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    Abortion in the Third Reich

    I was in the library and glanced over and seen this book called The Encyclopedia of the Third Reich. Giant book. Page 1...

    Abortion, criminal offense whose penalty (Criminal Code Chap 218) was made harsher during the Third Reich because abortion was said to offend the "German Volk's will to life and future." Exceptional permission for an abortion was granted only through the Law to Prevent HEREDITARY ILL OFFSPRING (Gesertz zur Verhutung erbkranken Nachwuchses). Propoganda was directed above all against indiviualistic motives for abortion; the "duty of the Volk" had precedence over the "right to one's own body." The awakening of the "will for a child" was to be the primary goal of all POPULATION POLICY.

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    I agree with that position on Abortion. Abortion should only be a choice for PARENTS of a disabled child and not for parents of a healthy child. Our Children are our Future, I hope to have some.

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    I continued to read on in that encyclopedia about how the mentally and physical handicapped were being killed starting with the younger ones. Many of them wanted to die. Hitler condoned it until people began protesting. Than Hitler wanted it stopped but it was still carried on in hospitals.

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    Their stance on abortion was only so strict because they needed future soldiers.

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    Originally posted by schturmovik
    Their stance on abortion was only so strict because they needed future soldiers.
    I doubt that seriously, unless they were planning a war that would stretch for decades. Also when was the legislation regarding abortion introduced, was there already a plan for war at that time?

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    There was a plan for a war ever since Hitler wrote Mein Kampf.

    He knew that there would be a war that stretched on, but it didnt matter, as he was planning a thousand year empire.

    I'm not sure the date of the abortion legislation, as ive never studied that area of the reich, but i will look into it.

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    Hitler made abortion illegal for one very simple and important reason. He wanted the German Aryan race to live on as a people, and secure their future in Europe and the world.

    If a race stops breeding with and reproducing their own kind, they die out, plain and simple. Making abortion illegal is one way to prevent this from happening.

    I would say that an Aryan state would not be in the best interest of Aryans unless abortion was against the law, except in the case of children with genetic defects.

    This is because when you take into account our natural low birth rate and then add the abortions of healthy Aryan children, we barely have any growth rate at all. What good is a government without the race that it was built around?

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    Hitler and Abortion

    When the Nazis came to power in 1933 one of the first acts Hitler did was to legalize abortion. By 1935 Germany with 65 million people was the place where over 500,000 abortions were being performed each year. Although Hitler and his government encourged Aryan women to produce a lot of children, he left the matter of abortion and all its facets in the hands of a decidely pro- abortion medical establishment. Even in the midst of Nazi propaganda aimed at increasing the Aryan population, scores of Aryan women still chose to abort their unborn children. The medical publication Deutsches Aerzleblatt reported the abortions in Germany each year reached a half-million.

    Further, a Nazi decree of October 19, 1941 established abortion on demand as the official policy of Poland. Hitler, however, expressed dissatisfaction with this policy. Abortion, he believed, should NOT be limited to Poland. He therefore ordered that abortion be expanded to all populations under the control of the "Ministry of the Occupied Territories of the East."

    On July 22, 1942, the Fuhrer exhibited a highly positive attitude towards abortion as an indispensable method of dealing with the non-German populations in countries under Nazi control. "In view of the large families of the native populations," he asserted, "it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible." Hitler also personally announced that he "would personally shoot" any "such idiot" who "tried to put into practice such an order (forbidding abortion) in the occupied Eastern territories.

    Despite contemporary attempts to characterize Hitler as opposed to abortion, the historical evidence clearly and overwhelmingly supports only one possible conclusion: Hitler and his regime were adamantly pro-abortion. To depict Hitler as anti-abortion is a ludicrous as calling him anti-genocide or pro- Jewish. Both Hitler and his government had little regard for human life perceived as subpar, whether born or preborn.

    "Questions

    1. If Hitler was opposed to abortion, why didn't he demand that Germany's strong law protective of human life before birth (enacted in 1871) be ratained?

    2. If Hitler was opposed to abortion, why did he leave the matter of abortion in the hands of the most vociferous pro-abortion physicians and medical organizations in Germany?

    3. If Hitler was opposed to abortion, why did he permit the establishment of guidelines and procedures for legal abortion in close conformity to those developed by the Berlin Chamber of Physicians, a prominent advocate of permisssive abortion under the guise of health?

    4. If the Nazi government had such restrictive laws on abortion, why were there at least half-a-million abortions performed annually in Germany?

    5. If Hitler was opposed to abortion, why did he say that 'in view of the large families of native population it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible'?

    6. If Hitler was opposed to abortion, why did he order that abortion on demand be instituted as the prevailing policy for all countries under Nazi domination?

    7. If Hitler was opposed to abortion, why did he threaten to shoot anyone who attempted to forbid abortions in Nazi occupied areas?

    8. If the Nazi government was opposed to abortion, why did it issue an endless series of decrees legalizing the destruction of the unborn throughout the Eastern territories?" At risk of stating the obvious, some (perhaps, many) of the aborted were JEWS.

    Source: Precious-Life Ministries

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    Post Re: Hitler and Abortion

    Well hell, I support abortion for non-White women without a second thought or the slightest moral considerations. Let those coat-hangers rock n' roll. It is only abortion for White women that even concerns me or rises to the level of a moral question.

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    Post AW: Hitler and Abortion

    Well, the believe that the NS were against abortion comes from a modern, means wrong look at abortion.
    Today abortion we Nationalists understand as the egoistic outcome of a sick civilization and by heart we're against abortion, because we associate the killing of healthy life of our nation.
    But thinking logically, every National Socialist has to be pro abortion and so was Hitler and the NASDAP.
    Why?
    We understand the human life not in the sense of the jewish Christian religion, which doesn't accept the laws of nature and doesn't see the human as ONE part of many of nature.
    Every life is precious in their view. Degenerated or sick doesn't matter.
    We National Socialists have a complete other view of the world - therefore we don't share an ideology, but a Weltanschauung, which is somethng much bigger and universal.
    In our believe, the life itself is measured and has to proove itself worth living.
    That sounds hard, but is nothing more, than to say loud, what our brain already knows, but isn't allowed to say, because of the jewish-christian culture, covering our real feelings.

    The meaning of life is life itself. And this can only be reached, if it is reproductive. Means, we N.S. have understood, that nature's laws are god's laws.
    And therefore it is nothing more than folling the will of god, the creator of nature, to follow carefully the intentions of nature and not doing the opposite from a completely wrong understanding of 'humanity'.
    The human differs from the animal, not because an old jewish man with a white beard gives him, and only him a soul and looks at everything else with a materialistic jewish view.
    No, what makes the human so special is, that he has a mind and self-consciousness about being.
    And that fact determines real humanity.
    We shall use our brain, to fullfill the will of nature, of life - and not our will, our artificial ideologies or religions.

    So it's completely logical, that a National Socialist can only be pro abortion.

    Especially in times like ours, where our nations are flooded with foreign races and we have to face multi'cultural' societies, it is extremely important to keep arbotion legal!
    Every Nationalist against abortion simply forgets how many thousand bastards would otherwise be born, which are now aborted.
    Let's think about reality: sadly it's very easy to have sex with girls today. Now imagine, that each and every interracial misstep has to be worn out!
    The fastest way to destroy the blood!
    I would not be surprised, if the 'neo-conservative' wave from the US, spreads in Europe, too. Who are behind the Neo-Cons, we all know.

    Ofcourse it's the bad effect, that thousands and thousands healthy and precious children are aborted, today, but the shrinking of a nation can quite easily be reversed, if the nation decides for life again.
    The mixing-up is almost not reversible!
    A shrinked down to 10 millions german nation is less of a problem, than a 60 million nation with 1 million of bastards.

    And from the Eugenic point of view, it should be clear anyway, why abortion should be legal and is real humanity at it's best: theoretically only one single generation has to bear the load of eugenics, but all following generations are freed from the scourges and tremendous sorrows of the hundredthousands families, which have to suffer from a wrong understood 'humanity' today. And especially in the white race, due to the high level of civilization, they are becoming more and more.
    Like every medical or every military company-leader, the modern nationalist knows: to reduce suffering, it is sometimes necessary to make hard decisions.
    Eugenics and abortion are such hard decisions. But if we use our brain, it is clear, that in reality it reduces sorrow enormously.

    That it can be misused, is clear, because it is a very powerful measure. It is the task of good politics, to use it to the advantage of the nations and in the big view, to the advantage of mankind.

    Being against abortion in the established multicultural 'societies', means supporting race-mixture and therefore supporting the genocide on the own nation!

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