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Thread: Should Scotland Be Independent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linden View Post
    You do realise that more than 80% of the population of Scotland lives within the Germanic region of the nation? The whole idea that Scotland is Celtic is a Victorian concept. However, I do agree that Scotland deserves independence. I would like for Great Britain to resolve it's immigration problem as a single body before independence becomes a 'hot-topic', though.
    Yes, immigration remains the primary issue.

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    Well to me depends on whose going to be pulling the strings. We all know who is the puppet master with the main English government, is it or will it any different with the Scots? Is that why there is concerted uproar? Maybe they don't want to lose their grip on them. Who will really benefit from the split power and money wise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrid Runa View Post
    Well, roll on the "Scotland will end up bankrupt" crap spouted by the English Government.
    Scotland will be fine without England. However, will England be fine without Scotland? .


    We'll be fine Independant. We're having talks with forming an Alliance with Norway and Sweden. If we can get it, we'll be golden.
    We have much to offer our brothers and sisters to the north. However, if the plans of an alliance with them falls through, we'll still be in good shape if we're independent. Although we may need to open a few more trade routes, but that is easily do-able. We have the largest ammount of oil resources in Europe, making us the largest petroleum producer in the EU. However, the majority of that money goes south to London. London gets about £12 billion a year, while we only get half of that. We've given away over £250 billion in the past 30 years from oil alone. Imagine how much better off we would be if London was cut off from our oil alone . That's only talking about oil too. We have plently more sources of revenue; agriculture, banking, entertainment, fishing, biotechnology, energy and tourism. Just to name a few

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olav View Post
    We have much to offer our brothers and sisters to the north. However, if the plans of an alliance with them falls through, we'll still be in good shape if we're independent.
    Are these talks taking place solely among Scottish politicians or are there talks taking place inbetween Scotland and Norway/Sweden also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
    Are these talks taking place solely among Scottish politicians or are there talks taking place inbetween Scotland and Norway/Sweden also?
    Senior Nationalists, including Alex Salmond, have made several trips to Scandinavia over the last couple of years, meeting ministers and officials in an attempt to pave the way for greater co-operation if Scotland becomes independent, particularly on energy. Indeed, initial plans have already been drawn up for an electricity super-grid between Scotland and Norway.

    SNP strategists insist that Scotland would continue to be extremely close to the rest of the UK, which would remain its biggest trading partner, but they also believe that Scotland has more in common with its Scandinavian neighbours than the UK does and they are keen to take this relationship to a new level.
    They seem to be more interested with Norway in particular, but also want a relationship with all of Scandinavia. Probably because of their proximity to us. You can read more about it here:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-6272337.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olav View Post
    Thanks. As usual when it comes to Swedish foreign policy there is very little information about it in the media so I was wondering if I had missed something important. But it is perhaps not so dramatic as the word alliance would suggest, it's more I guess an issue of potential trade opportunities and such as described by the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrid Runa View Post
    Well, roll on the "Scotland will end up bankrupt" crap spouted by the English Government. These next few years should be really interesting.
    We'll be fine Independant. We're having talks with forming an Alliance with Norway and Sweden. If we can get it, we'll be golden.
    British! It's a British parliament. When have did the English get a generous devolution settlement like you folks north of the border?

    From the alliance, as soon as the oil is gone so is Scotland's economy. Go for independence, invest money carefully (not in RBS for god sake) and stop moaning at the English.


    Honestly, why is it that the Scottish have an obsession with the English when the English barely even think about them?
    This is not out of some hatred or disregard of Scotland, it is more to do with the fact that we're not a bunch of whiny cry-babies who have a victim-complex like your people!
    Leave the union already and stop bloody mithering!
    Last edited by Chlodovech; Saturday, January 28th, 2012 at 08:08 PM. Reason: We allow fair and benevolent criticism of all races; subraces; ethnicities; peoples; religious, cultural and social ... etc.

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    I think it would be nice if the Scots and English would get along and be able to accept eachother. That being said, they are still different people and therefore they will not get along fully unless it is forced. I believe it should be independant. But there might be a backlash to that. If it remains a member of the EU or under Jewish control, they're going to figure that Scotland isn't diverse enough for such a big country. You will probably see immigrants flooding in soon. First we need to get rid of the Jews and non-European/Germanic foreigners, and then we should focus on who should be independant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northumbria View Post
    Honestly, why is it that the Scottish have an obsession with the English when the English barely even think about them?
    This is what a lot of Scots believe, that they're in some way neglected. This could be said for a lot of regions of England though, especially that everything in England is London-centric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northumbria View Post
    British! It's a British parliament. When have did the English get a generous devolution settlement like you folks north of the border?
    Scottish Government, English Parliament. We have our own government, thanks.

    From the alliance, as soon as the oil is gone so is Scotland's economy. Go for independence, invest money carefully (not in RBS for god sake) and stop moaning at the English.
    Nuh uh. Wrong. If we have an alliance with Scandinavia, once our oil is gone, we'll have other things to trade. Renewable energy for one. Or are you unaware of the Hurricane under the North Sea?


    Honestly, why is it that the Scottish have an obsession with the English when the English barely even think about them?
    Maybe because you screwed us over way too many times. That and the fact that a good majority of the English moan and whine about us too. Don't act like this is all one sided, mate.

    This is not out of some hatred or disregard of Scotland, it is more to do with the fact that we're not a bunch of whiny cry-babies who have a victim-complex like your people!
    Okay, that was bloody uncalled for.

    Leave the union already and stop bloody mithering!
    Oh, trust me. We would if your parliament would let us. They're clinging onto us for dear life, spouting utter rubbish and sticking their noses in our business, trying to change our plans for the referendum. So, I suggest you read what the English parliament are saying about the Scottish referendum and then say what you've just said in that post of yours.
    Last edited by Chlodovech; Saturday, January 28th, 2012 at 08:08 PM. Reason: Reply to edited post.

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