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    Lightbulb Japan Obsession: The Void of Western Culture

    Hello gentlemen and ladies of Skadi. I feel that I also have a confession to make, as to a "reply" to an earlier made thread. I used to be a Japanophile, I loved Japanese art, culture, music, television, basically anything that came out of that nation. I got over that about 2 years ago, although I do enjoy an occasional anime or Japanese song, I do not actively seek them out, if I stumble across one that I like, I will enjoy it, but I enjoy other things as well. I used to be obsessed with being Japanese, I wanted to learn the language (don't even try, it's god-awful difficult), move there, get citizenship, etc.

    I got over that when I realized, I am not Japanese now, nor will I ever be able to be Japanese. Yet I still wondered, why is it that so many Westerners (often teenagers), are so obsessed with Japan? Sure, they do make good music and television, and have an interesting culture, but why do we not hear teenagers humming good ol' German tunes and whatnot, especially since that actually is the culture they belong to?

    Japan in itself is quite a nice country, low rates of crime, intelligent and successful people, many emerging technologies, and a good friend of Western nations. I do respect Japan, and now enjoy their culture as an outsider with an interest, not as a wanabe-member. But why is it that so many other still feel the need to "be Japanese"?

    I think, and from my own personal experience, that the Japanese culture of today, is actually better then our current one. If you have ever watched some of the Japanese shows, they do not follow any sort of "Political Correctness", Japan is filled with 99.8% Japanese people, and almost all of that .2% is made up of other Asians. The main source of Western influence came from United States soldiers stationed throughout Japan at the end of World War Two. Somehow though, the Japanese were able to blend the two cultures very well, taking the intelligence and modernity from the West, while retaining their strict morals, and rigid behavior from their past.

    Oddly enough, I also believe we all have an innate culture, all of us Germanics feel the need to be "Germanic" (although some suppress this with the sound of the Liberal media). Yet, most youths lack the Germanic culture and upbringing, and they long to belong to a tight knit culture. Japan is almost representative of the old culture to them, they feel like they belong, and are a part of something that can and should be respected.

    Another aspect is that Japanese culture is still intelligent, and while anime is flashy and "cool", most are actually quite intelligent. I actually recommended you go and watch "Legend of the Galactic Heroes", it's the story of the 2nd German Reich surviving into the Space Era, and their war with the United Planet's Federation (Aka... France). It's intelligent, they make long discussions on the morality of war, patriotism, the value of law, corruption of democracy, nationalism, and such. The hero of the show is a German, yes, German (how rare it is), military officer in command of a battle fleet. It portrays the Germans as one of the greatest people groups. The capital of the Empire is "The Planet Odin", there is a Kasier, and is, funny enough, what I wished the world was like today.

    Anyway, beyond my rant about an excellent television show, there is nothing like that on Western Television. Most of the shows are dumbed down for us, have overused laugh-tracks, slap-stick humor, overdone plot lines, and are basically serves the same function that "Pornography and cheap alcohol for the Proletariat" served in 1984. Our media is designed to shape our views, their media is entertaining, and shows intelligent things, that provoke thought and discussion.

    Now sure, Japan is not some shinning beacon, but we need to be the "Japan" for the coming youths, we need to let them be proud of their own culture, have television, novels, media, that is intelligent, shows the true message and history of our people, and is not used to lose yourself from your life after work every night before bed.
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    Japan has qualities of a rational monoethnic society that the West lacks, although once had. How do we reestablish these qualities other than by a hostile takeover of the media, uprooting of global corporatism, and kicking all the foreigners out? A daunting task indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autosomal Viking View Post
    Japan has qualities of a rational monoethnic society that the West lacks, although once had. How do we reestablish these qualities other than by a hostile takeover of the media, uprooting of global corporatism, and kicking all the foreigners out? A daunting task indeed.
    Well what we need to do is get the support of the people. This is not World War Two, unlike then, wars were not won by making the enemy government surrendering, now, it's about making the enemy people surrender, which means mass propaganda, and large scale disinformation is better then "war".
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    Japan is populair mainly because of anime, japanese music and fashion which are all aimed mostly at teens.

    I know quite alot of these ''japan fans'' quite personally, that love everything that is japanese just because it is japanese. (aka sushi, the language, the race itself etc).

    But one thing most people don't know is that the people from japan themselves are generally way more ''western'' or even ''white'' obsessed then we are of them.

    If you look in the right places, you can find tons of women (or men) who will date you only because you are white.
    I have been in vacantion to japan before with friends, trust me for every japan fan we have they have 10 western fans.

    Also japan as a culture has its own problems that we don't, suicide rates for example because of the high social pressure.


    EDIT: This anime you recommended sounds like it has a good plot, i'm bored and now I have something to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostmane View Post
    Also japan as a culture has its own problems that we don't, suicide rates for example because of the high social pressure.
    I'd rather have higher suicide rates due to more social pressure than the problems we do have, which lead to the suicide of our entire people.

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    What does one expect when their entire national culture has been stripped of all power, territory, emblems, symbols, reproduction, and the ability to survive in flourishing?

    Of course our people will look elsewhere for social, collective, individual, and cultural identity if they find none within themselves to fill up that void.

    This is why we have so many of our people caught in social existential degeneracy trying to imitate the cultures of others and foreigners whom they've never even met because what they find is a lack of one that is their own to embrace.

    Those of us who know better as guardians of our culture and history in it's preservation must do better in putting it out there in public so that it's made available for all our brethren so that none of them grow up feeling like they don't have a identity at all.

    We must uplift one another if we are to survive.

    We must individually educate and expand the minds of our people to know their cultural history.
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    Japanese are quite numerous and most of the land (mountains) is not inhabitate. Therefore people tend to live overcrowded and search refuge in the culture in whatever form: martial art dojo, manga/anime, video games virtual worlds,...

    Moreover, Japan has its own religion whose several aspects divine Emperor, kamis cult,... are incompatible with christianity.
    A manga like "Ninja Resurrection" gives a good idea about how far fantasms concerning christianity can go..

    The samuraï is neither a knight (sepuko, allegeance to a daïmo rather a god,...) nor a berserker (cold killer ignoring rage, hate, desire for freedom).

    despite Meiji era removed it as "social caste", it is still an example to fellow.

    Personnality I like japanese artwork,... when they an occidental thema: (ex Records of Lodoss War =japanese Lord of the Rings with goblins eleves, paladin,..) but I dislike nippo-japanese one.
    Except when heroes are ninjas and by this way totally counter-example of the official culture !

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    I don't have anything against the Japanese but I do feel you are seeing their culture through rose coloured glasses.

    Their anime and music is inspired by the West and isn't that traditionally relevent to them or us. Many of their tv programs are based on humiliation via painful or embaressing acts being performed. Suicide rate is the highest in the world, birth rate is lowest in the world, they shun their own people who emigrate elsewhere.

    Whatever politeness they have is probably very strained and although I believe in manners I hate it when I feel like people are just going through the motions.

    I would like to see the West go back to its own traditions and traditional culture and regain it's sense of pride and identity rather than copy the Japanese who I feel are just as lost as we are.
    I grew up on a belief of honour, courage and the old world values. The world isn't about that anymore, preferring to die a slow death of fast food and cheap thrills.

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    Hell, I still like Japanese culture and society. I'm not a weeaboo, I'm not a big fan of anime (some are watchable), but I have a deep respect for the Japanese. Those who view them as a "racial enemy" because they're Asian is seriously disillusioned.

    Germanic peoples have more in common with them than they'd like to admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    Suicide rate is the highest in the world, birth rate is lowest in the world, they shun their own people who emigrate elsewhere.
    That's a good thing if it helps to keep emigration rates low, which are as detrimental to our societies as low birth rates. The birth rates of our countries are equally low (if theirs is lower, the difference is not significant), and at least so far they haven't given in to mass immigration. But I also fear that might change in the future, once the demographic downfall takes up pace.

    And I think their culture and media, as much trash as it might also produce, is still less affected by political correctness and guilt complexes. While we build huge memorials for jewish victims in Germany and make it almost illegal to remember our own casualties, they still honor their Yasukuni shrine despite pressure from other countries. Perhaps it helps that the Jews (and Hollywood) don't have a vengeance against them and are not entrenched in their society.

    Of course american influence also had detrimental effects on their society:


    But I think overall they're still better off.

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