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    Notable Germanics in History

    We have threads like Germanic Achievements and Strong Women of History, but do we have any thread that is just about notable Germanics?

    Feel free to post any Germanics who are: famous, infamous, mythical, or otherwise. Just no celebrities or movie stars who will be forgotten in 10 years from now.



    I'll start by posting some Americans.

    Benjamin Franklin

    (1706-1790)

    Of English ancestry, Franklin was a prominent figure in the American revolution, as well as a scientist, an inventor, a statesman, a printer, a philosopher, a musician, and an economist. Honored on the $100 bill, he is widely viewed today as being one of the greatest Americans.

    George Washington

    (1732-1799)

    Also of English ancestry, Washington was the first President of the United States as well as the commander in chief of the Continental Army. A plantation owner and veteran in the French and Indian War, Washington is usually regarded by most Americans to be the greatest president.

    Thomas Jefferson

    (1743-1826)

    Of Scotch-English and Welsh descent, he was the third President and one of the principal authors of the Declaration of Independence. Like Washington, Jefferson was a plantation owner from Virginia. He was a horticulturist, statesman, architect, archaeologist, paleontologist, author, inventor, and the founder of the University of Virginia. He purchased the Louisiana Territory in 1803, doubling the size of the USA.

    Daniel Boone

    (1734-1820)

    Of English and Welsh ancestry, Boone was a militia officer in the Revolutionary War. He is popular in American folklore for being a frontiersman and for creating the Wilderness Trail into Kentucky.

    Davy Crockett

    (1786-1836)

    Of English, Scots-Irish, and Huguenot ancestry, Crockett was a frontiersman and prominent figure in the Texas Revolution. He was killed at the Battle of the Alamo in 1836.

    Friedrich von Steuben

    (1730-1794)

    Born in Magdeburg, Prussia, Steuben was a general in the Revolutionary War. Steuben became an American citizen in 1784 and lived the rest of his life in New York state.

    Nathanael Greene

    (1742-1786)

    Of English Quaker ancestry, Greene is often regarded as one of the most skilled generals in the Revolutionary War.

    John Paul Jones

    (1747-1792)

    John Paul Jones was born in Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland. He was one of the most famous naval heroes of the Revolutionary War.

    Betsy Ross

    (1752-1836)

    Of English ancestry, she is well known in American folklore for being the creator of the first American flag.

    Thomas Paine

    (1737-1809)

    Born in Thetford, Norfolk, England, Thomas Paine was an author, pamphleteer, inventor, intellectual, and revolutionary. He is best know for his pamphlet "Common Sense."

    Paul Revere

    (1735-1818)

    Of English and Huguenot ancestry, Revere is known for his role as a messenger in the Battles of Lexington and Concord, where is he is attributed with saying the phrase "The British are coming!"

    Meriweather Lewis

    (1774-1809)

    Of English and Welsh ancestry, Meriweather Lewis was an explorer, soldier, and public administrator. He is best known for his role as leader in the Lewis and Clark Expedition to explore the Louisiana Territory.

    William Clark

    (1770-1838)

    Of English descent, William Clark was an explorer, soldier, Indian agent, and territorial governor. Best known for his role in the Lewis and Clark Expedition.

    Mark Twain

    (1835-1910)

    The pen name of Samuel Clemens, of English ancestry, he is considered the greatest American author. With such works as Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and The Adventures of Tom Sawyer.

    Orville Wright

    (1871-1946)

    Of English, Dutch, and German descent, he, along with his brother, created and flew the first-heavier-than-air aircraft.

    Wilbur Wright

    (1867-1912)

    The brother of Orville Wright (above.)

    Robert E. Lee

    (1807-1870)

    Of English ancestry, Lee was a commanding general in the Confederate army. An excellent tactician, Lee is recognized by Americans all over the nation for his noble role in the Civil War.

    George Armstrong Custer

    (1839-1876)

    Of German ancestry, Custer was a military officer who fought in the Civil War. He is remembered mostly for his roles in the Indian Wars and his defeat at the Battle of Little Bighorn.

    Edwin Hubble

    (1889-1953)

    Of English descent, Hubble was an astronomer who contributed massively to his field. He helped establish that the universe is constantly expanding. The Hubble Telescope is named in his honor.

    Thomas Edison

    (1847-1931)

    Considering himself to be of Dutch descent, Edison was an inventor who is best known for his creation of a light bulb. He also created the phonograph and motion picture camera.

    Henry Ford

    (1863-1947)

    Of English, Irish, and Belgian ancestry, Ford is known for his creation of the assembly line and Model T automobile. He also greatly increased working conditions in his factories, compared to others.

    Charles Lindbergh

    (1902-1974)

    Son of a Swedish immigrant and Anglo-American, Lindbergh was an aviation pioneer and US Army reserve officer. He was the first person to make a non-stop flight across the Atlantic ocean in his famous plane, Spirit of St. Louis. He is also known for his efforts to keep America out of WWII, and the kidnapping and murdering of his infant son.

    Amelia Earhart

    (1897-1937)

    Of German descent, Amelia was the first female to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean. She set many aviation records, and disappeared in the Pacific Ocean while attempting to circumnavigate the globe.

    Chuck Yeager

    (b. 1923)

    Another aviation pioneer of German heritage, Yeager was the first person to fly supersonic in level flight. A highly decorated general in the Air Force, he served in WWII and the Vietnam War.

    Alan Shepard

    (1923-1988)

    Of Anglo-American heritage, Shepard became the first American and second person in space in 1961. He was also the fifth person on the moon.

    John Glenn

    (b. 1921)

    Of Anglo-Scotch and German ancestors, Glenn was the first American and third person to orbit the Earth and fifth person in space in 1962. He also served in WWII and the Korean War.

    Neil Armstrong

    (b. 1930)

    Of Scots-Irish and German descent, he was the first person to set foot on the moon in 1969.

    Buzz Aldrin

    (b. 1930)

    Of Scottish, Swedish, and German ancestry, he was the second person to set foot on the moon.

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    I was watching a show about the Old West and outlaws, and it's surprising how many Americans came to fame in this era.


    Wyatt Earp

    (1848–1929)

    Of English ancestry, Earp was a peace officer in various Western frontier towns, farmer, buffalo hunter, gambler, saloon-keeper, miner and boxing referee. He is best known for his participation in the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral, along with Doc Holliday, and two of his brothers.

    Doc Holliday

    (1851-1887)

    Of Anglo-American ancestry, Doc Holliday was a gambler, gunfighter and dentist best remembered for his participation at the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral.

    Butch Cassidy

    (1866-1908)

    Of English and Scottish descent, Cassidy was a train robber, bank robber, and leader of the Wild Bunch Gang.

    Jesse James

    (1847-1882)

    Of English and Welsh ancestry, Jesse James is arguably the most famous Old Western outlaw. He was a gang leader, bank robber, train robber, and murderer.

    Buffalo Bill

    (1846-1917)

    Not an outlaw, but an important figure in Old West history, Buffalo Bill was of English Quaker ancestry. He was a soldier, bison hunter and showman. 'Buffalo Bill's Wild West' was one of the most popular shows in its time.

    Annie Oakley

    (1860-1926)

    Like Buffalo Bill, she was a law abiding citizen of English Quaker descent. She was a sharpshooter and exhibition shooter who participated in Buffalo Bill's Wild West shows. She could reputedly split a playing card edge-on and put five or six more holes in it before it touched the ground.

    Bonnie and Clyde

    (1910-1934); (1909-1934)

    Not of the Wild West era, but famous outlaws who came out of the Great Depression. Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow were of Anglo-American descent, and notorious for their bank robberies. In a time where many people felt the government and banks had purposely turned on them, Bonnie and Clyde were seen as heroes by some.

    John Dillinger

    (1903-1934)

    Another depression era bank robber, Dillinger was of German ancestry. Dillinger achieved fame for the number of his robberies, leading to his being called "Public Enemy Number 1" by the FBI.

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    I think there are too many Germanics to list. We pretty much dominate American history & history in Northwestern Europe.

    Take the all of the US presidents for example. The only 2 who were not Germanic were Kennedy & Obama. Most were English, Scots or Protestant Irish descent, including the 2 Roosevelts, in spite of the Dutch surname. Van Buren was Dutch, Hoover was of Swiss-German descent paternally & Eisenhower was German. Most presidential tickets with non-Wasps failed. Goldwater (1/2 Jew) in 1964, Dukakis in 1988, Gore-Lieberman in 2000 & Kerry (1/2 Jew in spite of the Irish name) in 2004. Kennedy in 1960, Nixon-Agnew in 1968 & 1972 (Agnew was 1/2 Greek on his father's side, the only non-Germanic VP) & Obama are the exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    I think there are too many Germanics to list. We pretty much dominate American history & history in Northwestern Europe.
    We'll just have to list them all then

    What inspired me to make this thread was the South African Myths & Legends thread. It showed me that there were so many culturally significant things about the other Germanic nations that I did not know.

    I'm sure there are plenty of non-American members (and maybe even some Americans!) who have never heard of some of the people I listed. I hoped that we could all get to know each other's history/culture better by posting those people that not everyone has heard of, but are of great cultural significance.

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    Godfrey of Bouillon.

    My favorite Germanic Christian hero, next to Charles the Hammer (Martel).



    Peter the Hermit.



    Bohemond of Taranto.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemund_of_Taranto

    Robert II, of Flanders.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_...nt_of_Flanders



    Stephen II, of Blois.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen,_Count_of_Blois

    Robert Curthose. Duke of Normandy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Curthose



    William the Conqueror.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_England

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    Bonnie and Clyde


    (1910-1934); (1909-1934)

    Not of the Wild West era, but famous outlaws who came out of the Great Depression. Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow were of Anglo-American descent, and notorious for their bank robberies. In a time where many people felt the government and banks had purposely turned on them, Bonnie and Clyde were seen as heroes by some.

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    Clyde Champion Barrow and his companion, Bonnie Parker, were shot to death by officers in an ambush near Sailes, Bienville Parish, Louisiana on May 23, 1934, after one of the most colorful and spectacular manhunts the nation had seen up to that time.


    Barrow was suspected of numerous killings and was wanted for murder, robbery, and state charges of kidnapping.


    The FBI, then called the Bureau of Investigation, became interested in Barrow and his paramour late in December 1932 through a singular bit of evidence. A Ford automobile, which had been stolen in Pawhuska, Oklahoma, was found abandoned near Jackson, Michigan in September of that year. At Pawhuska, it was learned another Ford car had been abandoned there which had been stolen in Illinois. A search of this car revealed it had been occupied by a man and a woman, indicated by abandoned articles therein. In this car was found a prescription bottle, which led special agents to a drug store in Nacogdoches, Texas, where investigation disclosed the woman for whom the prescription had been filled was Clyde Barrow’s aunt.


    Further investigation revealed that the woman who obtained the prescription had been visited recently by Clyde Barrow, Bonnie Parker, and Clyde’s brother, L. C. Barrow. It also was learned that these three were driving a Ford car, identified as the one stolen in Illinois. It was further shown that L. C. Barrow had secured the empty prescription bottle from a son of the woman who had originally obtained it.


    On May 20, 1933, the United States Commissioner at Dallas, Texas, issued a warrant against Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, charging them with the interstate transportation, from Dallas to Oklahoma, of the automobile stolen in Illinois. The FBI then started its hunt for this elusive pair.


    Background

    Bonnie and Clyde met in Texas in January, 1930. At the time, Bonnie was 19 and married to an imprisoned murderer; Clyde was 21 and unmarried. Soon after, he was arrested for a burglary and sent to jail. He escaped, using a gun Bonnie had smuggled to him, was recaptured and was sent back to prison. Clyde was paroled in February 1932, rejoined Bonnie, and resumed a life of crime.


    In addition to the automobile theft charge, Bonnie and Clyde were suspects in other crimes. At the time they were killed in 1934, they were believed to have committed 13 murders and several robberies and burglaries. Barrow, for example, was suspected of murdering two police officers at Joplin, Missouri and kidnapping a man and a woman in rural Louisiana. He released them near Waldo, Texas. Numerous sightings followed, linking this pair with bank robberies and automobile thefts. Clyde allegedly murdered a man at Hillsboro, Texas; committed robberies at Lufkin and Dallas, Texas; murdered one sheriff and wounded another at Stringtown, Oklahoma; kidnaped a deputy at Carlsbad, New Mexico; stole an automobile at Victoria, Texas; attempted to murder a deputy at Wharton, Texas; committed murder and robbery at Abilene and Sherman, Texas; committed murder at Dallas, Texas; abducted a sheriff and the chief of police at Wellington, Texas; and committed murder at Joplin and Columbia, Missouri.


    The Crime Spree Begins

    Later in 1932, Bonnie and Clyde began travelling with Raymond Hamilton, a young gunman. Hamilton left them several months later and was replaced by William Daniel Jones in November 1932.


    Ivan M. “Buck” Barrow, brother of Clyde, was released from the Texas State Prison on March 23, 1933, having been granted a full pardon by the governor. He quickly joined Clyde, bringing his wife, Blanche, so the group now numbered five persons. This gang embarked upon a series of bold robberies which made headlines across the country. They escaped capture in various encounters with the law. However, their activities made law enforcement efforts to apprehend them even more intense. During a shootout with police in Iowa on July 29, 1933, Buck Barrow was fatally wounded and Blanche was captured. Jones, who was frequently mistaken for “Pretty Boy” Floyd, was captured in November 1933 in Houston, Texas by the sheriff’s office. Bonnie and Clyde went on together.





    On November 22, 1933, a trap was set by the Dallas, Texas sheriff and his deputies in an attempt to capture Bonnie and Clyde near Grand Prairie, Texas, but the couple escaped the officer’s gunfire. They held up an attorney on the highway and took his car, which they abandoned at Miami, Oklahoma. On December 21, 1933, Bonnie and Clyde held up and robbed a citizen at Shreveport, Louisiana.


    On January 16, 1934, five prisoners, including Raymond Hamilton (who was serving sentences totaling more than 200 years), were liberated from the Eastham State Prison Farm at Waldo, Texas by Clyde Barrow, accompanied by Bonnie Parker. Two guards were shot by the escaping prisoners with automatic pistols, which had been previously concealed in a ditch by Barrow. As the prisoners ran, Barrow covered their retreat with bursts of machine-gun fire. Among the escapees was Henry Methvin of Louisiana.


    The Last Months

    On April 1, 1934, Bonnie and Clyde encountered two young highway patrolmen near Grapevine, Texas. Before the officers could draw their guns, they were shot. On April 6, 1934, a constable at Miami, Oklahoma fell mortally wounded by Bonnie and Clyde, who also abducted a police chief, whom they wounded.





    The FBI had jurisdiction solely on the charge of transporting a stolen automobile, although the activities of the Bureau agents were vigorous and ceaseless. Every clue was followed. “Wanted notices” furnishing fingerprints, photograph, description, criminal record, and other data were distributed to all officers. The agents followed the trail through many states and into various haunts of the Barrow gang, particularly Louisiana. The association with Henry Methvin and the Methvin family of Louisiana was discovered by FBI agents, and they found that Bonnie and Clyde had been driving a car stolen in New Orleans.


    On April 13, 1934, an FBI agent, through investigation in the vicinity of Ruston, Louisiana, obtained information which definitely placed Bonnie and Clyde in a remote section southwest of that community. The home of the Methvins was not far away, and the agent learned of visits there by Bonnie and Clyde. Special agents in Texas had learned that Clyde and his companion had been travelling from Texas to Louisiana, sometimes accompanied by Henry Methvin.


    The FBI and local law enforcement authorities in Louisiana and Texas concentrated on apprehending Bonnie and Clyde, whom they strongly believed to be in the area. It was learned that Bonnie and Clyde, with some of the Methvins, had staged a party at Black Lake, Louisiana on the night of May 21, 1934 and were due to return to the area two days later.






    Before dawn on May 23, 1934, a posse composed of police officers from Louisiana and Texas, including Texas Ranger Frank Hamer, concealed themselves in bushes along the highway near Sailes, Louisiana. In the early daylight, Bonnie and Clyde appeared in an automobile and when they attempted to drive away, the officers opened fire. Bonnie and Clyde were killed instantly.



    VETERANS TODAY:86 Years Ago Today: Bonnie & Clyde Ambushed & Killed

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