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    Book | Lincoln Sought to Deport Freed Slaves

    The Great Emancipator was almost the Great Colonizer: Newly released documents show that to a greater degree than historians had previously known, President Lincoln laid the groundwork to ship freed slaves overseasto help prevent racial strife in the U.S.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-freed-slaves/

    I recommend watching the film "The Birth of a Nation".
    There is a scene of two former Unionists who open their cabin door to invite a group of Southerners inside after the latter were being chased by freed slaves or Northerners.One of the men said something along the lines of "We're with you.If only we would've known before".

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    Perhaps this was among the real reasons he was assassinated? Jews were already an influential force here during Lincoln's time.
    I have often thought that one of the intended purposes of the civil war was to integrate American society.
    People tend to think that is a more recent phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Perhaps this was among the real reasons he was assassinated? Jews were already an influential force here during Lincoln's time.
    I have often thought that one of the intended purposes of the civil war was to integrate American society.
    People tend to think that is a more recent phenomenon.
    This was certainly not on the agenda of any of the official belligerents. If the Jews had any organization, they certainly did not have much influence over things; the politicians and the people were against integration for a deal of time after the Civil War as well.



    Anyway, this is no big news, it has been known for a while. Presidents from Monroe (purchased what was to become Liberia, for 'free Negroes') to Lincoln (quote below), and many before, in between, and after, agreed that the future of the 'American Negro' was back in his African homeland.

    In an October 16, 1854 speech at Peoria, Illinois (transcribed after the fact by Lincoln himself), Lincoln points out the immense difficulties of such a task are an obstacle to finding an easy way to quickly end slavery.
    My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,—to their own native land. But a moment’s reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible.
    (What he means in this quote is that ending slavery opened a can of worms with all these new 'free Negroes' and no resources or locations to send them.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilderinc View Post
    This was certainly not on the agenda of any of the official belligerents.
    When considering our enemies, we must understand that they ALWAYS have an unofficial version of how they intend to carry things out.

    If the Jews had any organization, they certainly did not have much influence over things...
    Do you have any evidence that they didn't?

    Here is an excerpt I have had in my archives for some time now.
    It would seem to shed a little light on this matter:

    "One of the most destructive atrocities that the Jews inflict upon the young American republic was the perpetrating of the War Between the States, raging between 1861 and 1865. The cause of that fratricidal war was neither the issue of slavery, nor was it the desire of the Southern states to secede. It was something altogether different, something our history books have never, never mentioned.

    Between the decades of 1820 and 1860, due to climate, soil, the cotton economy and other factors, a tremendous economic expansion was taking place in the Southern states. Led by the plantation owners, a significant new aristocracy of landowners and millionaires was evolving at a healthy growth in this area. Along with this tremendous expansion, a genuine American tradition, a way of life was being established. It embodied all the best aspects of the classical civilizations of Rome and Greece, and in fact much of the architecture was fashioned after the Classical era. Many of the cities such as Athens, Rome, Atlanta, Augusta, Alexandria and others were named after their counterparts in classical ancient history. A fine new culture was developing, the best of its kind, in the New World.

    With it a large new group of millionaires was suddenly being created. Even a small city like Natchez, Mississippi had more millionaires than any other city in the United States except for New York and a few others. A similar situation existed in Atlanta, Richmond, New Orleans, and in general, spread over most of the Southern states. They were in fact, extremely prosperous. At the bottom of most of the newly created millionaires was the cotton economy.

    The most significant fact about these newly rich millionaires was that they were mostly all Anglo-Saxon. It took a spirit of brash adventure, a tremendous amount of energy and work to blaze new trails in the virgin lands and build a large and profitable cotton plantation. This the White Man did with a zeal. It was the White Man at his best. In this the Jew did not participate, since pioneering and blazing a wilderness is not his stock-in-trade.

    With the tremendous amount of new wealth that was created by the White Anglo-Saxons of the South also came financial power and political power that foreboded a serious threat to the Jewish financial power of the Eastern seaboard. And herein lies the real cause of the Civil War.

    The Jew foresaw in the new White Anglo-Saxon aristocracy of the South a serious potential threat to his financial and political stranglehold, not only over America, but over England and the rest of the world as well. The Jew determined that this power must not only be broken, but it must be demolished. The best way to do it, as usual, was to divide up the White Race into two factions, invent some idiotic, spurious issue, incite them to war, and have them slaughter each other. This the Jew did with a fury unmatched in American history.

    Whereas neither the Whites of the North, nor of the South really cared a whit about the black man as such, nevertheless, through clever manipulation of propaganda and the levers of government, a war that the Jews had planned for years was actually brought about.

    It was a ghastly, vicious and cruel war. On the Union side, the men killed in battle, dying from wounds, disease, and from other causes added up to a total of 359,528 dead. The Union side also had another 281,881 wounded and maimed. On the Confederate side a total of over 259,000 were killed and the number wounded was never even recorded. Altogether this amounted to almost 1,000,000 casualties in a young nation that in the 60's had a population of only approximately 32,000,000. This is a ghastly toll, but it only tells part of the story.

    While the flower of America's young manhood was being slaughtered and maimed, the Jews were financing both the North and the South with huge loans. The House of Rothchild, then, as now, the aristocrats of worldwide Jewish banking, had their agents strongly implanted in both the governments of the North and of the South. In the North they had their man, August Belmont, a Jew, who, in league with Samuel B. Chase, the Secretary of the Treasury, was in charge of the Rothchild interests. In the South the Rothchilds had Juda P. Benjamin, a Jew and a relative of the Rothchild family, as Secretary of the Treasury for the Confederacy.

    Abraham Lincoln tried to by-pass the Jewish bankers and issued 346,000,000 dollars of interest free national currency called "greenbacks." This the Jewish banking houses viewed with great alarm. They knew that should this become an established precedent that the government could furnish its own money without interest, this would be followed by other countries and they would be out of business. They brought to bear all their tremendous power to have this stopped, and for this reason, they had Lincoln assassinated by another Jew whose family name was not Booth but Botha.

    The end of the Civil War was by no means the end of this horrible exercise in self-destruction. The Jews were determined to smash the South once and for all and they went about it with a vengeance. Even before the war was over, but the South was already defeated, they engaged in a wanton program of destruction that had absolutely no necessity in military strategy whatsoever. They had Sherman cut a swath 60 miles wide from Atlanta to the sea, the heart of the wealth of the Southern Confederacy, and burn, pillage and demolish every piece of physical asset that the White Man had built over the years. From there the destroyers turned north into South Carolina and continued to cut a broad swath of destruction, terror and wanton annihilation.

    When the War was over the destruction was pursued with an intensified fury. The South's commerce and financial structure had been utterly demolished. Northern carpet-bagger Jews came in and bought up properties and plantations that were worth hundreds of thousands before the War, now due to the bankruptcy of the Southern economy, could now be bought up in many cases for a couple of hundred dollars. Just as in Germany after World War I, when the Jews had brought that country to its knees in bankruptcy, the Jews now swarmed into the South, and for a few cents on the dollar they bought up all the valuable properties that were formerly owned by the Anglo-Saxon White Man.

    Nor was this the end of their diabolical program of destruction. With Union army bayonets to back them up, they were now determined to not only make the newly liberated ****** the equal of the white Southerner, but they were determined to make him his overlord. The White male population was completely disenfranchised (women still couldn't vote in any case), under the excuse that it had been in rebellion to the American government. Under the leadership of carpet-bagger Jews, the ******s were now the only ones who had the right to vote and they became legislators, senators, governors, judges, and in short, were the Jews' stooges for political power in the South. White women were molested and attacked by the newly released savage mob of black animals, and the White Man had absolutely no governmental protection whatsoever. The Jew, then as now, launched a massive drive to promote the mongrelization of the races in the former Confederate States.

    It was through the heroic efforts of the White Man organizing through the newly formed Ku Klux Klan that he finally regained freedom and political power again. One of the most shameful and miserable periods in the history of America was endured by the South during its so-called reconstruction days, a period that was not really so much devoted to reconstruction as it was to looting the White population, and consolidating the power of the Jews in an area that had previously been dominated by the creative and prosperous White Man.

    It took some states 15 to 20 years to again free themselves from under the heel of the Jewish tyranny. When they finally did drive the ******s from power and gained control of their own Legislatures again, the South was still a broken and impoverished area. Even today, after one hundred years, the South has never regained the financial or political position that it had previous to the Civil War. Even today, the South, still being the stronghold of White resistance against mongrelization, is the hated target of the Jewish conspiracy. It is against the South that the Jews are directing their most vicious programs of school-busing, and the most persistent attacks against the White Man himself."


    ...the politicians and the people were against integration for a deal of time after the Civil War as well.
    The politicians have always been lackeys for those who are REALLY in power.
    They are elected so that those who do the behind-the-scenes wheeling and dealing can do so without fear of reprisal or interruption. While the sheep spit on the politicians(Who don't seem to mind being spat on) the jewish machinations continue unabated.
    It did not matter if the "the people" or the politicians cared or not. America was already well out of their hands by this time.

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    Back to Africa Movement

    Many Abolitionists throughout the North firmly believed that the Negro could never be integrated into White Society. Old Abe among them. So the rise of the "Back to Africa Movement". Which would provide ships agratis to former slaves. Many took the offer and returned, establishing the Nation of Liberia which still exists today.

    The Emancipation issue was a legal action against a peculiar and evil legal institution (slavery)that was and is odious to any and all notions of a Democratic Republic. Even with that, many regiments raised in the Midwest believed in the idea of, "Union Yes, Emancipation No", yet they continued to fight for Union and eventually prevailed and preserved the Union known today as the United States...

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    Abraham Lincoln 'Wanted to Deport Slaves' to New Colonies

    Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship freed black slaves away from the US to British colonies in the Caribbean even in the final months of his life, it has emerged.

    A new book on the celebrated US president and hero of the anti-slavery movement, who was born 202 years ago on Saturday, argues that he went on supporting the highly controversial policy of colonisation.

    It was favoured by US politicians who did not believe free black people should live among white Americans, and had been backed by prominent abolitionists like Henry Clay as far back as 1816.

    Mr Lincoln also favoured the idea. But he was believed to have denounced it after signing the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed of most of America’s four million slaves, in January 1863.

    The notion that he came to regard it as unacceptable contributed to the legend of the 16th president, who is frequently voted America’s greatest, and is held by some to have left an impeccable record.

    Yet Phillip Magness and Sebastian Page, the authors of Colonisation After Emancipation, discovered documents in the National Archives in Kew and in the US that will significantly alter his legacy.

    They found an order from Mr Lincoln in June 1863 authorising a British colonial agent, John Hodge, to recruit freed slaves to be sent to colonies in what are now the countries of Guyana and Belize.

    “Hodge reported back to a British minister that Lincoln said it was his ‘honest desire’ that this emigration went ahead,” said Mr Page, a historian at Oxford University.

    The plan came despite an earlier test shipment of about 450 freed slaves to Haiti resulting in disaster. The former slaves were struck by smallpox and starvation, and survivors had to be rescued.

    Mr Lincoln also considered sending freed slaves to what is now Panama, to construct a canal — decades before work began on the modern canal there in 1904.

    The colonisation plan collapsed by 1864. The British were fearful the confederate states of the American south may win the civil war, reverse emancipation, and regard British agents as thieves. Congress also voted to remove funding.

    Yet as late as that autumn, a letter sent to the president by his attorney-general showed he was still actively exploring whether the policy could be implemented, Mr Page said.

    “It says ‘further to your question, yes, I think you can still pursue this policy of colonisation even though the money has been taken away’,” he said.

    Mr Lincoln was assassinated in April 1865.

    Dr Magness said the book would change readers’ views of Mr Lincoln. Amid sharp political division, he is repeatedly championed by modern-day politicians, including Barack Obama, as a great unifier.

    “Looking back from modern perspectives, we see colonisation as a very bigoted idea,” said Dr Magness, of the American University in Washington.

    “So it’s a tough issue to integrate in to Lincoln’s story.

    “It’s a tough racial issue, and it raises a lot of emotional issues. It doesn’t mesh well with the emancipation legacy, and it doesn’t mesh well with Lincoln’s image as an iconic figure.”


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    I will say something here because I have an interest in our civil war from 1861-65. I think if we had done something for slaves after the civil war maybe gave them a new homeland maybe most of the slaves would of have left for the new homeland. Probably the KKK would not of have been formed because there would not of been a need for such an organization,started by Nathan Bedford Forrest right after the civil war. There would not of been a civil rights struggle for a hundred years after the war between the states. There would not of been a mass movement of blacks to the northern cities like once proud Detroit, Philadelphia, and New York City in the early 20th century. Blacks could of had there own country to be proud of instead of feeling bitter about america to this day from the slave days. today would be different,too. Maybe our drug problem would not be so bad. Crime would be lower. No idiotic rap music culture would be here. Maybe the united states could be more like europe today instead of drifting away from europe as far as culture is concerned. Maybe the muslims would go to the black country and not to white america. We could call the new land black soul land of america.

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    Had this of happened, I wonder if these Blacks having seen how a Civilization really worked would have started the creation of proper nations in Africa or just reverted to their "natural state". Either way it would have been a lot better for the U.S and the world in general. No blues, therefore no Rock n' Roll to promote the counter culture of the 60's, no rap music to further add fuel to the fire. - I actually love Rock music but really between a culture similar to that of my ancestors and now, I can love without Rock! - Which we would have created in our own way regardless!

    No race riots, movements etc. No Affrimative action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balders gate View Post
    I think if we had done something for slaves after the civil war maybe gave them a new homeland maybe most of the slaves would of have left for the new homeland.
    The only appropriate "new homeland" would have been to send them back to africa.

    Probably the KKK would not of have been formed because there would not of been a need for such an organization,started by Nathan Bedford Forrest right after the civil war.
    Even with enforced expulsion it would have taken many years to remove the four million-plus former slaves.
    That means the necessity of the KKK would have still been needed, since the naturally savage instinct of the negro would have manifested with his new-found freedom.

    When they became free they attacked almost exclusively those Whites who never even owned a slave.
    The former slave owners were free from attack since they were still wealthy enough to protect themselves.
    A very small percentage of Whites ever owned slaves in the first place, but the history books and hollywood try to make it sound as if all of them did. This is how they induced blacks to think that all Whites are "White devils".
    It is completely unjustified that most Whites are demonized because of the actions of a few.

    They should have been sent back to africa while they were still slaves, very slowly and a little at a time.
    I am sure there must have been quite a few who saw the writing on the wall.
    Throughout history the slaves will always revolt.

    There would not of been a civil rights struggle for a hundred years after the war between the states.
    There would have NEVER been a civil rights movement if we had shipped them all out in the first place.
    Besides, the abolitionists certainly count as a form of "civil rights struggle" to me.
    In fact they were just as destructive to Whites in their own era as modern lib-tards have been to our own in promoting these savages as equals.

    Blacks could of had there own country to be proud of instead of feeling bitter about america to this day from the slave days.
    Anytime blacks have been given the chance to rule over their own land they have ALWAYS destroyed the civilized achievements left behind by Whites. You should read the history of Haiti from 1791 onward. It will make your hair stand on end when you read some of the stories about what those negroes did to the White population, particularly the women.
    They would have turned their new homeland into a squalid hel just as easily as they did to Detroit and jamaica.
    But, like most people who are incapable of making a contribution they will always try to blame someone else for their own shortcomings.
    They would have blamed America, as well as Europe anyway, regardless.

    Also, we would have had to enforced this expulsion since many thousands of former slaves would surely have protested.
    The only way to prevent integration would have been to remove all of them.
    The expelled negroes would never forget that and would have passed their resentment down to following generations.

    Maybe the united states could be more like europe today instead of drifting away from europe as far as culture is concerned.
    How is modern Europe any better off than modern America?

    Maybe the muslims would go to the black country and not to white america.
    The muzzies are not interested in keeping to themselves and never will be.
    Wherever they go it is with the intention of spreading muslim influence and territory.
    They will not leave until both Europe as well as America have been subjugated.

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    The notion that he came to regard it as unacceptable contributed to the legend of the 16th president, who is frequently voted America’s greatest, and is held by some to have left an impeccable record.
    Lincoln is only regarded as the greatest by White Americans. I have never had the impression that Negroes held Lincoln in any sort of regard. They don't dislike like him, they just don't give a damn about him. Notice that after the Civil War many former slaves took the surnames of former slave holding presidents Washington, Jefferson & Jackson as their own. none took Lincoln. And this was just after the war had ended, Lincoln was assassinated & the slaves freed!

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