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Thread: Our Relationship with Islam: Look at History

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    Our Relationship with Islam: Look at History

    When people today talk of Islam as at peace with the West the history of Islam in Europe seems to be forgotten like the Siege of Malta, the battle and siege of Vienna, the Battle of Tours etc, not to mention recent terrorist actions.

    One just needs to look at the history of multiculturalism in Europe with the Jews, Gypsies and even Moors to see multiracialism does not work. These racial others have been in Europe for hundreds of years and their presence has been despised. Think the expulsion of Jews throughout European history in France, England etc, likewise the Moors from Spain and the Gypsies from England, Sweden etc not to mention some in France recently.

    History has a strange way of repeating itself, however mass immigration is likely to see a less favorable result for us

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    I honestly feel like this is the reason for it.

    Much of Europe is realizing that Religion is ridiculous so they are dropping this. This however was our age old divider between civilizations. This has been a divider of different groups which each have different behaviors.

    But liberals like to think that now that religion is gone, we are all equal- because that MUST be the only difference between populations. But this is not the case. Liberals ignore the genetic and statistical facts that population groups differ considerably in terms of behavior; such as crime rates, illegitimacy, IQ, aggressiveness. Not to mention certain races will have a harder time losing their religion than other groups because of IQ differences.

    It's going be frustrating trying to fit these contradictions into a society- but that's probably what's going to happen. Then segregation. And life will be awkward.

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    "When falls the Colosseum, falls Rome
    When falls Rome, falls the world" -Lord Byron

    Indeed, as he also said to the extent, "History, with her volumes vast, hath but one page."
    One finds in the study of great civilizations, such as Rome, very rarely are they overthrown by attacking armies, but interior pressures and predicaments (Immigration, Economy, Social morality, etc) are precursors to their demise. Our society is rotten from the core, one has to simply kick the door in and the whole building collapses.
    We are the Rome of the modern world. Not the fighting Rome, not the Caesarian elitist Rome, but the decadent Rome, the apathetic Rome. The "Barbarian" of yesterday is "Terrorist" today. Whether they be Jews, Muslims, Africans, the like, is nothing new.

    If you ask me, I think it will be interesting to see how the whole situation will pan out when the time arrives.

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    I believe the liberals are cultural supremecists in many ways. I doubt they they allowed Muslims in thinking they would cause all this trouble. And if they did then we are well and truly done for!

    Leftists/liberals etc believe that people can overcome their upbringing and environments if they have the right support - in other words Africans and Arabs are violent because they live in violent and ignorant environments. Put them in a new place and they will overcome this and our culture will overwhelm them and they will become Europeans albeit with different skin tones, family names etc.

    To some degree this can work with some nationalities, but just like I am an Australian born person, I still identify myself as German despite very little interaction with Germans on a large scale.

    You are what you are, they don't like to accept this. It also helps if the host country has a very strong culture, for a quite some time I thought America made it's immigrants more American than other countries made their immigrants their own. This was because America had strong pride and a sense of identity. You could learn American history from watching the most trivial tv show.

    In terms of Islam it is more than just religion. It is a political force and a lifestyle, it goes against all the teachings of modern Western life. It uses tolerance, democracy and PC against us they have even said as much. Some Muslims (probably the smarter ones) see Islam for what it is and they rebel others see the chance to act criminally and get away with it.

    Islam also to me is a joyless religion. And misery loves company, they see others having fun, wearing shorts on warm days etc and they think I can't do this, these people must convert!

    hmmm... sorry ranting.

    My point is if we look at history and see that history repeats itself. All of this PC nonsense and tolerance is coming to breaking point all over the world. White people are getting angry, right wing parties are winning seats, we will be seeing some sort of bigger swing to the right in the near future.
    I grew up on a belief of honour, courage and the old world values. The world isn't about that anymore, preferring to die a slow death of fast food and cheap thrills.

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