certain conditions that needed to be met for the invasion to have succeeded. Capturing the BEF at Dunkirk was one of them. Preparations would have to have been made directly upon Britain's declaration of war in September 1939, as well. Moving the nation to full mobilization of industry, building especially planes. Paratroop planes, torpedo planes, landing craft, and more submarines would be necessary. It had to be done. If Britain was not knocked out quickly, the Americans would enter the war and have Britain as a big aircraft carrier and staging field. It was the only way to win.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    No one was saying it would have been a walk in the park, but yes, could it possibly have been worse than how it did turn out?
    This is my whole point though, Huginn.

    We know, with hindsight, how things turned out in the end and so any scenario could be considered an improvement. This doesn't mean to say it would have been a sensible strategy at the time though, and if this had cost Germany the war then you and millions of others would now be calling it a crazy move

    Admiral Raeder's evaluation of the situation was that the Kriegsmarine would be completely destroyed. He was surely the man who, at that time, knew more about Operation Sealion and its attendant risks than anyone else. I don't see how anyone could possibly question his judgement, with which Hitler himself largely agreed, but obviously if they'd known in 1940 that Germany would lose the war anyway then I'm sure they'd have decided to give it a try.

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    Churchill Was a Pawn of the Khazian Bankster Cult


    Churchill's War by David Irving:





    11 min 28 sec E Michael Jones on 'the jewish problem'.


    30 min 50 sec - David Irving on Churchill's War.


    Worth watching.

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    Winston Churchill’s Darkest Hour?



    By 1919, Churchill already had blood all over his hands. Churchill ended up slaughtering almost 90,000 German civilians. He also was responsible for the deaths of more than a million Indians.



    Hollywood still hasn’t come to grip with Winston Churchill and his plan to exterminate German civilians. In the recent movie Darkest Hour, they portray Churchill as a man of the people. Churchill did everything he could to avoid a bloody war with Germany, Darkest Hour tells us, and he even asked the average person about their opinions on how to avoid the looming war with Hitler.


    As we shall see, this is complete baloney. But that’s not all. Gary Oldman, who stars as Winston Churchill in the biopic, made even more stupid statements when he declared that “Churchill was the man who saved the world. That’s what I hope people will take away: To see the film and realize, ‘Oh boy we came very close to a different way of living.’”[1]


    When Oldman was asked the question, “What do you want audiences to talk away from the film?,” he responded: “It highlights the fortitude and resilience and the humanity of its leader, Winston Churchill. We screened the movie, and I could forgive the Americans for not knowing the history, but I was amazed that Britons didn’t really know it either.”[2]


    If you like a good laugh, then consider this. When Oldman was again asked, “What did you learn about Churchill while shooting the film?,” he said:

    “His stock rose considerably. I realize that this was a man, he was incomparable. I don’t know if you could equate him or contrast him with other leaders. I think perhaps he’s there up with Washington and Lincoln. The achievements…He was a superman. An indispensable figure.”[3]

    The humanity of Winston Churchill? Did Oldman have a different Churchill in mind when he said this? Did he actually know Churchill’s track record even during World War I? What Darkest Hour teaches us is simply this: Gone is the true history of Winston Churchill—all that is left is Hollywood’s deliberately distorted and dubious account of the man who did not hesitate to kill multiplied thousands of civilians to please his bosses.


    Even the Irish Independent had this to say back in 2012: “Everything people believed about Hitler’s intentions toward Britain was a myth created by Churchill.” For example, Churchill perpetuated the categorical lie that Hitler desired to invade Britain in 1940, but it was a total fabrication.


    On the contrary, Hitler “admired the British Empire,” and that he “offered terms that did not involve German control of Britain. Churchill refused to allow these terms to be read to the cabinet, and they remain prudently concealed under the 100-year rule.”[4] The same newspaper rightly reported:


    “Instead, Churchill’s determination to keep Britain at war turned what had been merely a continental defeat of its army into the enduring myth that in 1940, Britain faced a war for national survival. “But the German naval leader, Raeder, had repeatedly forbidden his staff from planning an invasion of Britain. And far from wanting to continue the war, in June 1940, Hitler ordered 20% of his army to be demobilised, in order to get the German economy going again. “The ‘invasion fleet’ that the Nazis began to assemble that summer was no more capable of invading Britain than it was Hawaii. It was war by illusion: its purpose was to get the British to the negotiating table.”[5]


    Perhaps the bigger issue is that Churchill concocted deliberate lies about Hitler because he was working for the Powers That Be. In fact, right after his father’s death, Churchill became Ernest “Cassel’s creature,” one of the most “influential Jewish moneylenders” then.[6] Once that happened, Churchill began to hate the Germans. In the process, he starved the German civilians to death and bragged about it. This is Churchill at his best:

    “Starve the whole population—men, women and children, old and young, wounded and sound—into submission.”[7]


    Churchill got his wish:

    “In December 1918 the German Board of Public Health claimed that 763,000 Germans had died because of the blockade. In April 1919 Dr. Marx Rubner claimed that another 100,000 Germans who died between April and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in July, so the number of Germans who died from Winston Churchill’s starvation blockade most probably approximates the number of Irish who died during the Great Famine.”[8]


    Gary Oldman should have told his interviewer that Churchill ended up joining the greatest mass murderer (Stalin) in the twentieth century in order to defeat Hitler. In 2013, popular historian Max Hastings wrote in the Daily Mail that Churchill did summon “bold lies to wage war,” but those lies were good because “Churchill did it to save Britain…”[9]


    Churchill: The Mass-Murdering Clown


    Churchill was an avowed social Darwinist and flaming Zionist at the same time. [10] Churchill became Prime Minister in 1940. During his speech, he unequivocally declared:

    “You ask, what is our policy? I will say: it is to wage war, by sea, land, and air, with all our might…”[11]


    Here once again we see the incestuous relationship (or competition) between the Darwinian ideology and Jewish subversive movements. Both Zionism and Darwinism support the promiscuous idea that wars will bring about the greatest good—at the expense of the weak and needy. Wars, according to Darwin, is inevitable because the “higher animals” need to wipe out the “lower” ones. The Malthusian doctrine, said Darwin, could be applied “with manifold force to the whole animal and vegetable kingdoms.”[12] In that sense, “the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life,” which incidentally is the subtitle of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species, is of primary importance.


    Darwin, in a covert and pernicious way, subverted the moral order and replaced it with the “favoured races.” It was no coincidence that colonial empires were viewed in a Darwinian terminology. As one historian puts it,

    “Contemporaries explained this rush for land in terms of Darwin’s evolutionary theories. The fittest and most adaptable of the great powers would survive and grow stronger at the expense of the enfeebled…As Churchill observed in 1899, ‘the position of England among the nations is the position of a dog with a bone in the midst of a hungry pack.’”[13]


    At one point, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”[14] Toye writes that Churchill “gave his views on the Indian famine of 1873-4, claiming that Viceroy had been right to refuse demands that he prohibit grain exports.”[15]Another observer writes that

    “Churchill had corroborated Malthus’s perspective, writing of an 1898 Indian plague: ‘a philosopher may watch unmoved the destruction of some of those superfluous millions, whose life must of necessity be destitute of pleasure.’”[16]


    Churchill said elsewhere:

    “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum.”[17]


    Darwin used similar words to describe “uncivilized men.”[18] In fact, Darwin constantly used phrases such as “higher animals” to describe how the powerful would eliminate the weak. Following Darwin’s ideology, Churchill declared,

    “I do not admit for instance that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia. I do not admit a wrong has been to those people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race or… a more worldly wise race…has come in and taken their place.”[19]


    When people were objecting to his views about poisoned gas, Churchill said that they were being too squeamish, adding that

    “the objections of the India Office to the use of gas against natives are unreasonable. Gas is a merciful weapon than [the] high explosive shell, and compels an enemy to accept a decision with less loss of life than any other agency of war….Why is it not fair for a British artilleryman to fire a shell which makes the said native sneeze? It is really too silly.”[20]


    It got even better: “when an aide pointed out that Tito intended to transform Yugoslavia into a Communist dictatorship on the Soviet model,” Churchill responded by saying, “Do you intend to live there?”[21]


    Churchill, as should be evident by now, has a history of liquidating civilians mercilessly. He said way back in 1915, right after World War I broke out:

    “I know this war is smashing and shattering the lives of thousands every moment—and yet—I cannot help it—I love every second I live.”[22]


    Churchill continued, “The twin roots of all our evils, Nazi Germany and Prussian militarism, must be extirpated. Until this is achieved, there are no sacrifices we will not make and no lengths in violence to which we will not go.”[23]


    When Stalin was sending people by the millions to the Bolshevik slaughter house, Churchill thought it was a great idea. He said:

    “Why are we making a fuss about the Russian deportations in Rumania of Saxons [Germans] and others?…I cannot see the Russians are wrong in making 100 or 150 thousand of these people work their passage….I cannot myself consider that it is wrong of the Russians to take Rumanians of any origin they like to work in the Russian coal-fields.”[24]


    Again, after the destruction of Dresden, Churchill tried very hard to wash his hands off. He said: “I cannot recall anything about it [Dresden]. I thought the Americans did it.”[25]When all is said and done, it was pretty clear to perceptive observers and historians that Churchill and Roosevelt intended to destroy Germany.


    By 1919, Churchill already had blood all over his hands. “We are enforcing the blockade with rigour,” he said, “and Germany is very near starvation.”[26] When the dust settled, Churchill ended up slaughtering almost 90,000 German civilians. He also was responsible for the deaths of more than a million Indians.


    “Britain’s wartime prime minister did not discuss in his six-volume account the 1943 famine in the eastern Indian province of Bengal, which killed 1.5 million people by the official estimate and 3 million by most others.


    “One primary cause of the famine was the extent to which Churchill and his advisers chose to use resources of India to wage a war against Germany and Japan, causing scarcity and inflation within the colony.”[27]


    This is the man that Hollywood, the entire Holocaust establishment, the Neoconservative movement, and outlets like the Rolling Stone revere. The Rolling Stone, the BBC, and the Guardian actually hope that Oldman will receive an Oscar for his performance as Churchill in the Darkest Hour.[28]


    In a review of the film, A. O. Scott of the New York Times declares that Churchill “enjoys the push and pull of politics, the intellectual labour of problem-solving and the daily adventure of being himself.”[29] We are also told that ““Darkest Hour” is proud of its hero, proud of itself and proud to have come down on the right side of history nearly 80 years after the fact. It wants you to share that pride, and to claim a share of it.”[30]


    What is missing in these flattering and sweeping pronouncements is that the average person never gets to know who Churchill really was: was a mass-murdering clown whose god was Mammon and whose diabolical enterprise left Germany and India in ruin.


    Churchill was willing to steal, kill, and destroy for the people who actually put him in power. Hollywood and the Neoconservatives have been deliberately ignoring or dismissing the historical accounts on Churchill in order to maintain the historically incoherent view that Churchill was “fighting against international terrorism and tyranny.”[31] What these people end up saying is that German civilians and Indians were incontrovertibly terrorists.





    • [1] Helena Andrews-Dyer, “Gary Oldman on Winston Churchill: ‘He was a superman,’” Washington Post, November 21, 2017.
    • [2] Ibid.
    • [3] Ibid.
    • [4] Kevin Myers, “Everything people believed about Hitler’s intentions toward Britain was a myth created by Churchill,” Irish Independent, June 19, 2012.
    • [5] Ibid.
    • [6] E. Michael Jones, Barren Metal: A History of Capitalism as the Conflict Between Labor and Usury (South Bend: Fidelity Press, 2014), 1201-1202.
    • [7] Ibid., 1211.
    • [8] Ibid.
    • [9] Max Hastings “Yes, they both used lies to wage war. But Churchill did it to save Britain – Blair did it to save himself,” Daily Mail, July 2, 2013.
    • [10] See for example Ralph Raico, Great Wars & Great Leaders (Auburn: Ludwig von Mises Institute, 2010), 59; Mukerjee, Churchill’s Secret War, 16-17; Richard Toye, Churchill’s Empire: The World That Made Him and the World He Made (New York: St. Martin’s Press, 2010), 28.
    • [11] Winston Churchill, The Quotable Churchill (Philadelphia: Running Press Publishers, 2013), 163-164.
    • [12] Quoted in Madhusree Mukerjee, Churchill’s Secret War: The British Empire and the Ravaging of India During World War II (New York: Basic Books, 2010), 204.
    • [13] Lawrence James, Churchill and Empire: A Portrait of an Imperialist (New York: Pegasus Books, 2014), 28.
    • [14] Quoted in Mukerjee, Churchill’s Secret War, 78.
    • [15] Toye, Churchill’s Empire, 30.
    • [16] Mukerjee, Churchill’s Secret War, 204.
    • [17] Quoted in Warren Dockter, Churchill and the Islamic World (New York & London: I. B. Tauris & Co., 2015), 113.
    • [18] Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex (New York: D. Appleton and Co., 1896), 1: 168.
    • [19] Dockter, Churchill and the Islamic World, 178; Gilbert, Churchill and the Jews, 120; Addison, Churchill, 137.
    • [20] Quoted in Giles Milton, Russian Roulette: How British Spies Thwarted Lenin’s Global Plot (London: Hodder & Stoughton, 2013), 243.
    • [21] Raico, Great Wars & Great Leaders, 85.
    • [22] Quoted in ibid., Great Wars & Great Leaders, 101.
    • [23] Ibid.
    • [24] Raico, Great Wars & Great Leaders, 95.
    • [25] Ibid., 101.
    • [26] Ibid., 95.
    • [27] Murkerjee, Churchill’s Secret War, ix.
    • [28] Peter Travers, “‘Darkest Hour’ Review: Gary Oldman Gives Us a Fearsome, Oscar-Worthy Churchill,” Rolling Stone, November 21, 2017; Nicholas Barber, “Film Review: Darkest Hour,” BBC, November 21, 2017; Peter Bradshaw, “Darkest Hour review – Gary Oldman is a tremendous Winston Churchill in high-octane drama,” Guardian, September 14, 2017.
    • [29] A. O. Scott, “Review: ‘Darkest Hour,’ or the Great Man Theory of History (and Acting),” NY Times, November 21, 2017.
    • [30] Ibid.
    • [31] Joseph Laconte, “Winston Churchill’s July 4 Message to America,” Weekly Standard, July 3, 2010.




    VETERANS TODAY: Winston Churchill’s Darkest Hour?28 X 2019.


    I've watched 'Darkest Hour'. All I could think about was, this was the man who annihilated DRESDEN which you can read he doesn't even acknowledge.

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    Lies about World War II and the lying liars who told them




    The technocrats will admit that Stalin was a bad guy and that he did kill millions, but they will sweep that aside and focus on the “Holocaust uniqueness.” As one historian and Zionist friend once told me, “Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil to defeat real evil like the Nazis.” My only response was, “Oh, I see.”





    If you think that Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were great statesmen and politicians who rescued England and America from being obliterated by Nazi Germany, think again.



    We have discussed the wicked activities of Churchill and Roosevelt in the past. We also addressed the issue that Pearl Harbor was a total pretext. Pat Buchanan has recently written a reasonable article which indicates that we were right all along: both Roosevelt and Churchill were lying liars. They lied about Hitler. They lied about World War II, and they lied about their covert plan and diabolical activity.


    Churchill and Roosevelt, as we have argued, did everything they could to get England and America into a bloody war. On October 29, 1940, Roosevelt told the American people:

    “While I am talking to you mothers and fathers, I give you one more assurance. I have said this before but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.”[1]


    Three days later, he reiterated: “Your president says this country is not going to war.”[2]


    Yet privately, Roosevelt was preparing for war. He allied with Churchill, a warmonger and a thoroughly Zionist puppet, to liquidate German civilians by the thousands. It was Churchill and not Hitler, says historian Richard Overy, who indiscriminately killed around 600,000 civilians and injured more than a million others. Many of those who survived “were physically or mentally disabled for life.”[3] What were some of Roosevelt’s lies and fabrications?


    Roosevelt knew that no thinking American would support a war with Germany, particularly when the United States had just gone through a tumultuous storm known as The Great Depression.[4] In 1933, Roosevelt himself delivered a speech in which he said:

    Taxes have risen; our ability to pay has fallen; government of all kinds is faced by serious curtailment of income; the means of exchange are frozen in the currents of trade; the withered leaves of industrial enterprise lie on every side; farmers find no markets for their produce; the savings of many years in thousands of families are gone.

    “More important, a host of unemployed citizens face the grim problem of existence, and an equally great number toil with little return. Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment.


    How did the Great Depression come about? Roosevelt moved on to say that it was because

    “the rulers of the exchange of mankind’s goods have failed, through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failure, and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men…

    Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored confidence. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish.

    The money changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. The measure of the restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit… The joy and moral stimulation of work no longer must be forgotten in the mad chase of evanescent profits…

    Finally, in our progress toward a resumption of work we require two safeguards against a return of the evils of the old order; there must be a strict supervision of all banking and credits and investments; there must be an end to speculation with other people’s money, and there must be provision for an adequate but sound currency.”

    So far, so good. But Roosevelt ended up defeating his purpose by conniving with money changers and war profiteers like Churchill, and we all know by now that Churchill was under the spell of Ernest Cassel, an influential Jewish moneylender “whose loyalty was neither to party or nation, but only to profits.”[5] Churchill was known as “Cassel’s creature.”[6]


    It was inevitable that they used Churchill as a puppet to bludgeon Germany to death. And when Roosevelt collaborated with Churchill, it was again inevitable that both men would use deliberate lies and fabrications to send American and British soldiers to their ultimate death.


    In short, Churchill, Roosevelt, and the American and British soldiers who went to World War II were largely manipulated by the Powers That Be. Churchill started to propound lies by the truckload, and he passed those lies to Roosevelt, who himself put those lies in a language that was suitable to the American people. Decent Americans thought that their government was doing the right thing, but those decent Americans were being scammed. What again were some of those lies?


    Roosevelt declared:

    “I have in my possession a secret map, made in Germany by Hitler’s government—by the planners of the New World Order. It is a map of South America as Hitler proposes to reorganize it. The geographical experts of Berlin, however, have ruthlessly obliterated all the existing boundary lines … bringing the whole continent under their domination. This map makes clear the Nazi design not only against South America but against the United States as well.

    “It is a plan to abolish all existing religions—Protestant, Catholic, Mohammedan, Hindu, Buddhist and Jewish alike. … In the place of the churches of our civilization, there is to be set up an international Nazi Church…In the place of the Bible, the words of ‘Mein Kampf’ will be imposed and enforced as Holy Writ. And in place of the cross of Christ will be put two symbols—the swastika and the naked sword. … A god of blood and iron will take the place of the God of love and mercy.”

    Buchanan argues that the source of these fantasies “were forgeries by British agents in New York operating under William Stephenson, Churchill’s ‘Man Called Intrepid,’ whose assignment was to do whatever necessary to bring the U.S. into Britain’s war.”[7]


    The fact is that Hitler didn’t want a war with Britain or the United States at all.[8] But since the vast majority of Americans didn’t want the United States to get involved in a protracted conflict with Germany, the technocrats and the oligarchs had to find a way to seduce decent Americans who were struggling to put food on the table. U.S. Ambassador Clare Boothe Luce declared that Roosevelt “lied us into war because he did not have the political courage to lead us into it.”[9] Buchanan writes,

    By late 1941, most Americans still wanted to stay out of the war. They believed ‘lying British propaganda’ about Belgian babies being tossed around on German bayonets had sucked us into World War I, from which the British Empire had benefited mightily.”[10]


    Buchanan moves on to say that we all need to be aware of fake news because the Powers That Be have been using those kinds of propaganda since the beginning of time.[11] He writes, “It is often our own allies, like the Brits, and our own leaders who mislead and lie us into unnecessary wars.[12]


    Those so-called allies used fake news right before the war in Iraq,[13] which led to sodomy in places like Abu Ghraib,[14] which largely destroyed Iraq itself,[15] and which sent a six-trillion dollar bill to the American people.[16] U.S. veterans are still paying for the unintended consequences of those wars.[17]


    What is even more interesting is that the Powers That Be don’t give a flip about you or American soldiers who gave up everything, including their families, to die in useless and perpetual wars. You are not important to those people at all. What is important to them is their essentially diabolical ideology, which they always attempt to bring to fruition. As Henry Kissinger himself said:

    Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”[18]


    Kissinger seems to have something in common with one of the most influential rabbis in Israel, Ovadia Yosef, who propounded long before his death that the “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”[19] He added:

    Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”[20]


    The million-dollar question is this: will the technocrats stop using lies and malicious propaganda? Will they stop manipulating decent Americans and bringing them to their submission? The answer to that is no. In fact, they are currently using propaganda against Russia and Assad at this very moment.[21] Like John Milton’s Satan in Paradise Lost, the technocrats are basically saying, “Evil, be thou my good.”[22]


    Both Roosevelt and Churchill drew their ideology from the powers of evil in order to bludgeon England and America to death. Even during World War I, Churchill himself was happy when he learned that thousands upon thousands of German civilians were dying from the war. Churchill, like Theodore Roosevelt, took Darwin’s survival of the fittest (or Social Darwinism) very seriously.[23] Churchill declared in 1914:

    “I know this war is smashing and shattering the lives of thousands every moment—and yet—I cannot help it—I love every second I live.”[24]


    By 1919, “four months after Germany had accepted an armistice and laid down her arms,” Churchill again declared, “We are enforcing the blockade with rigour, and Germany is very near starvation.”[25]


    There is more: “When the Kaiser requested permission to buy 2.5 million tons of food, Churchill denied the request because his aim, in his own words was to ‘starve the whole population—men, women and children, old and young, wounded and sound—into submission.”[26]


    When all was said and done, about 863,000 Germans died of starvation during World War I. Churchill was largely responsible for this. But that was just the tip of the iceberg. Roosevelt allied with this man and even Stalin to commit more crimes during World War II.


    The sad part of all this is that if you crack-open a popular history book, you will more than likely read that both Roosevelt and Churchill were great leaders of the past who led much of the Western world into a freer political environment.


    In other words, it was a great thing for those two men to make a pact with Stalin, who is arguably the greatest mass murderer in the twentieth century.[27] The Bolshevik movement, as we all know, travelled to places like China under Mao, and that again ended up liquidating at least 40 million people.[28]


    The technocrats will admit that Stalin was a bad guy and that he did kill millions, but they will sweep that aside and focus on the “Holocaust uniqueness.” As one historian and Zionist friend once told me, “Sometimes you have to make a deal with the devil to defeat real evil like the Nazis.” My only response was, “Oh, I see.”







    • [1] Quoted in Thomas Fleming, The New Dealers’ War: F.D.R. and the War Within World War II (New York: Basic Books, 2001), 2.
    • [2] Ibid.
    • [3] Richard Overy, The Bombing War: Europe, 1939-1945 (New York: Penguin, 2014), preface.
    • [4] See Jonathan Alter, The Defining Moment: FDR’s Hundred Days and the Triumph of Hope (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2006).
    • [5] Cited in E. Michael Jones, Barren Metal: The History of Capitalism as the Conflict Between Labor and Usury (South Bend: Fidelity Press, 2014), 1201.
    • [6] Ibid., 1202.
    • [7] Patrick J. Buchanan, “When Fake News Leads to War,” American Conservative, December 2, 2016.
    • [8] For a study on this, see Klaus P. Fischer, Hitler and America (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 2011).
    • [9] Buchanan, “When Fake News Leads to War,” American Conservative, December 2, 2016.
    • [10] Ibid.
    • [11] For scholarly studies on this, see Christopher Simpson, Science of Coercion: Communication Research and Psychological Warfare, 1945-1960 (New York: Oxford University Press, 1996); David Talbot, The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government (New York: Harper Perennial, 2015); The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War (New York: Times Books, 2014); All the Shah’s Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror (Hoboken, NJ: Wiley & Sons, 2003 and 2008).
    • [12] Buchanan, “When Fake News Leads to War,” American Conservative, December 2, 2016.
    • [13] See John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (New York: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 2007); John J. Mearsheimer, Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics(New York: Oxford University Press, 2011); Paul R. Pillar, Intelligence and U.S. Foreign Policy: Iraq, 9/11, and Misguided Reform (New York: Columbia University Press, 2011); Bob Woodward, Plan of Attack: The Definitive Account of the Decision to Invade Iraq (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2004); Michael Isikoff and David Corn, Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War (New York: Random House, 2006).
    • [14] For similar studies, see Rebecca Gordon, Mainstreaming Torture: Ethical Approaches in the Post-9/11 United States (New York: Oxford University Press, 2014).
    • [15] See Mark Kukis, Voices from Iraq: A People’s History, 2003-2009 (New York: Columbia University Press, 2011); Dana Priest and Joe Stephens, “Secret World of U.S. Interrogation,” Washington Post, May 11, 2004; for similar reports, see Jane Mayer, “The Black Sites: A Rare Look inside the C.IA.’s Secret Interrogation Program,” New Yorker, August 13, 2007; Craig Whitlock, “Jordan’s Spy Agency: Holding Cell for the CIA,” Washington Post, December 1, 2007; Jane Mayer, The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals (New York: Anchor Books, 2009); Mark Danner, Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib, and the War on Terror (New York: New York Review of Books, 2004); George W. Bush: War Criminal?: The Bush Administration’s Liability for 269 War Crimes (Westport: Praeger Pubishers, 2009); Lila Rajiva, The Language of Empire: Abu Ghraib and the American Media (New York: Monthly Review Press, 2005).
    • [16] Ernesto Londono, “Study: Iraq, Afghan war costs to top $4 trillion,” Washington Post, March 28, 2013; Bob Dreyfuss, The $6 Trillion Wars,” The Nation, March 29, 2013; “Iraq War Cost U.S. More Than $2 Trillion, Could Grow to $6 Trillion, Says Watson Institute Study,” Huffington Post, May 14, 2013; Mark Thompson, “The $5 Trillion War on Terror,” Time, June 29, 2011; “Iraq war cost: $6 trillion. What else could have been done?,” LA Times, March 18, 2013.
    • [17] See for example “Nearly 600 US Vets At Risk for HIV, Hepatitis After Dentist Fails to Clean Tools,” Sputnik News, December 3, 2016.
    • [18]Quoted in Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, The Final Days (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1976), 194.
    • [19] Quoted in Lazar Berman, “5 of Ovadia Yosef’s most controversial quotations,” Times of Israel, October 9, 2013.
    • [20] Marcy Oster, “Sephardi leader Yosef: Non-Jews exist to serve Jews,” Jewish Telegraphic Agency, October 18, 2010; Dan Murphy, “Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, in his own words,” Christian Science Monitor, October 7, 2013.
    • [21] For a good article on this, see Finian Cunningham, “West Already Weaponizing Fake News,” Sputnik News, November 23, 2016.
    • [22] John Milton, Paradise Lost (New York: Dover Publications, 2005), 71.
    • [23] See for example David H. Burton, “Theodore Roosevelt’s Social Darwinism and Views on Imperialism,” Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol. 26, No. 1 (Jan. – March, 1965), pp. 103-118.
    • [24] Quoted in Ralph Raico, Great Wars & Great Leaders (Auburn: Ludwig von Mises Institute, 2010), 101. See also E. Michael Jones, Barren Metal: A History of Capitalism as the Conflict Between Labor and Usury (South Bend: Fidelity Press, 2014), 1210.
    • [25] Jones, Barren Metal, 1211.
    • [26] Ibid.
    • [27] For studies on these issues, see Jean-Louis Panné (Author), Andrzej Paczkowski (Author), Karel Bartosek, et. al, The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression (Harvard: Harvard University Press, 1999); Sheila Fitzpatrick, Everyday Stalinism: Ordinary Life in Extraordinary Times: Soviet Russia in the 1930s (New York: Oxford University Press, 1999); Norman M. Naimark, Stalin’s Genocide (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2010); Oleg V. Khlevniuk, Stalin: New Biography of a Dictator (New Haven: Yale University Press, 2015); Steven Rosefielde, Red Holocaust(New York: Routledge, 2010); for similar studies, see E. Michael Jones, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History (South Bend: Fidelity Press, 2008).
    • [28] Frank Dikötter, Mao’s Great Famine: The History of China’s Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-1962 (London: Bloomsbury Publishing, 2010); for similar studies, see Judith Shapiro, Mao’s War against Nature: Politics and the Environment in Revolutionary China (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2001).




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