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    Question Who Goes to Hel?

    who goes to hel?

    it is my theory that most people good or bad sink down into hel after they die.
    they are in hel until ragnarok.
    after ragnarok the good people go to gimle and the bad people go to niflhel down in the ninth world.
    passing from hel to niflhel is like a second death.

    people that die fighting(martyrs) go to valhalla until ragnarok.

    hel is death and rest and to cover.
    odin gave man a soul that will never die and if you are rightious odin will rais you out of hel, and you will be with him in gimle forever.

    the rightious in hel , valhalla, freyjas hall will be in gimle after ragnarok.

    this is my understanding from reading the eddas and other text.

    what are your thoughts?

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    Life after death.

    The idea that when we norsmen die,we go to some mystical landscape filled with swirling mists and longboats and goblins....and bearded men in furs seems a little far fetched to me.
    Each to his own i suppose.

    Not that i dont discount the idea of some form of life after death....but the present notions that we go to heaven or hell depending on our earthly conduct seem a bit too simplistic for me.

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    i myself am kinda agnostic.


    i meant this post in the context of norse mythology.

    that said, asatru is important to me because it is the religion of the folk.
    i believe in the possibility of an afterlife.no one knows for sure if there is or isn't an afterlife.

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    I'm not a real believer either, but if it all was true, I'd certainly go to hel.

    I'm not a warrior and will likely die a peaceful death, so that kind of rules out Valhalla and whatever Freya's domain is called. I'm not extraordinary physically strong nor a follower of Thor, so I guess he wouldn't want to have me in Thrudvang, either. I don't remember any other alternatives, so yeah, I guess I'll embrace the eternal peace of soul Hel offers
    "Lever dot as slav."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    The idea that when we norsmen die,we go to some mystical landscape filled with swirling mists and longboats and goblins....and bearded men in furs seems a little far fetched to me.
    Just because we figured out Santa Claus wasn't real is not proof enough that heaven doesn't either.
    We humans simply haven't enough evidence to assume that there is or isn't.
    But, what is so wrong with saying "Why not?" It certainly adds some much needed mystery-relief to this numbingly routine life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Just because we figured out Santa Claus wasn't real
    Whaaaaaaaaaaaat.....you mean........tell me you are joking.......

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    I do not believe Odin would not allow a warrior into Valhalla, simply because he didn't die in battle. Hes much wiser than that. i think that was made up by kings to get people to go to battle.
    The coward believes he will live forever
    If he holds back in the battle,
    But in old age he shall have no peace
    Though spears have spared his limbs

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    OP:
    My understanding (far from perfect) is that most end up in Hel's domain.
    It would seem that most in Niflhel (Hel) aren't unhappy. Mostly it seems like simply a place the dead abide.

    Niflehimr seems to be the abode of the evil dead (especially oath-breakers), and is quite unpleasant.

    Whereas Valhal and Folkvangr seem in some places to only be abodes of those slain in battle, whereas other places it seems that Freyja gets have those slain in battle in Folkvangr, and Odhinn gets the rest, and others that died in valor -- not necessarily died in battle, but lead lives of bravery and honor in Valhal.

    But I don't claim to be a Norse scholar.


    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    Life after death.

    The idea that when we norsmen die,we go to some mystical landscape filled with swirling mists and longboats and goblins....and bearded men in furs seems a little far fetched to me.
    Each to his own i suppose.

    Not that i dont discount the idea of some form of life after death....but the present notions that we go to heaven or hell depending on our earthly conduct seem a bit too simplistic for me.
    So what do you believe?
    If you believe nothing, then why post in a thread about it?

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    hel is just temporary untill ragnarok.

    how do you interpret the concept of hel in the odinist/norse tradition?

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