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    No opinion, if they've got lots of intelligence then good for them - doesn't really affect me.

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    I despize smartasses who use "IQ tests" and other nonsense as a way to prove their intellect. Many of these so called "geniuses" have barely done a productive thing in their life and to me someone with no achievements can't justifiably be a genius. They can be highly competent and efficient mentally, but not a genius. I think its pretty retarded that people with such abilities use their gifts to play little games and socialize when they could be using it to get somewhere in the world but that's just my opinion.

    I don't look down on IQ tests as a tool for sociologists and psychologists to use to study human behavior, but it is pretty obsurd the way they are being used now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    I despize smartasses who use "IQ tests" and other nonsense as a way to prove their intellect. Many of these so called "geniuses" have barely done a productive thing in their life and to me someone with no achievements can't justifiably be a genius. They can be highly competent and efficient mentally, but not a genius. I think its pretty retarded that people with such abilities use their gifts to play little games and socialize when they could be using it to get somewhere in the world but that's just my opinion.

    I don't look down on IQ tests as a tool for sociologists and psychologists to use to study human behavior, but it is pretty obsurd the way they are being used now.
    Couldn't agree more

    I've gotten fairly high scores when taking online tests too, but I tend to do real stupid things in real life

    You're right, those people could be doing more with their lives. Have you ever heard of Marilyn Vos Savant? She's the smartest human being in ever to walk God's green earth (of course I don't believe this), based on her 228 IQ score, but she's a mere columnist.

    Gerr, it's meaningless.

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    I would qualify, but I prefer to use my intellect for something worthwhile such as enlightening comrades, being a fountain of thought and speech, educating myself including understand complex connections, academic thought, and the likes.

    I don't think much of groups who have the intellect, but do nothing with it. A great mind that sits within one that is lethargic is lesser than an average mind that sits within on that achieves something for himself, his family, his folk at large. You're someone because you do something efficient and worthwhile, not because some paper tells you you're made for something greater.

    As such, I disapprove of such groups and have no interest at present to join them. The thinking elite will become the think-tanks of a successful movement anyway, there's much more in that for me than in whipping my penis out to prove I'm a clever lad. It's what you do with the intellect that counts, and Mensa and similar High-IQ-societies essentially don't do much I consider worthwhile.

    So yea, I look upon them with a bit of disdain.
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    I really have nothing against these societies, though I am not sure what purpose they serve beyond bragging rights for those who pass the test. However, I think these organizations serve as excellent demographic resources. I had to do a bit of digging online to find this stuff but I think it is very interesting:

    American Mensa Ltd. Demographics

    * 64.4% male, 35.4% female (0.2% won't say)
    * 54% between 30-49 years of age, 14% under 29, 0.32% over 80
    * 31.2% in first marriage, 29.82% never married, 13.32% divorced once, 9.53% in second marriage after a divorce
    * Just over half have no children, 12.4% have one child, 18.66% have 2, 9.95% have 3, 4.37% have 4, 1.29% have 9+
    * about 30% earn $20-40,000, 10% earn $50-75,000, 9% earn $40-50,000 and about 0.5% earn more than $250,000.
    * 17.93% Master's degree or equivalent, 17.56% four year graduates, one in 11 are Ph.D.s.
    * 41% work in private industry, 13% in government, 13% self employed.
    * 88% European ancestry.
    * 49% Christian, 3% Unitarian, 9% Jewish, 7% agnostic, 3.6% atheist, 9% no religion
    * 14% only children, 19+% older of two, 12.5% younger of two, 11.5% oldest of three, 6.8% middle of three, 5.8% youngest of three, 9.7% oldest of more than three, 10.8% middle of four or more, 4.4% youngest of four or more
    * Computer-related occupations 10%, 3.75% own their own business, Electrical Engineers are 2.6%, 7.5% are in education, 3% lawyers, 0.11% judges, 0.02% are in astronomy.
    http://mwm.us.mensa.org/faq/people.html

    "88% European ancestry?" Coincidence? I think not. Although some of these other figures are a bit skewed I think. For example, I think the reason Men are so much more represented in these figures is because men are naturally more competitive about things like this and therefore more likely to take the test in the first place.

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    No, I don´t have a good opinion of them, not at all. People who are members of such societies tend to be arrogant and snooty and misinterpret their (assumed) intelligence. Because if someone is a member of such societies it already shows that he or she thinks that the own intelligence is more important than it should be and well, I just dislike such people.

    The other problem is the general reliability of IQ tests and if they meet the entirety of a person. I don´t think they do and I don´t put any weighting on double-digit or three-digit numbers on a paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    No, I don´t have a good opinion of them, not at all. People who are members of such societies tend to be arrogant and snooty and misinterpret their (assumed) intelligence. Because if someone is a member of such societies it already shows that he or she thinks that the own intelligence is more important than it should be and well, I just dislike such people.

    The other problem is the general reliability of IQ tests and if they meet the entirety of a person. I don´t think they do and I don´t put any weighting on double-digit or three-digit numbers on a paper.
    I agree!

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    I have never felt the need to "prove" my intelligence to others in the form of an integer. I feel that members of Mensa may be snooty or have a higher self-worth compared to their perceived "inferiors." If a man does nothing in life but has a high IQ, I would still feel that he isn't worthy of having respect bestowed onto him just like that. He lacked motivation and willpower to make a difference in the world. Of course this might not be of his own fault, but actually that of society's.

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    I don't have much of an opinion of them. I saw a short video on YouTube a while back about MENSA get-togethers, and I must admit I was shocked. They were all goofing-off, making downright weird faces/noises, playing weird games. It was really quite hilarious. Is that what geniuses do?

    Anyway, IQ tests are very inaccurate. They don't measure creativity, and other crucial aspects of a person's intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    No, I don´t have a good opinion of them, not at all. People who are members of such societies tend to be arrogant and snooty and misinterpret their (assumed) intelligence.
    Same thing is being said by some people about those who have academic degrees.

    Most members of such societies I have spoken to, both in real life as on line, do not fit that description. Alto some of the people I have met on the MENSA test day I attended, and on an high IQ forum, are indeed more then a bit arrogant. And some of those do little more with their potential capacity then doing IQ tests and then brag about how well they have done it, or just start ultra high IQ groups with ridiculous names and giving all kind of moronic titles to themselves because they are members of said groups. While the only thing they have done is preforming well on an IQ test.
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