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    Mad When is an Illegal Alien an Undocumented Immigrant? Starting NOW!

    House passes immigration Dream Act

    The bill gives young illegal immigrants a path to citizenship if they enroll in college or enlist in the military. Supporters call its passage historic — but Democrats probably don't have enough votes to get it through the Senate.

    By Lisa Mascaro and Kathleen Hennessey

    Tribune Washington Bureau

    December 9, 2010

    Reporting from Washington — The House passed a landmark youth immigration bill known as the Dream Act on Wednesday night largely along party lines, but the measure faces a tough test in the Senate as Democrats struggle to pass priority legislation in the waning days of this Congress.

    Eight Republicans joined in approving the bill, 216 to 198. Thirty-eight Democrats voted no. The measure offers a path to citizenship for young people who were brought to this country illegally before age 16 and who have enrolled in college or entered the military.

    President Obama said the passage was historic. "This vote is not only the right thing to do for a group of talented young people who seek to serve a country they know as their own by continuing their education or serving in the military, but it is the right thing for the United States of America," he said in a statement.

    Obama called on the Senate to follow suit.

    The bill could come up there as soon as Thursday but is unlikely to attract the necessary 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. Republican senators have vowed to block all legislation until a stalemate over the George W. Bush-era tax cuts is resolved. Obama and the GOP have reached a deal, but Democrats haven't signed on.

    The Dream Act isn't the only Democratic priority at stake.

    Earlier in the day, the Senate postponed at least until Thursday a vote on repealing "don't ask, don't tell," the 1993 ban on openly gay personnel in the military.

    Democrats worked late into the night trying to strike a deal with the few Republican senators who support lifting the policy but who have asked for more time to debate it.

    The lame-duck congressional session offers Democrats their best chance to pass both bills because, in January, Republicans will hold the majority in the House and more seats in the Senate.

    The House passed the Dream Act after a late, hastily scheduled vote. Proponents called it the most significant immigration legislation to pass the House in a decade.

    "Let's give the dream kids an opportunity. They are American in every way but a piece of paper," said Luis V. Gutierrez (D-Ill.), a leading supporter. "We have come here to support the rule of law, yes, but to change the law when it is unfair."

    A handful of Republicans in both chambers criticized the Dream Act as "nightmare" amnesty legislation bound to be abused and easily subject to fraud. They said it would create more competition for work in a recession.

    "The American people want us to focus on creating jobs and getting Americans back to work. This will prevent Americans from getting jobs," said Rep. Lamar Smith (R- Texas). "It puts the interest of illegal immigrants ahead of those of law-abiding Americans."

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7164104.story

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    The illegal President is trying to create an army of illegal soldiers who will disarm, imprison, and shoot real Americans.

    Congress passes laws while we sleep... Black Friday was a "shopping holiday" for most Americans. Meanwhile, the debate amongst the law-makers over total food control and "immigration reform" raged on.

    Federal income tax was passed during the Christmas "break".

    Keep your eyes open... and your powder dry.

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    Dream Act

    This is just another attempt to create another loophole in an already unmanageable and unworkable Immigration Policy. In all probability, it will die in the Senate. The only solution lies in enforcement of current Immigration Law and the use of deportation across the board. No matter how many times one is deported.

    "Legislation without teeth, is no soultion to the problems which the Legislation was created to solve".

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    Words and the meaning of words are the key tools of the manipulation of man, and those that have control of words and its meanings has control of those who rely on the use of those words...

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    Associate Press Refers to Illegal Immigrants as ‘Undocumented Citizens’



    The Associated Press shirked their own style guide in a recently published article, using “undocumented citizens” in lieu of their usual “undocumented immigrants.”

    The article with the strange reference was published on September 5 and discusses Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s response to President Donald Trump’s decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

    “The Chicago Sun-Times reports that school officials say about a third of the school’s students are undocumented citizens,” the AP wrote.

    {snip}

    In 2013, the Associated Press dropped “illegal immigrant” from their stylebook.

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    https://www.amren.com/news/2017/09/a...nted-citizens/

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    Well I'm not going to start calling them "undocumented citizens". I will still refer to them as "illegal aliens" or "illegal immigrants".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Out of Germania View Post
    Not undocumented (American) citizens, that's for sure. Undocumented RESIDENT perhaps if you want to be that liberal about it, but never citizen. You become a citizen by birth or at your oath ceremony, that's it.

    I find the word alien so funny, as if we were dropped off here by a UFO or something. I'm a legal ALIEN.
    A democracy is nothing more than mob rule,
    where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffcoat View Post
    Words and the meaning of words are the key tools of the manipulation of man, and those that have control of words and its meanings has control of those who rely on the use of those words...
    And that's a game played pretty often nowadays. Most famous example terms like "racism" and the way it has been loaded over decades. Then there is stuff like "gay marriage" (and "gay" being a recycled word in the first place).

    "undocumented migrant" is a euphemism, for those that didn't care to familiarize and comply with the law of the land they were moving to.

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