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    This Board's Stance On Switzerland?

    The thought just came to me. Question in the Title.

    I don't believe I have ever seen a Swiss member on these boards. What exactly is your guys' stance on the Swiss?

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    I've seen at least one Swiss member. I think the great majority of Skadi would see Switzerland similar to Belgium: a predominantly Germanic albeit multilingual nation. About 64% of the population speaks German (or over 70% if you disregard the immigrants without citizenship), and it can be assumed that the population is ethnically similar to the Austrians.

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    Well, we had some Swiss members in the past but they´re inactive now. The Skadi stance on Switzerland is that we consider the culturally and linguistically German part of Switzerland (=Deutschschweiz) as Germanic.

    The large orange area on following map shows the Deutschschweiz, the Germanic part of Switzerland:



    Most German-Swiss people belong to the Alemannic tribe like the Badenser and Swabians in Germany.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    Most German-Swiss people belong to the Alemannic tribe like the Badenser and Swabians in Germany.
    There are also influences of Hallstatt and La Tène culture that Switzerland has in common with Austria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    the Badenser


    I agree with the rest of your post.
    Additionally I have deep respect for the Swiss domestic policies and especially their policy on immigration.
    And the day they sold us out, Our hearts grew cold
    'Cause we were never asked, No brother, we were told!
    What do they know of Europe, Who only Europe know?



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    Swiss Germanics

    Well... if the DeutschSwiss aren't Germanic, then neither are the Austrians or Germans...

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    There use to be a Swiss moderator, Erhard

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    I personally like the Swiss.
    Swiss dialect if my favorite among the German speaking realm (even though I can't really understand it )
    And to that extent Tyrolean as well.

    Beautiful country, beautiful old cities, rich history, highest standard of living, ban on minarets, 1st strike deportation policy.
    It seems as though they're making the most strides in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ediruc View Post
    The thought just came to me. Question in the Title.

    I don't believe I have ever seen a Swiss member on these boards. What exactly is your guys' stance on the Swiss?
    The Members List lists 12 members who have "Switzerland" in their profile. This is not really accurate, though, because the "Country" profile option is, firstly, not compulsory. Secondly, nationalists from Switzerland might choose another country but Switzerland (such as "Germany"), either because they wish to express their Great German perspective or due to reasons of privacy/security considerations respectively.

    But in general I tend to agree with you that members from Switzerland appear to be underrepresented (same goes for the Danes, as far as I have observed). This might have something to do with the history of Switzerland and the general climate or attitude which prevails there.

    Switzerland has been for more than 600 years independent from the German Reich, and its regionalist, isolationist and neutral perspectives have been re-enforced over dozens of generations. That's really a very, very long time, in particular, as these policies also proved to be very successful and beneficial to the Swiss.

    Even back in the late 19th and early 20th century, the Swiss never developed an all-German consciousness. Movements in Switzerland which wished to join the German Reich never got support from more than 1-2 percent of the population. It's interesting that this view was even quite mutual: Even Hitler who was convinced that "the same blood belongs into one Reich" never seriously considered to incorporate the Germans in Switzerland. In the 30's when most of Europe had been turning rampantly nationalist or even fascist, the Swiss still carried on with their bourgeois and basis-democratic attitude.

    Recently, a rift seems to have developed in Switzerland, though: between the conservative Germans on one hand who wish to remain neutral, independent and to preserve the traditional status quo; and the progressive Frenchmen on the other who wish to become Europeans and to join the EU.

    In the referendum, whether Switzerland should join the EEA, for example, it was the Germans in Switzerland who prevented it, while there was a majority for it in the French cantons. It was the same picture in the referendum whether Switzerland should join the United Nations: the Germans voted with "Nay," the French voted with "Yes." Unfortunately, in this case the opposing German majority was too small to counter the overwhelming support for the UN coming from the French cantons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    Most German-Swiss people belong to the Alemannic tribe like the Badenser and Swabians in Germany.
    Quite right.. they are ethnically closer to Swabians than Austrians, and indeed the German part of Switzerland was part of the duchy of Swabia before Switzerland existed.







    I find the attitude of the Swiss Germans refreshing... very traditional Germanic wisdom embracing local rule and conservative values. There are analogs to this attitude in the States Rights conservatism in the Southern US and old Germanic tribes with their fierce independence that only really gave way to the necessity of being unified in the 1800s.

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