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    A helicopter, speedboat, scuba diving equipment, and a hang glider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortress Germania View Post
    A helicopter, speedboat, scuba diving equipment, and a hang glider.
    We're talking about survival not a 007 mission!



    P.S. - No one got back to me on a link for the up-to-date gas masks

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    I think that this man's video is pretty interesting.
    http://http://www.aloneinthewilderness.com/

    When things go crazy, snow shoes will be needed, something to hold water in, a gun, a book of herbs and wild plants, a parka or fur, good boots and skills that are needed to make things from the earth and surroundings. I could live off of protein bars for a short amount of time and carry a few basic ingredients with me to cook with. I think that the mountains would be a wonderful place to go to because there are berries and wild animals to hunt. We have to remember that the masses will go crazy and it is hard to say what people will do. I am sure my house will get broken into and people will be killing each other, but luckily I do not live in a huge city. There is plenty of forest around me. We will need to build strength, endurance, and knowledge, and a good defense. With those things, we may survive.....oh and a guitar for some campfire singing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortress Germania View Post
    A helicopter, scuba diving equipment, and a hang glider.
    Count me in and able to do all of the above!
    We must be educated in our books & family. We must train hard. We must shoot true & straight. We must carry on our name & heritage. We must protect our women. We will win.
    ~Der Weiße Wehrwolf

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    We must be educated in our books & family. We must train hard. We must shoot true & straight. We must carry on our name & heritage. We must protect our women. We will win.
    ~Der Weiße Wehrwolf

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    One thing that concerns me about when SHTF, for those who depend largely on firearms, the ammo supply will be diminishing if the S*** hitting the fan is due to economic collapse, without munitions manufacturers the use of firearms would be limited to those with the knowledge and resources to self make ammo.

    Wouldn't it be useful to stock up not only on firearms (while they can still be used) but also martial antiquities like daggers, bows and such. Arrows and the like can readily be made by hand as opposed to bullets which require a number of metals and combustibles, basically makings for arrows are more common to come by on a regular basis.

    A webpage on arrow making: http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehisto...ow_making.html

    Another page with some additional info: http://www.rosecityarchery.com/bowhunting_with_wood.htm
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    I don't think the answer lies in arming yourself to the teeth and going after each others throats, acting like neanderthals. The key lies in adaptability and social cohesion. If you don't have these, you're likely to live a live of isolation and fear, regardless of how much food and weapons you hoard.

    And I agree with Cadwallon. Soon enough after this supposed SHTF situation, ammunition production will slow to a standstill. It would be in your interests to become skilled with bows and swords/spears, and other martial arts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I don't think the answer lies in arming yourself to the teeth and going after each others throats, acting like neanderthals. The key lies in adaptability and social cohesion. If you don't have these, you're likely to live a live of isolation and fear, regardless of how much food and weapons you hoard.

    And I agree with Cadwallon. Soon enough after this supposed SHTF situation, ammunition production will slow to a standstill. It would be in your interests to become skilled with bows and swords/spears, and other martial arts.
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=137994
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    If ammo for firearms runs low, you might want to consider a flintlock muzzle loader. Gun powder is really not that hard to make and there are several books on making it. Lead can be recycled and used many times. Not to mention all the lead wheel weights found on car wheels. Gun flints can be found in most streams.


    Remember once fuel runs out cars are a great source for all kinds of reusable stuff(steel). I will get into all the things that can be salvaged later. Remember iron and steel can be remade into many things.

    I would also buy a complete set of the Foxfire books. They are detailed informative books about Appalachia and the folk that live there.

    Here is some more information on the Foxfire project and the books.

    This is their home page and it explains what it is and who they are.

    http://www.foxfire.org/

    Here is the link to their gift shop where you can purchase the Foxfire books.

    http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfirebooks.aspx

    IMO opinion these are the best books for self sustainable living. If you click on the book title it will give you a brief description of each book.

    Not only do these books cover a wide variety of topics on self sustained living, they also offer a look into a Germanic culture here in America. We have several members here that belong to this unique culture.
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    One thing I would be doing is lowpin' back down home to Tennessee, though I'm afraid to go back at times because the community my folks and I are from are wary of outsiders (though not rude, we are hospitable but we don't chit too much about stuff with the outside folks) and I've been outside the community for a few years, hoping that my family name and previous reputation while living there would help ease the re-assimilation.

    It is important for when the SHTF that wherever one is to go that they be able to find an enclave to work themselves into, be suspicious of others but not overly so, and try to head for an area where your family is known (unless your family has a hitman out for them). lol You can never underestimate generation long alliance ties (if they haven't been forgotten).
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