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    What Do You Think of MENSA and Other High-IQ Societies?

    Personally, I used to admire them a lot in my teen years, but given how they don't really do anything productive, I can't say I hold such a high opinion of them any longer. I understand that all they do at their meetings is play weird games and do puzzles, and above all, act eccentric. Of course, those puzzles are above me, but there are better things to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest King View Post
    Personally, I used to admire them a lot in my teen years, but given how they don't really do anything productive, I can't say I hold such a high opinion of them any longer.
    Most the high-IQ societies seem more focused on a social function then being some kind of think-tank. To my knowledge, there is only one that really push it's members to use the higher intelligence of their members towards intellectual goals, namely the International Society for Philosophical Enquiry, alto Mensa have some work-groups that have think-tank like qualities.

    I understand that all they do at their meetings is play weird games and do puzzles, and above all, act eccentric. Of course, those puzzles are above me, but there are better things to do.
    These kind of societies can be a good opportunity to meet other people on the roughly the same mental level as yourself.
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    What a joke. As for "get togethers" there is deep seated sense of inferiority that many members have that is articulated by their constant reference to the fact that they passed the Mensa test, been asked to join and have "proof" of their "intelligence". Really! Get a grip, does anyone really care?

    Now, membership in the American Philosophical Society is something else again...

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    I don't know much about them or their workings so consequently don't have much of an opinion about them. Afaik they don't serve any particularly significant role or purpose but certain people no doubt find them of benefit as a type of social society. I can't think of any negatives so if you're fortunate enough to qualify and have an interest in joining then, why not.

    As for "intelligence", imo it's a bit of an abstract concept. High intelligence is not necessarily a guarantee of being able to achieve relative "success" in life. And then again... "success" is another abstract concept so I better stop now before I get too philosophical.

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    We should all set goals to get into selective groups.

    We need more segregation between the high level people and common people.

    In high school, there is a dramatic difference between on-level and above-level students- in morals, behavior, values, aspirations and work ethic (and even one between above-level and the more difficult AP level). Between elite colleges and tier two colleges there is a similar difference. There's similar differences between jobs, suburbs, churches, schools.

    Being around better quality people you can learn a lot (the quality of life in almost every area is better). Life just seems to flow better when you're in selective groups.


    I know a few members of Mensa and it seems like a great idea to me. (Wish I could join Mensa but my IQ isn't that high.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynterwade View Post
    I know a few members of Mensa and it seems like a great idea to me. (Wish I could join Mensa but my IQ isn't that high.)
    An IQ test is a test like any other, it tests your test taking ability first and foremost. I'm sure you could practice taking IQ tests and get in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynterwade View Post
    I know a few members of Mensa and it seems like a great idea to me. (Wish I could join Mensa but my IQ isn't that high.)
    Not that bothered about joining but same here, I don't qualify hehehe

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    An IQ test is a test like any other, it tests your test taking ability first and foremost. I'm sure you could practice taking IQ tests and get in.
    I've already tried and it doesn't work too well. IQ is very much genetically inherited. (The technical book by Arthur Jensen; G-Factor describes how IQ cannot be raised much by studying- because it tests speed, comprehension- things that cannot be studied).

    My IQ is somewhere between 115 (first try) and 120 (third try) but I'm not sure which version of tests I took.

    Mensa's only requirement for membership is that one score at or above the 98th percentile on certain standardized IQ or other approved intelligence tests, such as the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scales. Because different tests are scaled differently, it is not meaningful to compare raw scores between tests, only percentiles. For example, the minimum accepted score on the Stanford-Binet is 132, while for the Cattell it is 148.
    haha no point in even trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynterwade View Post
    I've already tried and it doesn't work too well. IQ is very much genetically inherited. (The technical book by Arthur Jensen; G-Factor describes how IQ cannot be raised much by studying- because it tests speed, comprehension- things that cannot be studied).

    My IQ is somewhere between 115 (first try) and 120 (third try) but I'm not sure which version of tests I took.



    haha no point in even trying.
    There is always the anxiety factor, if you are afraid you will score poorly, guess what, you probably WILL score poorly! Very few people who take an IQ test actually take it on their best day, with an optimal mindset. I took one my sophomore year of high school and everyone was surprised by how well I did, but that was because I didn't give a rats ass about doing well, I took it completely naturally, without any expectations, and during a very happy time in my life.

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    Haha, I'm sure it isn't an anxiety or fear factor for me.

    I know people that scored in the top 1% on the SAT test (236 out of 240 National Merit Finalists), and they can think at an entirely different level than me. (their speed, comprehension and abilities blow mine away). This is hard to understand unless you've been around people like this to understand this gap and how it is impossible to reach their level by hard-work and studying. (Just as people are born naturally athletic- I can't join the NBA or be an Olympic swimmer- there are people born naturally smart.)

    Also scoring high on these types of tests run in their families. (I know way too many National Merit Finalist siblings).

    1,500,000 high schoolers wanting to go to college take the test
    of the 1.5 million only 50,000 are commended
    of the 50,000 commended only 16,000 are semi-finalists
    of the 16,000 semi-finalists only 15,000 are finalists.
    15,000/1,500,000

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