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Thread: Should Scotland Be Independent?

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    Well, looks like Scotland are one step closer to being independant. The SNP won the Scottish Elections.

    I also have another little gem of information for you to digest. Did you know that Scotland has the second highest GDP, and that is only because money produced by work on the North Sea Oil goes through London. So, Scotland, as a country, is financially stable enough to infact become independant and have England leave us the Hell alone.

    Start taking back your Nuclear weapons, citizens of England, because once Scotland go independant, we won't be wanting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrid Runa View Post
    Well, looks like Scotland are one step closer to being independant. The SNP won the Scottish Elections.

    I also have another little gem of information for you to digest. Did you know that Scotland has the second highest GDP, and that is only because money produced by work on the North Sea Oil goes through London. So, Scotland, as a country, is financially stable enough to infact become independant and have England leave us the Hell alone.

    Start taking back your Nuclear weapons, citizens of England, because once Scotland go independant, we won't be wanting them.
    News flash about 1/2 of North sea oil would be in English waters. Its done up the longitudinal from the land and the UK is slanted at an angle. Oil is not just decided by how close to a shore it is, its far more complicated than that. Even if you got North sea oil you would be down about £10bn. Not to mention we now own your broke banks and their is no way we will be left footing all the bill wile you walk off. Even the Scottish Labour party worked out Scotland would be hard pushed to go it alone.

    For some basic data look at this.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance...n-independent/

    I would LOVE Scotland to leave the union. We would be that much closer to being out of deficit not having to carry your socialist baggage. And as for the nuclear weapons we want them.

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    Record numbers of foreign students and asylum seekers have seen Scotland’s population grow to its highest level for 33 years, a fact the Scottish “National” Party has described as “excellent”.

    The country’s population now stands at 5.22 million after an influx of an official figure of 46,100 immigrants last year, the most since 1977.

    The figures from the National Records of Scotland reported that there was a net migration of 3,400 from the United Kingdom, while the rest of the influx was due to those coming from overseas.

    Scotland’s population has risen by 159,000 in the last decade, and last year’s increase is the highest since immigration figures were first recorded in 1991.

    The largest net increases in immigrant population were recorded in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee. The statistics conclude that Scotland’s population has increased by 3.1 per cent since 2001, with immigration being the main reason.

    Migrants have poured into Scotland since the expansion of the EU in 2004, and the number of people living in the country who were born abroad has increased by more than half in five years, to 312,000.

    Migration Watch chairman Sir Andrew Green said Scotland’s population had been expected to rise by seven per cent over the next 25 years, but the new figures suggest this rate will double.

    An SNP spokesman commended Scotland’s soaring immigration numbers, saying: “These are excellent figures, which mean a growing population will help fuel our economic recovery.”

    After the SNP abolished tuition fees, the number of EU students in Scotland has risen to 15,930, almost double the figure a decade ago.

    The government’s report echoes the warnings on the British National Party’s Scottish Parliament election leaflets, delivered last month, in which the Party stated that:

    “Floods of East Europeans can, from 1st May, come to Scotland, sign on and each grab £250+ a week in benefits and housing. We say that local people should have the money and homes.”

    Apparently Salmon wants Scotland to join the EU after it achieves independence (from Scottish ministers in Westminster).
    Do you think this is a good idea Astrid Runa?
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    I wish people would stop misspelling 'independent' in this thread.

    I wonder if we could have a pact: If the Scots get their independence, they'll promise to stop whinging. It seems a naive hope, to be sure. Kind of like a nagging woman; once you do what she's been nagging you about all day, she just finds something else to give you earache over, or just nags that she's annoyed she had to nag you earlier. Of course, as I said before, whiners whine because they love whining, not because they have anything particular to whine about. I'd support Scottish independence like I'd support washing the dishes: simply to shut an annoying voice up. But, sadly, it'll only work temporarily, at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    I wish people would stop misspelling 'independent' in this thread.

    I wonder if we could have a pact: If the Scots get their independence, they'll promise to stop whinging. It seems a naive hope, to be sure. Kind of like a nagging woman; once you do what she's been nagging you about all day, she just finds something else to give you earache over, or just nags that she's annoyed she had to nag you earlier. Of course, as I said before, whiners whine because they love whining, not because they have anything particular to whine about. I'd support Scottish independence like I'd support washing the dishes: simply to shut an annoying voice up. But, sadly, it'll only work temporarily, at best.
    Don't forget how much richer we would be without them Also don't forget that the immigration policy in the UK was a deliberate attack drawn up by Scots running the Liebor (Labour's more popular name) party who knew it would never effect their own constituency. Much better of without them.
    I am sick of having their filth low socialism forced on us in the south using Scottish votes for polices that only effect England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Of course, as I said before, whiners whine because they love whining, not because they have anything particular to whine about.
    So why are you whinging your self about us Scots? You say you're sick of us Scots doing nothing but sitting on our arses and complaining, well i think you need to look at your self.

    This whole bloody thread is filled with your own whinging and rantings about us Scots, Hamar. Last i checked that was not the topic . You insist we're all a lot of mere whiners, thats fine, but you need to look to your self and your fellow Englishmen. Its because of you lot that we have such reasons to "whine". We want a change; we want freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    I wish people would stop misspelling 'independent' in this thread.
    ...and I wish people would know their linguistic history well enough to distinguish true misspellings from etymologically permissible ones. The English word independent is first attested in the 1610s, following on from Italian independente (1590s) resp. French independant (1600s) which both predate the English documentation of the term.

    It is in truth the independent which is the odd one out; obviously we have the word dependent documented as an alternative spelling for dependant! So if the variant dependant is permissible not only as a noun, but also as an adjective --- so is independant a permissible option (or at least should be), albeit a very unorthodox one; such would at least be my suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olav View Post
    We want a change; we want freedom.
    So do we from you. PLEASE vote for independence. I am really happy for Scotland to stand on its own feet. I don't dislike Scottish people but I am sick of the English getting blamed for everything and anything wile footing all the bills. We are all in the EU the only change is you will only have yourself to blame or to thank so for god's sake go.

    If you don't want to go take a vote and vote no to independence and then shut up with the talk of the old enemy. We are sick of hearing about it. Scotland is free, sadly it likes to pretend its not. NOTHING is stopping you voting for a referendum and it looks like with the SNP you should get one so please take your vote and end this really irritating rubbish. If you don't go make that the end of it. If you do, good luck and have fun we will still buy your whisky and go on holiday in the highlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    ...and I wish people would know their linguistic history well enough to distinguish true misspellings from etymologically permissible ones. The English word independent is first attested in the 1610s, following on from Italian independente (1590s) resp. French independant (1600s) which both predate the English documentation of the term.

    It is in truth the independent which is the odd one out; obviously we have the word dependent documented as an alternative spelling for dependant! So if the variant dependant is permissible not only as a noun, but also as an adjective --- so is independant a permissible option (or at least should be), albeit a very unorthodox one; such would at least be my suggestion.

    Know first, speak second, my friend.
    LOL, so much effort to justify an obvious misspelling. Quite sad really. Let's check an English dictionary and see if the spelling 'independant' is listed as a valid alternative to 'independent'. Get back to me when you find it.

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    What is sad is all these so called 'patriots' promoting the break-up of their great nation!

    IGNORANCE, SELFISHNESS & GREED.

    That is what drives Scottish 'Nationalism'.

    Scotland is to Britain what Bavaria was to Germany.

    What do these morons think will come of independance?! Oh, once the SNP have separated Scotland from the UK (and gifted it to the EU - as they have admitted they will) they'll boot out all the foreign races and mongrels! No they won't!

    I think some people here have simply watched Braveheart too many times (a film that was made to demonise the great King Edward I).

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