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    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer
    National Socialism was very much a thing of its geographic location and time. Simply put, NS just doesn't translate well into other non-German White cultures.
    Empirical proof tells us otherwise. Japan is national-socialist, Russia is full of NS-groups with a lot of support, and until the late 70s early/ 80s, breaking down only in the wake of the end of the Cold War, Scandinavia was national-socialist too. Even Germany to a degree, despite that no one would have called it that.

    And NS, while it may be a result of the developments of that time, is not time-bound. Its concrete implementation was and its actions, the ideology itself is only our racial instinct translated into politics that secure our race and our cultures against globalist imperialism. As such, NS is a necessity for our future, and certainly not an outlived concept.

    It only doesnt translate well into the Anglo-Sphere, and especially America. But even there are a lot of people who support NS. I've read just some days ago that in some state (forgot which one) an open NS guy got some 30 percent of the votes, a remarkable result.
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    Yes, neo-nazis are fools who are trying to rehabilitate an ideology that not only can not be rehabilitated but actually doesn't need to be.

    There are many more in men in European history far more worthy of veneration than a failed Austrian painter.

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    There are many more in men in European history far more worthy of veneration than a failed Austrian painter.
    Please give us some examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    Please give us some examples.
    Here are just a few: Charles Martel, Charlemagne, Sobieski, Admiral Nelson, Francisco Franco, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckelf View Post
    Here are just a few: Charles Martel, Charlemagne, Sobieski, Admiral Nelson, Francisco Franco, etc.
    I would add Mosley to that list as well. While I found his collectivist tendencies to be a bit unsound, I think his vision for the future of Britain would have certainly been a sounder one than Churchill's.
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    Exactly the same criticisms that you could level at a 'neo-nazi' could be levelled at for instance the average member of a social democratic party; association with historical mass murder (unrepentant marxists), association with street thugs (unions engaged in bashing scabs) and so on...

    Despite this, they remain completely untainted by their association, because they are not the media's enemy.

    Constantly trying to condemn and distance yourself from national socialism fails, because all the media has to do is to call you a nazi and you instantly look like a hypocrite. Look at this shooter in Norway, everything he wrote is thoroughly anti-nazi, but he is still called a neo-nazi.

    P.S.
    I can understand the others, but what on earth did Franco do, other than take the living, real movement of di Rivera and turn it into a tinpot South American style dictatorship that collapsed on his death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witta View Post
    Do you agree with this statement?

    In my experience they represent either the bottom end of the intelligence scale or the youth wing, they have no concept of being out of their depth or when to shut up, and they discredit everything nationalists are trying to say. There are more documentaries made about Neo-Nazis than any other form of nationalist, because liberal documentary makers know they make nationalism look bad.
    Before we can discuss this you will have to explain to me what neo nazis are. I try to understand what they are from reading the newspaper, but there it seems any dissident is a neo nazi. I am sure I don't know any neo nazis.

    Please explain their political plattform and what sort of society they want to build? Have they written any sort of political program, manifest or books that I can buy to get an idea? I am thinking about something like the writings of Ayn Rand, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Joseph Goebbels, Gottfried Feder or Adolf Hitler?

    Or is their role maybe written by the manuscript writer that wrote all the episodes of Seinfeld?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
    I would add Mosley to that list as well. While I found his collectivist tendencies to be a bit unsound, I think his vision for the future of Britain would have certainly been a sounder one than Churchill's.
    I am naming men who did something in history, great men who shaped it and changed our history forever.

    What did Mosley do rather than just say which is so important?


    Quote Originally Posted by ampersand View Post
    P.S. I can understand the others, but what on earth did Franco do, other than take the living, real movement of di Rivera and turn it into a tinpot South American style dictatorship that collapsed on his death?
    He and his generals defeated communism in Spain and dealt the reds a vicious blow that would help keep them out of Western Europe.

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    I'm not inclined to defend Hitler, but I think the whole "failed painter" argument is pretty lame. Regardless of what failings he may have had during his youth, he still rose to become the leader of the Third Reich. He accomplished this by becoming a master of oratory and manipulating people to do his bidding. The fact that he never became an accomplished painter--if you look at his work, though, it was still above average--is completely irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duckelf View Post
    Yes, neo-nazis are fools who are trying to rehabilitate an ideology that not only can not be rehabilitated but actually doesn't need to be.

    There are many more in men in European history far more worthy of veneration than a failed Austrian painter.

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    I hate to say it, but I actually have to agree with this guy for once.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
    Well the failed Silvershirt movement certainly proved that.

    National Socialism was very much a thing of its geographic location and time. Simply put, NS just doesn't translate well into other non-German White cultures.

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