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    Post Writings of Michael Kuhnen?

    Does anybody know where one could find some writings from Michael Kühnen?
    I know that nsdap/ao had some material on their site but i cant find it anymore.
    Someone who have a URL?

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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    unfortunately, the URL seems to be down.

    http://nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/kuehnen

    c.

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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    I believe none of Kühnen's writings have been translated into English. At least have I not seen anything on the net.

    I myself am very curious to find out more about the counter-Kühnen groups at the time, like the so-called Hepp-Kexel group which called for an "Abschied vom Hitlerismus" in 1982.
    Last edited by Julius; Wednesday, May 12th, 2004 at 02:11 PM.

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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius
    I myself am very curious to find out more about the counter-Kühnen groups at the time, like the so-called Hepp-Kexel group which called for an "Abschied vom Hitlerismus" in 1982.
    I have never heard of them. Where can I find a copy of "Abschied vom Hitlerismus"?

    Constantin

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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    I have never heard of them. Where can I find a copy of "Abschied vom Hitlerismus"?
    I have no idea!

    It seems the German Nationalist movement doesn't want to have anyhing to do with them. At least, everyone I've asked either hasn't heard of them or simply says one of them ended up working for DDR (which seems to be true). But I understand if they don't want to talk about alleged terror groups.

    Most of what I've read about Hepp-Kexel come from the "anti-fascists", German media and funny web sites about how Nazis control the world and were behind 911.

    HEPP/KEXEL-Gruppe

    Die 1982 insbesondere in Hessen aktive, nach ihren Führungspersonen
    Odfried HEPP und Walther KEXEL benannte rechtsextremistische Ter-
    rorgruppe war nicht nur die gefährlichste, sondern bisher auch die einzi-
    ge rechtsterroristische Gruppe, die nach dem Vorbild des linksextremi-
    stischen Terrorismus auf der Grundlage eines langfristig angelegten,
    ideologisch fundierten Handlungskonzeptes agierte (Ü Terrorismus). Ihr
    gehörten sechs Personen an. In ihrer Erklärung vom 30.06.1982 mit der
    Überschrift "Abschied vom Hitlerismus" sagten sie sich von den drei
    "Abarten des Nationalismus",

    * dem "Hitlerismus (Abgleitung in den Hitlerkult)",
    * dem "bürgerlichen Nationalismus (Liebäugeln mit dem westlichen
    Kapitalismus)" und
    * dem "NS- und Uniformfetischismus"

    los und propagierten den "antiimperialistischen Befreiungskampf", spe-
    ziell den "Kampf gegen den Amerikanismus". Zur Finanzierung ihres
    bewaffneten Kampfes beging die Gruppe fünf Banküberfälle, mietete
    konspirative Wohnungen und legte Waffen- und Sprengstoffdepots an.
    Sie verübte mehrere Sprengstoffanschläge auf Fahrzeuge von US-
    Amerikanern und zivile Einrichtungen der US-Armee in Hessen. Die
    Gruppenmitglieder wurden im Februar 1983 festgenommen.

    Das Oberlandesgericht Frankfurt/M. verurteilte fünf Mitglieder der HEPP/
    KEXEL-Gruppe am 15.03.1985 u.a. wegen Beteiligung an drei Mordan-
    schlägen und fünf Banküberfällen. Vier Täter erhielten Freiheitsstrafen
    zwischen fünf und zehn Jahren. KEXEL erhielt wegen versuchter Grün-
    dung einer terroristischen Vereinigung, versuchten Mordes in drei Fällen
    und anderer Delikte eine Freiheitsstrafe von 14 Jahren. Er nahm das Ur-
    teil an und beging kurz darauf im Gefängnis Selbstmord. HEPP hatte
    sich der Verhaftung zunächst durch Flucht entzogen und der palästinen-
    sischen Terrororganisation "Palestine Liberation Front" (PLF) ange-
    schlossen, in deren Auftrag er hauptsächlich in Südeuropa und Frank-
    reich operierte. 1985 wurde HEPP in Paris festgenommen und von dort
    nach zweijähriger Haftstrafe nach Deutschland ausgeliefert. Das Ober-
    landesgericht Frankfurt/M. verurteilte ihn am 27.10.1987 wegen ver-
    suchten Mordes, Mitgliedschaft in einer terroristischen Vereinigung, Be-
    teiligung an einem Sprengstoffanschlag und vier Banküberfällen zu zeh-
    neinhalb Jahren Haft.

    [ Source: Rechtsextremismus in Stichworten ]
    I've read about some German "researchers" who have written about Hepp and Stasi in the book "Nach Hitler - Radikale Rechte rüsten auf". Apparently they say he no longer is a Nazi (sic!) and has a secret identity ...

    Some of the older nationalists probably have more information, IDGR links a couple who are still active.
    Last edited by Julius; Thursday, May 13th, 2004 at 10:12 AM.

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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius
    I myself am very curious to find out more about the counter-Kühnen groups at the time, like the so-called Hepp-Kexel group which called for an "Abschied vom Hitlerismus" in 1982.
    I assume you are aware of the fact that Odfried Hepp had been working for both the West German and the East German secret service. After his release from jail he got a new identity and a few years ago appeared on TV (electronically distorted voice, sunglasses, fake beard, but still recognizable) talking about that dangerous neo-Nazi terrorism - which we now know was completely controlled by state informers. That most probably included Kexel, too, who most conveniently for the secret services committed "suicide" in his prison cell in 1985.
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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    The former bomber Peter Naumann is travelling through Germany telling his story about how he was set up by Hepp and only through coincidence avoided getting blown up at the Oktoberfest - which then happened to Gundolf Köhler. Almost everyone Naumann dealt with later turned out to be working for the state, the Stasi or conveniently committed suicide before they could tell anything.

    Hepp - BND, Stasi
    Kexel - suicide
    Busse - won't tell anything about the Munich shootout with the police when he lead the VSBD/PdA
    Roeder - won't tell you about his involvement either - or the one of his sex slave Sibylle Vorderbrügge either. Nobody heard from her again after her release from prison.
    Heinz Lembke - suicide
    Gundolf Köhler - died in the Munich bomb blast
    Uwe Behrendt - suicide in Lebanon
    Karl-Heinz Hoffmann - won't talk about the WSG Hoffmann anymore; we only know what he wrote in his "autobiographical novel" in the 80s. He was clearly protected by influential people on the upper echelon of power. Lives in Thuringia now as owner of a construction company.
    Raymund Hörnle - informer

    if you want to do something illegal it should be clear by now that you have to do it all alone. If two know about it it is already one too many. Soem people had to learn it the hard way. Especially when guns and explosives are involved you can be absolutely sure that the state is involved on every level.
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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius
    I've read about some German "researchers" who have written about Hepp and Stasi in the book "Nach Hitler - Radikale Rechte rüsten auf".
    That book is a complete pulp novel. You get more substantial information about Hepp in this book:

    Uwe Backes / Eckhard Jesse: Extremismus in Deutschland

    At least it somehow follows scientific guidelines.
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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    Thanks for the information!

    I knew Hepp was cooperating with Stasi, but I thought that he really was a national socialist when he was a member of Hoffmann's group, and later simply became more of a left-wing Nationalist and started to support DDR. So Hepp was an informer/agent all the time, and in reality wasn't even sent to jail?

    Or could it be that Hepp thought he was smart, and tried to take advantage of the state, like the Italians tried to? If the group really understood Niekisch and cooperated with Palestinians, the members must have had some political ideals.

    And what about their alleged plan to rescue Rudolf Hess?

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    Post Re: Michael Kühnen

    Roeder - won't tell you about his involvement either - or the one of his sex slave Sibylle Vorderbrügge either. Nobody heard from her again after her release from prison.
    Manfred Roeder? Was Vorderbrügge also an informer?

    Gundolf Köhler - died in the Munich bomb blast
    Was Köhler a real nationalist and was set up by Hepp?

    Uwe Behrendt - suicide in Lebanon
    In the infamous Muslim(?) training camp?

    Karl-Heinz Hoffmann - won't talk about the WSG Hoffmann anymore; we only know what he wrote in his "autobiographical novel" in the 80s. He was clearly protected by influential people on the upper echelon of power. Lives in Thuringia now as owner of a construction company.
    Are you implying that Hoffmann was an agent?


    I've always wondered if the "militant" groups we had in Sweden in the 1990s were the same kind of set ups. But since they didn't cause too much trouble, I guess they were not. Funny thing is that we even had these Hoffmann-kind-of-groups set up by people in the military.


    Especially when guns and explosives are involved you can be absolutely sure that the state is involved on every level.
    Very true. I think Combat 18 is a good proof that the state still uses the same tactics. I wonder if the German police had anything to do with the latest so-called Brown Army Fraction.

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