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    PROOF Every Atheist on the Internet is a Fake

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXdifnfdezE

    Suppose you REALLY BELIEVE that there is no God...
    and you REALLY BELIEVE that there's no intelligent purpose or design to the universe...
    So, therefore, you believe that nothing REALLY MATTERS. (belief, actions, etc...)
    Then, why would you go through the trouble arguing about it?
    UNLESS...
    you REALLY DON'T BELIEVE what you claim?

    Every Atheist who argues therefore has to be a fake.



    If you don't get the video, or what's written above then think a little bit more about it.

    Atheists believe there is no meaning or purpose to anything.

    Why then do they debate over the net? Why all the trouble?

    If you check my other thread, you will find 3 or 4 atheists who have trolled it out, going through great lengths to insult or attempt to refute Christianity or the Bible. Why though? Atheism means there is no purpose or meaning to anything.

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    Thank you...
    Now I've learned my lesson.
    That guy with those supercool sunglasses, and his nice looking cap is absolutly right, now I wont never debate christianity again!

    I will never tell the christians to get a life anymore.. Or asking them if they are wasting time with prayers and mandatory church vissits and sevices to some thing they call god..

    Silly me, I tought that nature built it self..

    Thank you TruthSeeker.
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    I don't think this constitutes any proof and the conclusions are quickly jumped to in a what seems a desperate attempt to disprove atheists.

    The only thing that makes sense there is that atheists really believe that there is no god. The rest sounds like nonsense, sorry.

    How did for example this person come to the conclusion that not believing a god made the universe leads to believing nothing really matters? Just because they/you/Christians believe your god equals everything, it doesn't mean the same must be thought by atheists. Atheism means there is no purpose to believing in god, not 'anything'. They believe in other things, particularly science, just not theism. That's what atheism means etymologically, absence of theism. Not absence of everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthSeeker View Post
    Atheists believe there is no meaning or purpose to anything.
    That video was absolutely dumb.
    No god means no purpose???
    Sorry, but that is one of the dumbest messages I ever heard.

    I hope, truthseeker, that the video and your post was just a bit of funny sarcasm... Otherwise it would be just a pathetic preaching attempt.
    It's humor, right? Isn't it? yes?

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    What exactly IS the purpose of atheism?
    As far as I can tell atheism is whoever can deny god in the most clever manner.
    Is it an intellectual competition?

    What good is it?
    What worth is it supposed to ultimately have?
    How is atheism supposed to benefit not only the world but those who adhere to it?
    After atheism...what next for the individual?

    Of course, you can also ask the very same questions about religion.

    I simply could not be content with leaving it at that.
    I would want to keep on pushing beyond atheism/agnosticism/religion.

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    As far as I'm concerned, Atheism is a religion itself.
    It has its prophets, its holy scriptures, its answers to the divine questions.
    Only it chooses not to believe in God based on unfalsifiable subjects and lack of evidence.

    Half of it is introspection, the other half is propaganda spewed by conceited "intellectuals" who's only intent is to stray those who are eager to find God.
    The converse can be said of certain religious persuasions.

    I have a hard time believing that since the dawn of time, man has been wrong about his conjectures about the divine.
    We are the only creatures on the Earth with such an ability as to questioning where we come from. This is the only difference between Man and Beast

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    I will now embark on a dangerous mission, namely answering why questions about religion. Let's see where it leads me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    What exactly IS the purpose of atheism?
    This might best be answered with a question:
    What exactly IS the purpose of monotheism or polytheism or agnosticism?
    Religions don't have a purpose, because they weren't created with a certain intention. They only have a value and a function, which is already quite enough I guess.
    And for those who don't know me, I'm an asatruar. So I think there are gods. But let's not start of about the definition about god(s), because that's an entirely different and endless discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    As far as I can tell atheism is whoever can deny god in the most clever manner.
    Of course atheists are not those who deny there is a god(s). They simply think there is no god(s), because they don't experience or 'see' one or any. This means there is nothing to deny. It's about the apparent abscense of god(s) as an axioma. It's the monotheists or polytheists who deny the apparent absense of god(s), by stating they DO exist.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    What good is it?
    What worth is it supposed to ultimately have?
    How is atheism supposed to benefit not only the world but those who adhere to it?
    After atheism...what next for the individual?
    It has the same value as any vision of life or religion. It answers questions about life. Atheists only have different answers and axioma's.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Of course, you can also ask the very same questions about religion.
    Indeed.
    As for atheism, I think there is no purpose to religion because this would mean religion was created with an intention, which isn't the case. But I see two functions:
    1. Finding meaning and explanations
    2. Control
    The first function is the oldest and most meaningful aspect of religion. The second, control, increases with the amount of dogma, because dogma's delimit the number of interpretations and 'truths' of a religion. This delimiting is only needed for control and has no other significance. So ultimately dogma's are only about power.
    In my opinion a religion should only be about meaning and explanations. The more dogma's a religion has, the more it loses sight of the first function. In my opinion, the number of dogma's is actually a sign of it's inherent weakness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    I simply could not be content with leaving it at that.
    I would want to keep on pushing beyond atheism/agnosticism/religion.
    Tricky, what if there is nothing beyond atheism/agnosticism/religion? This would make us all denialists?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    It has its prophets, its holy scriptures, its answers to the divine questions.
    Only it chooses not to believe in God based on unfalsifiable subjects and lack of evidence.
    No, they don't have prophets, nor holy scriptures. They don't deal in 'holy' stuff. But of course they do have their own set of axioma's. But it's mostly their scientific methods that differ from the religious methods. This makes it very different from religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Half of it is introspection, the other half is propaganda spewed by conceited "intellectuals" who's only intent is to stray those who are eager to find God.
    The converse can be said of certain religious persuasions.
    I sense some grudge and frustration here, especially concerning 'the other half'. Atheists are not evil, they have different views and they have an opinion. This shouldn't be a problem.
    That's why we have forums. We verbally kick each other's ass, and afterwards we laugh about it and have a digital beer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I have a hard time believing that since the dawn of time, man has been wrong about his conjectures about the divine.
    Man has proven to be wrong about a lot of things. Believing something for a long period of time, doesn't make it more true. It only prolongs the existence of an assumption.


    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    We are the only creatures on the Earth with such an ability as to questioning where we come from. This is the only difference between Man and Beast
    The only difference between Man and Beast? Mead!

    Well ok, questioning life is also important.

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    More useless diatribe aimed against atheists I see.
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    The theme of this thread proves nothing at all!

    It's is as unconvincing as the proof of the existance of the Judeo-Christian god Yahweh that all such devout Christian folk follow like slaves!

    Religion is slavery of the mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrogar View Post
    No god means no purpose???
    The question is ultimately not whether or not atheists can provide a purpose or values for themselves but whether they are better than the values already established. This has yet to occur, instead atheism has brought man lower into the realm of mediocrity. Nietzsche's warning remains unheeded.

    While they (atheists) have failed to create any better values, they still cling to the same old values of the Church, why is that? If there is no God than, the values that parade in this charlatan's name are a fraud and thou shalt not should be replaced with thou shalt. Let life then be a struggle of the fittest awarded to he who is willing to use his fellow men as fodder and stepping stones, where your loss becomes my gain. If you are to deny, deny to the fullest.

    What a paradox atheists must find themselves in. They can reject the notion of a Divine purpose to life, yet can not live or organize their societies without the values that arise from it. They are the epitome of lukwarmness.

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