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    Cool Dogs Are 'Smarter Than Cats'

    Dogs are cleverer than cats because their friendly character has helped them develop bigger brains, a study set to end the argument between pet lovers has shown.

    The intelligence of “a man’s best friend” has evolved at a greater rate than the less social cat over millions of years, scientists at Oxford University have claimed.

    It was often thought that the feline pet was smarter than its canine counterpart because it needed less attention but researchers have discovered that cat’s brains are smaller because they are less social.

    For the first time scientists have charted the evolutionary history of the brain across different groups of mammals over 60 million years and identified huge variations in how their brains have changed.

    They found that there was a link between the size of an animal’s brain in relation to the rest of its body and how socially active it was.

    The study analysed available data on the brain and body size of over 500 species of living and fossilised mammals. The brains of monkeys grew the most over time followed by horses, dolphins, camels and dogs.

    It found that groups of mammals with relatively bigger brains tended to live in stable social groups. The brains of more solitary mammals such as cats, deer and rhino, grew much more slowly during the same period.

    Previous research had suggested that the growth rate of the brain relative to body size followed a general trend across all animal groups.

    The study published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences overturns this view, showing there is a wide variation in patterns of brain growth across different groups of mammals and not all of them have larger brains – suggesting social animals had to think more.

    Dr Susanne Shultz, who led the research, said: “Dogs have always been regarded as the more social animals while cats like to get on with their own thing alone. But it appears that interaction is good for the brain and extends to other species, like ourselves.

    “We are even more social than monkeys and apes and it is this ability to get on with each other that has helped us dominate the planet.

    “This study overturns the long-held belief that brain size has increased across all mammals. Instead, groups of highly social species have undergone much more rapid increases than more solitary species.

    “This suggests the co-operation and co-ordination needed for group living can be challenging and over time some mammals have evolved larger brains to be able to cope with the demands of socialising.”

    Dr Shultz added: “All dogs are quite good at solving problems, which gives credence to the traditional image of the cunning fox which is a member of the same family. Dogs descended from wolves which appear to have the biggest brains as they live in large family groups.”

    Source http://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/pe...than-cats.html

    Take that cat lovers!

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    This is no suprise to me. good to see .
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    Strange study. There doesn't seem to have been any actual testing of intelligence (such as problem solving, reaction times etc.), just an assumption that bigger brains in relation to body = smarter. Social ability may take up a lot of brain space, but it isn't necessarily an indication of superior intelligence (recluses tend to be smarter, at least in the case humans). That is, it probably doesn't correlate with depth of insight, logical/mathematical understanding and so on.

    In my personal experience, cats are smarter. My dog got silly one day, and in his excitement ran in front of a car travelling about 60 mph. Neither of my cats would ever do that. They also display some very impressive spatial awareness, hunting ability, problem solving ability (how to open doors etc.) and, indeed, social skill (they know how to manipulate me to get what they want -- usually a good scratch or a hug under the covers).

    Cats can do what dogs do (i.e. fetch, respond to commands etc.), it's just not as obvious, because they never want to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    In my personal experience, cats are smarter.
    Hah.....can your cats surf/Drive/catch robbers/mountain climb/talk/catch biscuits in their mouths/hang glide...etc etc....?



    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=561_1291431900

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    Cats are better at survival hunting, as they always can catch mice and birds.
    I guess cats are more intune with there wild instinct because they haven't been domesticated for as long.

    What kind of of animal did the domestic cat descend from?


    There's this door with a knob that doesn't need to be turned to open.
    The cat pushes the door open when it wants in. when the door is shut and the cat wants out the other way, I see a cat paw reach under the door with the palm and claws facing up ward and then it pulls the door open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    Hah.....can your cats surf/Drive/catch robbers/mountain climb/talk/catch biscuits in their mouths/hang glide...etc etc....?
    ...or roll in and eat their own faeces

    This video covers some of those:
    Cat acrobatics


    Catching robbers has nothing really to do with smarts, more to do with a physique cats don't have. The same with mountain climbing, hang gliding and driving. Cats communicate more than dogs, IMO. Dogs can be taught to do a lot of things, but most can't figure much out for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Catching robbers has nothing really to do with smarts, more to do with a physique cats don't have. The same with mountain climbing, hang gliding and driving. Cats communicate more than dogs, IMO. Dogs can be taught to do a lot of things, but most can't figure much out for themselves.
    If robbers were furry and small, they'd think twice before going into that widowed old lady's house. Dogs are easily outsmarted, whereas it seems as though cats can figure their way through puzzles, or they at least stop trying and act dignified if they can't .

    Cats are also excellent at focus, and for the most part, they follow their own rules. I understand that it would be rather difficult to gauge the intelligence of an animal that probably feels it doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.

    I'm a cat guy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    Hah.....can your cats surf/Drive/catch robbers/mountain climb/talk/catch biscuits in their mouths/hang glide...etc etc....?



    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=561_1291431900
    This video is absolutely marvelous, its fantastic.
    I love all dogs and cats, when I was a small boy growing up in Africa I had a ginger Tomcat, he was about 1/3 bigger than normal, all other cats would jump on the table when nobody was near, to lick butter. He never stole anything! He went out hunting hares instead of mice.
    Our neighbours were liberal christian missionary whites, who had always evil Kaffir visitors, who would take shortcuts through our plot. At dawn and dusk my tomcat would have his fun hiding in the grass and once they passed he would attack them at their legs and make his way up scratching, the scenes caused us hilarious joy as you can imagine.

    They must have thought it must be an evil dwarf (tokoloshe, bantu superstition) since they stopped walking through our premise, he was our absolute hero. He always slept at my feet underneath the blanckets in winter, which he entered from my top as though he was first saying "good night", crawling through to the feet. I don´t no what or how he breathed but he was always happily purring. Sadly, I never had a cat like him again, he was just extra ordinary.

    Although, I could tell many adventures I had with my Rottweilers, killing Cobras in split seconds, a four month old puppy arresting Kaffirs, waking me up when my mother had an heart attack, listening only when commanded in soft tone and charging when we slightly raise our voice, everyday these companions are a joy. I could talk days about them.
    Over all, I believe dogs are more intelligent, and by far more useful companions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnerschall View Post
    when I was a small boy growing up in Africa I had a ginger Tomcat, he was about 1/3 bigger than normal, all other cats would jump on the table when nobody was near, to lick butter. He never stole anything! He went out hunting hares instead of mice.
    When my father was a boy growing up in Rhodesia they had a meerkat that they had caught as a baby and trained or domesticated in the house,and he says it was not afraid of anything.
    They were somewhat out in the bush but never had any problems with snakes or scorpions or spiders or other beasts because the meerkat would take care of everything.....even the kaffirs were afraid to come near it.

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    I think because dogs can be put to more industrial uses is the reason for why they seem smarter than cats.
    Cats and dogs are equal at somethings, while being smarter at some things than the other.

    My parents cat knows how to open doors from having observed humans do it. But so can my dogs.

    Their cat also likes to be chased through the house, hiding behind corners and then springing out at you when you have "discovered" her. One of my dogs also knows how to do this, only without the hiding part. He just tears through the house for the sheer joy of it, knowing he is not supposed to and knowing that you are chasing him. Dogs that know they are not supposed to be doing something are usually smart dogs.

    I have seen cats and dogs stalk other animals with equal agility.

    They are also equally adept at demanding, in their own way "Food...NOW!"

    Both are also not above a good fight if the opportunity presents itself, and I have seen cats attack dogs as well as other cats.

    Dogs like cat food, but cats despise dog food, at least the ones that I have observed.

    Overall I have to give the slight edge to the dog, especially when it comes to particular breeds.
    There are some dogs like the Basset Hound that are not the brightest of bulbs, while I have seen Doberman's and Jack Russell Terriers perform amazing feats that no cat could possibly achieve. Cats were designed to be spoiled and are very smart at doing it, while dogs only become dumb if they are too spoiled.

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