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    Re: Paleo-Atlantid vs. North-Atlantid

    Which is the physical difference between a Paleo-Atlantid and a Atlantid with Cromagnid mixture?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenlivet View Post
    Palaeo-Atlantid or Old Atlantid is in Lundman's terms a Cro-Magnoid derivative, nowadays pushed aside by other physical types. It is a long-headed and robust proto-morphic/archaic, broad-faced, a more or less dark human type that is spread here and there in Western Europe, including Inner Scandinavia where it is called Tydal, and as a "racial island" in Western Ireland. In a racial map by Biasutti one can see an archaic region in Southern Wales. I assume that such phenotypes as Catherine-Zeta Jones can be ascribed to that.

    The Tydal is bigger and lighter (Nordid admixture?) and the Berid darker and smaller. The latter is more common in Southwestern Europe (mainly Northern Spain and Southern France, but is also present in Northern Portugal and Northwestern Africa).

    North-Atlantid is not by Coon. It is a leaner type, more progressive looking, and Mediterranoid or Nordoid, not proto-Europoid like the above mentioned type. Lundman must consider it more Nordoid as he put it in his Nordid category under the light group of long-headed, Atlantic, western, low skulled (poor in blood allele q), among the (west)-Nordid types, where we find Trönder (mostly Central Norway and Eastern Sweden), Västmanland (which according to Lundman can be considered a variety of the robust Phalian, the Västmanland is predominant in Västmaland, but also common in Värmland and Närke), Göta (predominant in Västergötland and SE Norway), Phalian (falina or väst-faliska common which is common in NW Germany and also southernmost Norway).

    Lundman define North-Atlantid as an "intermediary race" between Nordids (of Göta type) and Insulars." Distribution and appearance of this often light-eyed and big-bodied type is probably similar to the definition of Coon's often blue-eyed Atlanto-Mediterranid in the western (oceanic) parts of the British Isles. Lundman speculate that the darker colouration is either due to the less cold and damp climate or because of contact with the more pigmented European races.

    I believe that Robbie Williams (see attached picture) have Palaeo-Atlantid facial features and British MP's Alan Campbell and Michael Foster (see attached picture), Montgomery Clift, Rock Hudson, Jason London and Pierce Brosnan have North-Atlantid traits. North-Atlantid is basically fit in the saying about Northwestern European tall, dark (relatively compared to a blonder surrounding!) and handsome men that were quite common on the silver screen during the 60's or another similar classic period. Often times one could see them besides a Phalian or Anglo-Saxon woman like Doris Day.

    Compared to where Phalian and Scando-Nordid predominate for the North-Atlantid there's also a higher frequency of blood type gene r and a lower frequency of p.
    You are wrong, I am afraid! The North-Atlantid is indeed a predominantly Nordid (Keltic Iron Age variety) type with Atlantid admixture. Many have confused the Atlantid with the North-Atlantid strains. The difference is that the Atlantid is intermediate between the Nordid and the Atlanto-Mediterranid, while the North-Atlantid isn't. The Paleo-Atlantid is different, because it is a Cromagnid type related to the Dalofaelid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germaniathane View Post
    You are wrong, I am afraid! The North-Atlantid is indeed a predominantly Nordid (Keltic Iron Age variety) type with Atlantid admixture. Many have confused the Atlantid with the North-Atlantid strains. The difference is that the Atlantid is intermediate between the Nordid and the Atlanto-Mediterranid, while the North-Atlantid isn't. The Paleo-Atlantid is different, because it is a Cromagnid type related to the Dalofaelid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    Can anyone show or tell me the difference between a Paleo-Atlantid and a North-Atlantid? I use to think the only difference lied in the fact that North-Atlantids were blue eyed and Paleo-Atlantids were brown eyed, but now I read where some Paleo-Atlantids are blue eyed as well. What gives? Actually I always got the impression that Paleo-Atlantids were basically Mediterraneans, but some northern Europeans were rather skittish of admiting themselves as such, so they changed the name of their phenotype to Paleo-Atlantid to sound more Nordic. The same also goes for North-Atlantids, but I felt they were merely Mediterraneans mixed with Keltic Nordics. Am I wrong? If I am then why aren't blue-eyed Paleo-Atlantids not classified as Atlanto-Mediterraneans? Can Paleo-Atlantids really be blue eyed? I must admit I find the female of both the Paleo-Atlantid and the North-Atlantid phenotypes to be especially pretty. Therefore, how about somebody giving us some information on both of these types. Some typical examples of the female variety in the form of photographs attatched to this thread would also be nice as well. Thanks!
    None of the Atlantid types are just mere Mediterranids!!! There are by the way three very distinct Atlantid types.
    1.) Atlantid ( a blend of the Atlanto-Mediterranid with the Nordid strain)
    Physical appearance:
    http://uploadir.com/u/smmpxco0

    Typically light brown in skin tone
    Typically dark brown hair
    Typically brown eyes
    Thus in pigmentation, Atlantids are typically Meds
    Nevertheless in morphology it is Nordid
    The narrow Nordid facial features are seen here.
    Medium height
    Ectomorph
    The nose is straight and leptorrhine
    This phenotype is an intermediate between the North-Atlantid and the Atlanto-Mediterranid. It is found all over Western Europe, especially along the coastal regions of France. This type is often mixed with Alpinids, Baskids, Dinarids and other adjacent types. It is a common French type. Thus it's safe to say that the Atlantid population is an important racial element in the regions of the Atlantic coast, common in France, West Germany and other Western European countries. Nowadays can be found in North America and Australia.

    2.) North-Atlantid ( Predominantly Nordid/Keltic Iron Age Nordid blend with Atlantid admixture)
    http://humanphenotypes.net/northatlantidf.jpg

    Pale skin sometimes ruddy or freckled
    Brown hair sometimes black or reddish
    Light eyes, often blue
    Tall stature
    Ectomorph, slightly mesomorph with relatively long arms
    Mesocephalic
    Forehead is narrow, sloping, small mandibles, malars are compressed
    The nose is hyperleptorrhine, prominent, long-tipped convex or concave
    This type forms an important racial element of the British Isles, and a principal element in parts of Ireland western Britain, in West Scotland, particularly in Wales. North-Atlantids are found throughout North-West Europe, common in North-West France, sometimes in Belgium, West Germany, Norway, Switzerland, Liguria ( North Italy), occasionally from Portugal to Galicia to Austria and Sweden.
    % estimates:
    Wales = 35%
    England = 15%
    Scotland = 10%
    Ireland = 9%

    Paleo-Atlantid (Ancient Cromagnid type of Northern and Western Europe related to Dalofaelids and Brunns)
    http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.p4...iAHaE7&pid=1.1

    Fair skin tone
    Curly/wavy, sometimes straight usually brown-black hair, occasionally red or blonde hair
    Mixed eye color
    Tall stature
    Mesomorph to endomorph with relatively long arms
    Dolicephalic, sometimes mesocephalic and very large-headed
    More robust than Dalofaelids of Central and Northern Europe with heavier brow ridges, wider and lower noses.
    Faces with darker pigmentation than Dalofaelids, bodies much hairier.
    The nose is mildly leptorrhine and often concave.
    The strongest concentration are actually in Southern Norwegian mountain valleys ( e.g. Tydal), Dalarna (Sweden), Western Scotland, Ireland and in Wales. This is an ancient race which is now dispersed throughout Western Europe well before the arrival of Kelts. Nowhere found in any great concentrations. Paleo-Atlantids also exist in Germany and France.
    % estimates:
    Wales = 30%
    England = 10%
    Scotland = 10%
    Iceland = 3%
    Ireland = 3%
    Norway = 3%

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