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    Post Re: Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Quote Originally Posted by yamato
    scandinavians were actually considered non-white? by whom?
    If I remember correctly, Benjamin Franklin, and some other Anglo-Americans
    who only considered English people to be 'white'.

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    Post Re: Greek Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Quote Originally Posted by white_pride_forever
    Archaeological evidence gives NO assertive indication of any substantive Nordid presence in the Ancient Hellas other than the occasional sporadic 'blond, blue eyed' individual. Art work indicative of such a place and time all indicate a vast majority of Mediterranean racial mixture and composition and even the minority of blondes in Classical Greece still fell under the Mediterranean, not Nordic, racial classification.
    Yes, I don't doubt that there were some 'nordoid' types present in ancient Greece, as they are present even today. But, these people are most likely indigenous, rarely anyone would consider these people to look 'northern European'. Then, there are populations like those in N.Greece or Montenegro which are basically unreduced Cro-Magnoid.

    Blonde and red hairs are pretty common in Montenegro ( whose teritory is a part of the ancient Greek world ) , in Coon's works, the Montenegrins and N.Albanians are put in the same 'race' as N.Germans, SW.Scandianvians and W.Irish ( metrically they are the same 'race' ), but genetic evidence shows a predominantly indigenous ( pre-Slavic ) population.

    And, yes, many of the Slavs who conquered the Balkans settled in what today is Greece in the beginning of medieval times.

    The very word 'blond' has a different meaning in the Balkans. Here, a person can have dark hair and dark eyes, but still be called a 'blondie' because of the very light skin. Most usually, the 'blond' is a light-brown haired person with blue eyes.

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    Post Re: Greek Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    The ancient Greeks were pretty much like the modern ones - dark-haired and dark-eyed people. In the past they sometimes mixed with light-haired neighbours, today also.

    The marble sculptures of the ancient times were "white", that's why some may think there were "white" (in terms of nordic) ancient Greeks.

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    Post Re: Greek Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    I am interested that it says they were also long-headed.






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    Post Re: Greek Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
    I am interested that it says they were also long-headed.
    That's highly irrevelant. The Berbers are often blond, redheaded, blue or green-eyed, yet they have a predominantly Atlanto-Mediterranid composition; long-headedness is a trait shared by this and several other Southern European racial phenotypes.

    By the way, in the interests of this thread's legitimacy, let us remember that a a great many Nordics, maybe even around 80%, fall under only one of the blonde-haired, blue-eyed categories and, in a minority of cases, have neither of these pigmentation traits.

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    Post Re: Greek Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Well, CI changes, as it has been explained in several threads here on Skadi.
    The CI of Germans has changed from predom. dolichocephalic to brachycephalic
    during the medieval.

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    Post Re: Greek Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Are you kidding? A blonde haired, blue eyed Mediterranid would look very similar to a Nordid.






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    Post Re: Greek Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Yes, but what's blond by mediterranean standards isn't nearly as blond by N.European standards.

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    Post Re: Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Awar
    If I remember correctly, Benjamin Franklin, and some other Anglo-Americans
    who only considered English people to be 'white'.
    well...many american colonials of franklin's time looked down on anyone who weren't english, including their own kin, the scots-irish. back then, "racism" had more to do with cultural superiority and xenophobia than race. if a german, a scots-irish, or any other european immigrant could speak english fluently and assimilate into the main population, they would be whole-heartedly accepted. i think it wasn't until the mid to late 19th century that the notion of racial superiority and eugenics began to take hold, popularized by men like chamberlain, grant, and stoddard.

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    Post Re: Travel Website Acknowledges Blond Hellenes

    Sure, but there were some propaganda-anthro works which equated Irish with Negroids etc. silly stuff.

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