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    Are Nazis On The Rise?

    Are neo-Nazis on the rise? Where in the world can you see a rise in National Socialist sympathy?

    http://grapevine.is/Home/ReadArticle/The-nationalistic-ground-for-neonazism

    The Nationalistic Grounds for Neo-Nazism

    12.11.2010
    Words by Snorri Páll Jónsson Úlfhildarson

    When today’s upswing of fascism and neo-Nazism is discussed, referring to Nazi Germany is a certain taboo and a sidetracking cliché. It is taboo because in the eyes of so many it is never legitimate to compare anything with the Third Reich and the Holocaust. A pitiful offspring of that mindset is the anti-Deutsche arm of Germany’s radical leftist and anarchist movement, which in a fit of collective bad conscience supports the bloody Israeli state. It is a sidetracking cliché because by always looking back at these particular worst-of-all horror events, one can unconsciously ignore or deny the seriousness of what’s happening today.

    A couple of neo-Nazis showed up in a recent mass-protest against the government and parliament, waving their swastika and sun cross flags. Since then, surprisingly little discussion about the matter has taken place, and that has been sidetracked by people belittling the actual threat of fascism as completely lacking context.

    This seems to be based on Iceland’s isolation. Believe it or not, in these times of globalisation and international relations there seems to be a silent agreement about knowing as little as possible about what is happening in the rest of the world. This agreement crystallises in mainstream media coverage, where the appearance of actual world news analysis is an exception from an extremely narrow frame of news content. Even an entire newspaper is now being published shamelessly without any international context.

    One does not have to go far away to witness how serious today’s upswing of fascism is. It manifests itself in two ways. Firstly, in what most people would call extreme cases. In Greece, neo-Nazis and police have for years worked side by side against immigrants and refugees. Seeing a group of Nazis stepping out of police vans, gathering for anti-immigration demos, is not uncommon. In a recent conflict about the cutting of the Khimki-forest close to Moscow, Russia, a neo-Nazi group was hired to guard the construction area and fight with its opponents.

    In second place it is seen in democracy. The Tea Party in the US is a quite non-radical group of super-nationalistic Republicans, but under the surface it is a breeding-ground for NS88 and other Nazi groups, e.g. known for establishing their own “border patrol” by the Mexican Border. In Europe, racist political parties are receiving ever-increased support. Geert Wilders’ Party for Freedom in Holland, the Sweden Democrats with their neo-Nazi past and support, and Pea Kjærsgaard’s Danish People’s Party are few examples. Let us also remember Angela Merkel’s recent announcement about the death of multi-cultural societies.

    After examining such random examples, it would be purely naive to claim that the threat of extreme nationalism is not to be found in Iceland. Very few people dress up in brown shirts with iron crosses but relatively many “normal Icelanders” share the neo-Nazi’s nationalism and xenophobia. This is best seen in the discourse about EU—and by the way, I am not pro-EU—where a big part of the opposition is built on xenophobic, nation-pride exclamations. There is a deep-rooted nationalism in the whole party-political spectrum and though the racist Liberal party vanished into thin air, its members did not. They joined the Independence Party or Blood and Honour, depending on emphasis.

    The problem is ignorance. The ones who condemn neo-Nazis but at the same time wave Icelandic flags on all occasions, feel unity when hearing the national anthem, participate in campaigns like InDefence’s “Icelanders do not look like terrorists!”, talk about Viking-blood and old Icelandic values, and see nothing wrong with Iceland’s refugee policy don’t seem to realise that they themselves are the ground for neo-Nazi existence. Extremes can only come about, sustain and expand if they have a solid base to grow on.

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    He sees a nazi in every person who is not pro Israel.

    the 'Nazis' are on the rise because National-Socialist were just ordinary normal interest of people.

    Today with all the brainwashing by jews to perform national suizid it just normal that people who wake up think how to remedy the situation. You look what is the antagonist of the jewish brainwashing and evil and you naturally look at National-Socialism.

    That Jews and Pro-Israel whites are scared of it is alright and only helps to rise National Socialism. When Jews are scared of it then that is something, that must be something one can use to defeat Jews.

    I doubt, that most of the people mentioned in the article are National-socialist. Geert Wilders for sure is not one.

    It seems to me, that the writer of that article is just using the old jewish scaremonger tactics that whoever opposes their agenda is a 'Nazi', Nazi meaning for them a very evil person.

    Their agenda is falling apart because the National-Socialist laid out the tracks to get rid of Jews and build a strong powerful nation. That is what white people are interested in because they see the destruction of their nations and their wealth right in front of them and most are aware who is behind that. With the rising interested in National-Socialism the characterization of being evil people is looked into closer. Many people find out that the thing really has two sides and there are arguments against the allegation and so deeper so look you see the tactics of Jews and you see them in the light of arguments and facts. what people then realize the evilness of Jewry and that their stance to identify themselves with 'Nazis' is a natural step.

    That all leads to a polarization and finally to a power struggle in a nation, with Jews rapidly losing ground.

    My assessment of an article like that is that they try the old tactics well knowing they don't work as well anymore.

    Once people awakened to the jew agenda there is no reversing it. The brainwashing loses its strength and actually turns into the opposite of its intention. People get clearly more aware of the jewish agenda and how evil it is which in turn makes them stronger in their own stance.

    One aspect of the Illuminaty agenda is to create a chaos and out of this chaos they want to create a new order, the NWO (New World Order).

    I am not really sure the chaos we are running into is the creation of them and I am also not sure they planned the setup like this, with the rising awareness of their evil.

    I don't think we can avoid the chaos at this time in the development but we can prepare to defeat the NWO with its new order building.

    For that, we need more people which are getting aware of their agenda and people who are willing to fight the NWO with every means necessary once the chaos is created.
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    What needs to be realized in modern day society is the difference between Neo-Nazis and National-Socialists, as the two are not the same.

    The distinction has to be made is we are to get anywhere as a movement, or to be taken seriously for that matter.

    I can see why "Neo-Nazis" are on the rise is because that movement appeals to the lower class man (Sudras), the man who relies on gratuitous violence and hatred as opposed to understanding the ideology and diplomatic progress. (yet at the same time claiming that violence is the only way to succeed *facepalm*)
    Those who are professed neo-nazis are those who bite the bait of Zionist overlords, and further social dis-cohesion by racist attacks, protests, and garnering support and new members to it's tribe, widening the gap in the European folk, thus committing Judaized behavior (how Jews encourage non-Jews to behave, so as to benefit Jews/NWO conspirators)
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    At seems that original National-Socialism is a preservative political stance whereas Neo-Nazis have a supremacist stance.

    It looks also like National-Socialism showed through their preservative action superiority over others in technical developement, social cohesion, humanity to its weaker part, in warfare and so on. Thought it was not planned to be used for subdueing other people it was more meant for the benefit of their own people.

    NeoNazi claim those traits simply by association. They call themselves like that and then claim in their own eyes the superiority of germanic people. they need to do that as a reaction of the marginalizing of white males by jewish propaganda.

    So I would not disown them but I think they have their place and their use. At least they have potential. In the early stages of NS they had a lot of those people, out of them they formed the SA as a fighting group against communism and the protection of the party.

    I think one can do something similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walhalla-Wacht View Post
    I can see why "Neo-Nazis" are on the rise is because that movement appeals to the lower class man (Sudras), the man who relies on gratuitous violence and hatred as opposed to understanding the ideology and diplomatic progress.
    Diplomatic progress? How the hell can we make any diplomatic progress when all of the colored mongrols are in charge? They hire their own, accept their own into universities, give their own loans. The White people do not get any of this. We are at a huge disadvantage. In the past when nothing could be done, what did people use to overthrow it, brute force. It is needed & we all need to be trained, educated & in the right position at the right time to take back what is ours.
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    I don't think the Tea Party are neo Nazi or in any way like the Nazi's.

    I see the anti-Immigrant stance as the white (no pun intended) blood cells that fight to preserve the body from infection. This is Nature.

    If I were a fool and I went into a lions den, and the lion ate me, does that make the lion a neo-Nazi?

    If I stuck my snout into a bees nest and the bees stung me does that make them neo-Nazi?

    It is a Natural instinct to protect your home, your family and your people.

    If that's Nazism then virtually every culture and living thing that's ever walked, crawled, flew or swam in all of Creation is a fully signed up member!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HugunotWehrwolf View Post
    Also, diplomatic progress? How the hell can we make any diplomatic progress when all of the colored mongrols are in charge? They hire their own, accept their own into universities, give their own loans. The White people do not get any of this. We are at a huge disadvantage. In the past when nothing could be done, what did people use to overthrow it, brute force. It is needed & we all need to be trained, educated & in the right position at the right time to take back what is ours.
    There are hardly any "colored mongrols" in power in Europe, only "whites" who cater to them, and the mongrol you refer to is only Barack Obama. All of whose which policies are to benefit minorities so as to incite interracial violence by inequality. You seem to be blaming the effect, not the cause, and also seem to overlook gentile fallibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walhalla-Wacht View Post
    What needs to be realized in modern day society is the difference between Neo-Nazis and National-Socialists, as the two are not the same.

    The distinction has to be made is we are to get anywhere as a movement, or to be taken seriously for that matter.

    I can see why "Neo-Nazis" are on the rise is because that movement appeals to the lower class man (Sudras), the man who relies on gratuitous violence and hatred as opposed to understanding the ideology and diplomatic progress. (yet at the same time claiming that violence is the only way to succeed *facepalm*)
    Those who are professed neo-nazis are those who bite the bait of Zionist overlords, and further social dis-cohesion by racist attacks, protests, and garnering support and new members to it's tribe, widening the gap in the European folk, thus committing Judaized behavior (how Jews encourage non-Jews to behave, so as to benefit Jews/NWO conspirators)
    How many skins do you know? How many have you met? Because your words speak of someone that knows of skins ONLY from what the media says and portrays of them.. I agree that some are going about it in the wrong way, but the way I look at it is, atleast they are taking action and doing something with their own two hands.. They are the ones here in Germany that go to marches, they are the ones raising our flags here in Germany and not because of some stupid football game where Germany wins!!! I might add winning with a bunch of foreigners on a German team. They wave our flags and fly them come rain or shine not because its a cool thing to do, but because they bleed our Fatherlands colors and it runs in their hearts..
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    I've known plenty, mind you. I've grown up in the "Aryan" Nations place of stronghold for god's sake. I used to be anti-nazi/facist, and that included skinheads, then I became National-Socialist, however my view on "skins" stays the same: pasty, hairless, trolls who are detrimental to the National-Socialist movement.

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    Like Ocko says, they have the capacity to change, and I recommend they do, but they love to hate, for it's the emotion that most caters to irrational behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walhalla-Wacht View Post
    Call me a nigger if you'd like, Teutonic, but your low brow remarks won't sway my view of skinheads (I've known plenty, mind you. I've grown up in the "Aryan" Nations place of stronghold for god's sake). I used to be anti-nazi/facist, and that included skinheads, then I became National-Socialist, however my view on "skins" stays the same: pasty, hairless, trolls who are detrimental to the National-Socialist movement.

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    Like Ocko says, they have the capacity to change, and I recommend they do, but they love to hate, for it's the emotion that most caters to irrational behavior.
    Your opinion on skins is from the USA, and sorry to burst your bubble but they are worlds apart here in Germany and most of Europe in comparison to the USA.. Most skins here in Germany go about their lives as normal citizens, work, sleep, family,football.. Ive seen many walk right past asians, turks in the streets of Dresden and Berlin at night and never say anything to them. They usually are only violent when provoked and they have every right to be angry, because its usually foreigners and Antifa assholes like the one that made that horrible video you posted doing the provocation. That video is one of the biggest misinformed propaganda tools I have ever seen. They used real nationalists as skins for the video? Nick Griffin isnt a neonazi skinhead.
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