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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Erlkoenig View Post
    Don't arbitrarily adopt a timeframe, and then label everything before that time frame insignificant. Yep, that's right, the same can be said to you.
    No, it can't.

    I accept recent cultural developments right alongside the most ancient cultural developments. To me, Christianity is no more or less valid than heathenry is no more or less valid than the proto-Indo-European religion is no less valid than the simplistic shamanism of our Paleolithic ancestors.

    Why? Because they are all beads on the same string. You can have an aesthetic preference for one bead over the other, but denying that they are both features of the same necklace is pretty much just ignoring the obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Jupiter View Post
    No, it can't.

    I accept recent cultural developments right alongside the most ancient cultural developments. To me, Christianity is no more or less valid than heathenry is no more or less valid than the proto-Indo-European religion is no less valid than the simplistic shamanism of our Paleolithic ancestors.

    Why? Because they are all beads on the same string. You can have an aesthetic preference for one bead over the other, but denying that they are both features of the same necklace is pretty much just ignoring the obvious.
    But they are not all beads on certain strings. Germanic preservation need have nothing to do with Christian influence, as many posters here would likely agree with. In fact, on could make the argument (successfully) that the deterioration of Germanic culture started with the Christianization of Europe, in which case Christian traditions are seen as (correctly) foreign to Germanic culture. The foundation that Germanic culture came from is something to consider, but outside the scope of this thread, certainly.

    So, yep, that same little rant can be applied to you as well, you are picking, and choosing what to call Germanic based on timeframes. Infant baptism is not Germanic, no "Christian" tradition is "Germanic". I don't expect you to understand the difference, but I'm giving you the chance nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardito
    If not for "Politics: Blut und Boden", I would have thought you a liberal.


    No, I just dont want more infants crippled from birth onwards. When an adult choses to have his third eye crippled and blinded, then that's his choice. To do this to innocent infants is a crime though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    When an adult choses to have his third eye crippled and blinded, then that's his choice.
    Thinking in terms of choice is the entire essence of liberalism, and it is the root of every problem which the modern world experiences.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    To do this to innocent infants is a crime though.
    Do you honestly mean to tell me that you wouldn't teach your child to think how you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardito View Post
    Thinking in terms of choice is the entire essence of liberalism, and it is the root of every problem which the modern world experiences.
    Not so. In fact, traditional Germanic societies heavily favored freedom of individual choice.
    "So, yes, we are better than others. Our worldviews are better than those of others. This does not need to be universally true, it is enough when it is true for us." - velvet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Erlkoenig View Post
    Not so. In fact, traditional Germanic societies heavily favored freedom of individual choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Erlkoenig View Post
    freedom of individual choice.
    Freedom, or individual choice. Choose one. Can't have both.

    Traditional Germanic cultures, contrary to your assertions, understood that individualism is slavery, and that true liberation comes from duty and loyalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Jupiter View Post
    A grave error on the part of our forebears, no doubt.
    Ah, the old vague post that manages to both say nothing, and totally devoid of meaning. I see that you are at least consistent. In the future, if you have nothing real to say, say it in the post you don't submit.
    "So, yes, we are better than others. Our worldviews are better than those of others. This does not need to be universally true, it is enough when it is true for us." - velvet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Erlkoenig View Post
    Not so. In fact, traditional Germanic societies heavily favored freedom of individual choice.
    I can't see medieval Saxons being okay with their sons dressing in drag and talking about peace and love, to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Erlkoenig View Post
    Ah, the old vague post that manages to both say nothing, and totally devoid of meaning. I see that you are at least consistent. In the future, if you have nothing real to say, say it in the post you don't submit.
    Good to know you're a quick and dynamic poster who can keep up with the insidious trickery of the edit function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Jupiter View Post
    Freedom, or individual choice. Choose one. Can't have both.

    Traditional Germanic cultures, contrary to your assertions, understood that individualism is slavery, and that true liberation comes from duty and loyalty.
    Of course the two aren't mutually exclusive, but I've never met a troll before who cares about reason.
    "So, yes, we are better than others. Our worldviews are better than those of others. This does not need to be universally true, it is enough when it is true for us." - velvet

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