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    After I read this I was in a shock.

    Did race mixing happened even during the pagan ages?

    I thought that ancient Germanic,Celtic,Baltic and other North people were tribalists and strongly discouraged racial intermixture.

    http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php...6&postcount=19

    Please tell me whether it is true.

    Also I heard that arabs,iranians were considered as dark as coal which is writen in some old books.

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    Our ancestorz intermixed even with neanderthals, that made us what we are

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    I dont know about mixing with dark skinned people. The vikings often took wives from celtic countries, in Iceland the genetic makeup is about 50% celtic/50% germanic if I remember correctly.

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    May have happened with the Vikings, they were all over the place. Miklagard for instance.

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    I don't think there were many opportunies for race mixing among the pre-Christian era Germanics, Celts & Balts. The Vandals & Goths might be an exception, but they (and their descendents) ended up in places where non-Europids or borderline Caucasians were a majority, e.g. North Africa.

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    Please tell me whether it is true.
    They did a DNA test and found the woman was from the Iran region. This is factual and thus true.

    I thought that ancient Germanic,Celtic,Baltic and other North people were tribalists and strongly discouraged racial intermixture.
    There weren't too many very distant foreigners back then so if they encouraged it, were indifferent to it or opposed to it- does not matter. Because it was not even an option for 99.999% of people. Also make sure you notice the article says the person was royalty and a queen or something. Usually people at the top of society marry into distant royal families and this shouldn't be shocking.

    As for mixing between Celtic, Germanic, Baltic peoples- yes that happened occasionally. As has been pointed out- Iceland is the perfect example for this. Look further into this area if you find it interesting.

    The original population of Iceland was of Nordic and Gaelic origin. This is evident from literary evidence dating from the settlement period as well as from later scientific studies such as blood type and genetic analyses. One such genetics study has indicated that the majority of the male settlers were of Nordic origin while the majority of the women were of Gaelic origin.

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    Of course it happened in pre-Christian Europe. It was just at a far lesser scale than anything we see nowadays.

    I assume the question is more directed towards pre-Christian Germanics, but the answer is still yes, to some degree. The Roman army brought non-Europeans to Germania and Brittania. These foreign troops would have come mostly from the Near East and North Africa. There is certainly the possibility that there were Africans (brought as slaves or otherwise) from further south in Africa that came along as well. The numbers would have been rather small however, and in the long run completely insignificant.

    There's nothing new about miscegenation. It's the scale of said miscegenation and the political agenda behind modern miscegenation which is worrying more so than miscegenation in itself, in my opinion.

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    The Roman army brought non-Europeans to Germania and Brittania.
    I thought the Romans brought a few thousand Ukrainian horsemen (Sarmatians were steppe nomads from southern Ukraine who spoke an Iranian language. In AD 175 Marcus Aurelius hired 8,000 Sarmatians into Roman service sending 5,500 to Britain. ) to Brittania to occupy one town. I am pretty sure they never brought anybody from further than Ukraine into Brittania. As for Germania they never controlled them so they couldn't have brought in very distant slaves. (the Roman territories of Germania Superior and Germania Inferior were very small compared to Germania)

    Germania Inferior was a Roman province located on the left bank of the Rhine, in today's Luxembourg, southern Netherlands, parts of Belgium, and North Rhine-Westphalia left of the Rhine.

    Germania Superior ("Upper Germania"), so called for the reason that it lay upstream of Germania Inferior, was a province of the Roman Empire. It comprised the area of western Switzerland, the French Jura and Alsace regions and south-western Germany.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQKqJDb7fn0

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    If you mean race mixing like Angles and Danes, Angles and Saxons, etc, of course. With Romans? It's a possibility. With Middle-Easterns? The Vikings did trade with them, that we know of. I doubt there were any settlements long enough to have mixed with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynterwade View Post
    I thought the Romans brought a few thousand Ukrainian horsemen (forgot their specific name) to Brittania to occupy one town. I am pretty sure they never brought anybody from further than Ukraine into Brittania. As for Germania they never controlled them so they couldn't have brought in very distant slaves.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQKqJDb7fn0
    There were Near Eastern troops in Brittania. There's a site somewhere which lists all the troops and their origins in Brittania. I definitely recall Syrian regiments, for one.

    The Limes Germanicus (Germanic Frontier):

    Essentially, the Romans controlled Switzerland, Southwestern Germany (the Rhineland) and up into the Netherlands.The Romans founded many cities and towns in this area (Xanten, Trier, Augsburg, Cologne, Speyer, Bonn, Mainz, etc.) most of which grew up around the military encampments, which is to say that the soldiers probably stuck around and some must have had families with local women.

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