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    Quote Originally Posted by King Sitric View Post
    AlaricLachlan - So what is your opinion of 'primitive' societies ... ie The natives of Australia or Africans - folk that existed with nature for centuries and centuries before Europeans arrived and somewhat upset this eco balance of the way such societies/people lived?
    As Jean Jacques Rousseau so eloquently put it ancient human beings were eternal children in a world of bliss where non-knowledge of the world around them made their lives simple and basic to the point of entirely being uncomplicated.

    It wasn't a utopia. Far from it but in the simplicity of ancient times there was a sort of euphoric social equilibrium and bliss to which every conflict or instance of life back then had a simple manifested answer.

    and centuries before Europeans arrived and somewhat upset this eco balance of the way such societies/people lived?
    It wasn't so much Europeans that upseted the eco balance of the world as it was more to do with specific ideologies to which if the Europeans weren't the first to develop them somebody else in the world would of inevitably done so in their place.

    At any rate the distinction of ancient life versus the more modern one is that in ancient times human beings lived within the natural landscape where it was apart of their everyday existece where now in modern times nature is merely looked at as a abundance of resources to be conquered in the creation of the fabricated seperate artificial world of civilization that is perceived to have it's own distinction.
    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    Schopenhauer puts it best.

    Everyone believes himself a priori to be perfectly free, even in his individual actions, and thinks that at every moment he can commence another manner of life. ... But a posteriori, through experience, he finds to his astonishment that he is not free, but subjected to necessity, that in spite of all his resolutions and reflections he does not change his conduct, and that from the beginning of his life to the end of it, he must carry out the very character which he himself condemns.
    Life is a well of delight; but where the rabble also drink, there all fountains are poisoned.

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    Freedom is freedom of choice, just be prepared to live with those choices if they cause harm or good.

    Of course your choices are set by your environment and the influences of past experiences. The big question is can we change our environment to help us make the choices we would like.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    The only true freedom is to not have to think about what freedom is at all.
    The more you think about it the heavier your chains become.
    The only genuine expression of freedom is that which is enjoyed by animals.
    The very moment you define it you are enslaved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    What is freedom?

    Does freedom really exist?

    How does freedom exist within a purely determinist universe and spatial plane?

    Are we as human beings really free or is freedom merely a masquerade of our own delusions?
    I think that in this day and age a man can live his life according to his own philosophy and ideas.
    It takes a bit of hard work to cut yourself away from the dross and become independent,but you can do it.

    The requisite of course is an iron will power....which for the most part us Germanics are blessed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Freedom is freedom of choice, just be prepared to live with those choices if they cause harm or good.

    Of course your choices are set by your environment and the influences of past experiences. The big question is can we change our environment to help us make the choices we would like.
    There is no freedom of choice or options because both are determined within a given parameter of things where choices only exist upon the parameters one finds themselves in that dictates them to you.
    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    ^That is very true so one must first change their parameter in order to have better choices and 'freedoms' that fit them.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    ^That is very true so one must first change their parameter in order to have better choices and 'freedoms' that fit them.
    One cannot change their parameters in that they can only expand within it where the expansion eventually changes over time assuming that they are lucky enough to posses the knowledge and means to expand within.

    The expansion is the only significant change of which is completely dependent on.
    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    So, does this apply to everybody, aka the human race and to those that get 'lucky' over time? ........ I assume then it does!

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    Your deeds have an effect, at you, at your life, you are not free of that.

    other than that you are free to do whatever you want.

    From a practical point of view:

    do what you want.

    If freedom doesn't exist it doesn't matter. Then the play is exactly written as what you do.

    If freedom exist, then you are fine too.


    So from a practical point of view the question is non existant.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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