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    Well I have some pretty bad news, my great-great-grandfather who came to America from Germany, came from what is the modern day Polish zone, making me Slavic, although he served as an officer in the German military. Does that mean I am now no longer allowed to remain a member of Skadi, and are my beliefs/efforts in Germanic Preservationism for naught? I can't get rid of these darn genetics, so am I really being fair in my desire to move to Germany and such? Would it be wrong to marry a pure German woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadski View Post
    Well I have some pretty bad news, my great-great-grandfather who came to America from Germany, came from what is the modern day Polish zone, making me Slavic, although he served as an officer in the German military. Does that mean I am now no longer allowed to remain a member of Skadi, and are my beliefs/efforts in Germanic Preservationism for naught? I can't get rid of these darn genetics, so am I really being fair in my desire to move to Germany and such? Would it be wrong to marry a pure German woman?


    No you are not being fair if you chose to move to Germany with slavic blood. Then you want to marry a German girl? We have enough mixed kids here in Germany as it is, adding to the mix is no help, and if you really care about your German side, then sometimes the best thing to do is to stay away. I am no moderator nor you, only you can decide if you should or will remain on skadi. You do realize that what is now Poland was once a big piece of German land called Prussia right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic View Post
    No you are not being fair if you chose to move to Germany with slavic blood. Then you want to marry a German girl? We have enough mixed kids here in Germany as it is, adding to the mix is no help, and if you really care about your German side, then sometimes the best thing to do is to stay away. I am no moderator nor you, only you can decide if you should or will remain on skadi. You do realize that what is now Poland was once a big piece of German land called Prussia right?
    Yes, of course I know that, my great great grandfather served as an officer in the Prussian Armed Forces before moving to the United States before the outbreak of WW1, about 10 years before I think.
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    You'll only wear out your welcome if you continue to imagine yourself to be Slavic, which at this point, from what you've told us, sounds somewhat unwarranted to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadski View Post
    Well I have some pretty bad news, my great-great-grandfather who came to America from Germany, came from what is the modern day Polish zone, making me Slavic, although he served as an officer in the German military.
    Are you sure that means he was a Pole? Have you only learned what area he was from, or is your conclusion based on more detailed findings, like his family history or the language he spoke?

    If he really was a Slav, how do you suppose having 1/16th Slavic ancestry makes you Slavic?

    Personally I think a misdirected sense of preservationism on your part is partially to blame for this impasse - you're American, not German. You're part of a folk which, being a recombination of different European ethnicities, and despite minor non-Germanic components, is racially Europid and pan-ethnically Germanic. A 1/16th Slavic ancestry does not detract from that.

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    No, he spoke Polish, I am pretty certain of that. Well I have never imagined myself as Slavic, I have quite fair skin along with traditional Faelid features of a strong Germanic build. Well my other 15/16th is German, as my mother's family moved to Switzerland and then the USA, so we all came from Prussia. I have always considered myself more German then American and really don't identify with the American people or culture, I yearn to return to my fatherland and serve in the GJ.
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    If he came from Prussia, are you sure he wasnt Prussian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralf Rossa View Post
    If he came from Prussia, are you sure he wasnt Prussian?
    I'm not sure if that is a racial category, as it was not an ethnically based nation, he had Prussian citizenship, he was a military officer, but I know he spoke Polish.
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    This makes you what, 1/16 or 6.25% Polish and 15/16 or 93.25% German --- half of working-class Viennese folk would hard pressed to claim that for themselves. Focus on the vast majority of your heritage, it's not like you just found out your dad was Jewish.

    How are you so certain he spoke Polish though? If it's a surname then it doesn't mean anything at all. I know a man who is 1/16 Polish and 15/16 German (like you claim for yourself), and his children will be 1/32 and 31/32, respectively --- yet will still bear the Polish surname carried on through the paternal line. It don't mean anything if it's just a surname, it could have happened any four hundred ways.

    Either way, what Stormraaf said. The influence is minor enough, and you're talking German-American not German, where many of your fellow Americans will find something non-Germanic some far time back somewhere in the woodpile without detracting from their overall Germanic identification and demeanor. You might have found yourself having difficulties joining the SS-VT, but that's about it.

    Certainly it'd be idiotic if you began to identify with part of your ethnic make-up that is so far back that your eldest living relative might barely have ten years of living memory of. That'd be a bit like all those annoying suddenly appearing "Irish Americans" whose 9x-great-grandfather had an Irish Wolfhound and believed in Leprechauns.
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    Do you have any info about his parents? I mean if he grew up in Prussia, you could be even less slav than you think. Could it be possible his father was polish and his mother was Germanic? Or maybe it goes farther back, maybe his fathers father was polish and that ones wife Germanic. Either way its at most 1/16 of your ancestry its not your like your half black or half jew or something. I imagine many of the American Skadi members cant even claim that much purity.

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    I wouldn't be too bothered with having some Slavic blood in me if I were you, Kadski. Children of colonialism such as yourself, as an American, and myself, as a Boer, are quite mixed in terms of sub-races and nationalities. It's really not something I would bother myself with unduly if I were you. I've got about 15% French heritage and you don't see me denying my Germanic roots.

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