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    Declining Racial Demographics Internationally

    I wanted to create this thread as a attempt to record our declining population rates internationally and then to project such recorded statistics by a future outline of gradual decline in numbers overtime should our varying situations not change at all.

    Being that I live in the United States I think I will start by outlying it's future stastical rates.

    [When you follow suit outlining the future statistical rates of your population's decline within your nation please insert the link of reference here within the thread.]


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    At the moment on wikipedia in the year 2010 it says the demographic part of whites currently residing within the United States is 79.8% nation wide.

    [Some actually think it is much lower than that.]

    That number is misleading and doesn't really imply majority dominance here in the populance of the United States at all. Why?

    Quite simply because a large majority of that 79.8% are the remnants of the baby boomer generation of the 1950's meaning that a majority of that number are the elderly or the older segment of the populance ranging from their fifties to their eighties.

    [Which now brings me to my next point illustrated in the quote below.....]

    Non-Hispanic whites will become a minority in the United States by 2050, with immigrants and their children driving 82 percent of U.S. population growth in coming years, a new study said on Monday.

    The U.S. population will grow to 438 million in 2050 from 296 million in 2005 if current population trends continue, the Pew Research Center study found.

    Non-Hispanic whites would account for 47 percent of the total in 2050, it concluded.

    By that time, one in every five Americans will be a foreign-born immigrant, compared to one in eight in 2005.

    "Of the 117 million people added to the population in this period due to the effect of new immigration, 67 million will be the immigrants themselves and 50 million will be their U.S.-born children or grandchildren," the study said.

    While the white population, with its lower fertility rate, ages, the Latino population, the nation's largest minority, will triple in size. Latinos will be responsible for 60 percent of the population growth until 2050.

    They will account for 29 percent of the population, or 128 million in 2050, up from 14 percent now, the study said.

    "The number of whites will increase, but only by 4 percent," said D'Vera Cohn, one of the report's authors.

    The Asian population will almost double in percentage terms, from 5 to 9 percent, while blacks will remain around 13 percent of the total, the report said.

    At the same time, the elderly population will more than double as the baby boom generation retires. The number of children and working-age people will grow more slowly.

    Almost half of the new immigrants arriving the country will be from Latin American countries, said the other author of the study, Jeffrey S. Passel from the Pew Hispanic Center.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1110177520080212

    So now a future statistical rate of projection can look somthing like this:

    2050 - 47%

    2100- 27%

    2140 - 10%

    2200- 000.5%


    Somthing like that estimated above that I have outlined is the way I see the future existence of whites within the United States should current trends continue unadulterated.


    I don't know much about the demographics of other countries so it should be interesting if we follow the same method of projection for each differing country facing similar circumstances.

    What country should we futurely project in declining population trends next? Germany, Norway, Iceland, England, or Ireland?

    I really would like to apply this task to all western European nations including the European colony nations like the United States in this thread where I welcome anybody that is up to the task in assisting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    United States

    At the moment on wikipedia in the year 2010 it says the demographic part of whites currently residing within the United States is 79.8% nation wide.

    [Some actually think it is much lower than that.]

    That number is misleading and doesn't really imply majority dominance here in the populance of the United States at all. Why?

    Quite simply because a large majority of that 79.8% are the remnants of the baby boomer generation of the 1950's meaning that a majority of that number are the elderly or the older segment of the populance ranging from their fifties to their eighties.

    [Which now brings me to my next point illustrated in the quote below.....]



    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1110177520080212

    So now a future statistical rate of projection can look somthing like this:

    2050 - 47%

    2100- 27%

    2140 - 10%

    2200- 000.5%


    Somthing like that estimated above that I have outlined is the way I see the future existence of whites within the United States should current trends continue unadulterated.



    @AlaricLacclan: When looking up racial statistics for the US, or any part of the US, it is important to remember that pisky ethnic catagory called HISPANICS!. Most are counted as White, when in actuality they are Mestizo (significant Amerindian blood, many times more then the Europid component) or Negro, especially among Hispnaics from the Caribbean Basin or countries like Colombia.

    Sometimes the non-Hispanic White statisitics are given, many times you have to look for them. The non-Hispanic propotion is cited at Wikipedia. (Non-Hispanic) Whites are currently estimated at 64.7%. Subtract 2% for Jews & another 1% for peripheral Caucasians (Arabs, Armenians, Persians etc...) and that would bring it down to 61.7%. Btw, Asian Indians are not counted as White by the Federal Government, the boundary between the ancestoral Caucasian & Asian regions being designated (by bureaucrats in the US government) as the Afghan & Iranian borders with Pakistan.

    Nordish Europids make up about 150-160 million of the US population.

    To put the demographic revolution/disaster in persceptive in the year of my birth (1962) the US population was 187 million, Whites made up 87-88% (163 million) of that, & it didn't include Mexicans or Puerto Ricans. Today there are 310 million persons living in America & 200 million are non-Hispanic White. The non-Whites have more then quadtruped in less then 50-years (24 million to 110 million), Hispanics ( the phrase was even used at the time, it didn't become widely used until the 80s) were maybe 2-3 million, mostly Mexicans in the Southwest, Puerto Ricans in New York & the beginnings of a Cuban colony in Miami. Now Hispanics are nearly 50 million. Asians( or Orientals as the were called) were under 1/2 of 1% (less then a million) on the early sixties, mostly confined to Hawaii & certain sections of California. Now Asiana are nearly 5%, over 13 million. The cause is threefold. 1; The 1965 Immigration Reform Act, which allowed millions of non-Whites to immigrate to the US, 2; the 14th Amendment with the phrase "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside", which has been interpreted to mean thatr everyone born in the US (children of diplomats excluded) is a US citizen regardless of whether their parents are citizens (and subject to the jurisdiction) of other countries. 3; Social welfare policies that allow non-Whites to have more children then they can afford, especially Negroes with an illegitimacy rate of 72% & most of those children qualifying their mothers for various programs (ADC, Food Stamps, Section 8 Housing, Medicaid, subsidized breakfast & luch at school). These programs are also available to anchor babies because they are US citizens () who's families many times have no or little official sources of income (because they are often paid in cash).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    2050 - 47%

    2100- 27%

    2140 - 10%

    2200- 000.5%
    I think projections like this of use, especially when they accompany an attack on democracy or on free immigration, but if you want to to project the numerical decline of the race then you should project the numerical decline of the race - that is, with numbers: "180 million now, 100 million later, 2 million much later." When you attempt to show a decline with ratios of the race against every other race, a growing population can register as a declining population.

    To demonstrate that a declining population is very different from a declining percentage, imagine that we're concerned with races across the whole of the Earth, but an Earth where population, in numbers and location, is much like it was in the year 1800. Now add this: an agricultural marvel makes it way to sub-Saharan Africa, and permits that region to explode in population - to ten thousand times its previous population, to a rise from 30% to 70% of the world population - something like this. Now ask: has there also been an explosive rise in the threat to Germanic survival? Note well, the problem is that there are vastly more of the same people who never invented the wheel, pottery, or a written language.

    Even within a country, even in a democracy, even with an socially-accepted racial spoils system, if it's only the percentages that decrease then I can still think: any generation now, people will wake up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuehnelt View Post
    I think projections like this of use, especially when they accompany an attack on democracy or on free immigration, but if you want to to project the numerical decline of the race then you should project the numerical decline of the race - that is, with numbers: "180 million now, 100 million later, 2 million much later." When you attempt to show a decline with ratios of the race against every other race, a growing population can register as a declining population.

    To demonstrate that a declining population is very different from a declining percentage, imagine that we're concerned with races across the whole of the Earth, but an Earth where population, in numbers and location, is much like it was in the year 1800. Now add this: an agricultural marvel makes it way to sub-Saharan Africa, and permits that region to explode in population - to ten thousand times its previous population, to a rise from 30% to 70% of the world population - something like this. Now ask: has there also been an explosive rise in the threat to Germanic survival? Note well, the problem is that there are vastly more of the same people who never invented the wheel, pottery, or a written language.

    Even within a country, even in a democracy, even with an socially-accepted racial spoils system, if it's only the percentages that decrease then I can still think: any generation now, people will wake up.
    but if you want to to project the numerical decline of the race then you should project the numerical decline of the race - that is, with numbers: "180 million now, 100 million later, 2 million much later." When you attempt to show a decline with ratios of the race against every other race, a growing population can register as a declining population.

    How would you go about it given the public sources of information on the subject?
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    I've noticed it's pretty difficult in finding racial demographics for specific countries almost like it's intentionally not listed.

    [BTW Anybody else feel free to add to this thread anytime.]

    Territory : Ireland

    Ethnic groups: Irish 87.4%, other white 7.5%, Asian 1.3%, black 1.1%, mixed 1.1%, unspecified 1.6% (2006 census)

    Definition: This entry provides an ordered listing of ethnic groups starting with the largest and normally includes the percent of total population.

    Source: CIA World Factbook - Unless otherwise noted, information in this page is accurate as of November 3, 2010

    http://www.indexmundi.com/ireland/ethnic_groups.html

    [ Other white (Non Irish white) means eastern European immigrants from areas like Poland and such.]

    Territory: Spain

    Native-born Spanish citizens of all races and ethnic groups make up 88% of the total population, and 12% are immigrants. Among the immigrants, around 57% of them come from Spain's former colonies in Latin America (including those from Cuba, Mexico, Chile and Uruguay), Africa and Asia. The rest are mostly Eastern European (especially Russians, Serbians, Croatians, Bosnians, Ukrainians and Albanians), North and West Africans (notably Moroccans, Algerians, Senegalese, Nigerians and Cameroonians), Middle Eastern peoples including the Lebanese and Syrian communities, Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese, as well as a sizeable number of citizens from the European Union, as of 2007 mostly Romanians, Bulgarians, Polish, Portuguese, British and Germans.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Spain

    Another example of a nation not having any public record of racial demographics.

    Territory: Portugal


    The Portuguese people represent a mixture of various ethnic strains. In the north are traces of Celtic influence; in the south, Arab and Berber influence is considerable. Other groups—Lusitanians, Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Romans, Visigoths, and Jews—also left their mark on the Portuguese people. The present-day Portuguese population is one of the most homogeneous in Europe, with the only minority being the less than 100,000 citizens of back African descent who immigrated to the mainland during decolonization.

    http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/E...IC-GROUPS.html

    All I could find on Portugal which really isn't alot although if you wiki Portugal it tells you all the many population type ethnic groups that live in Portugal but in no way configures them through percentage in a detailed manner to represent demographics of race.


    Territory: England
    88.2% White, 5.7% South Asian, 2.8% Black, 1.7% Mixed race, 0.8% Chinese, 0.7% Other
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England

    Territory: Scotland
    The ethnic groups within Scotland are as follows: White, 97.99%; South Asian, 1.09%; Black, 0.16%; Mixed, 0.25%; Chinese, 0.32% and Other, 0.19%
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland#Demography

    Territory: Wales

    According to the 2001 census, 96% of the population was White British, and 2.1% non-white (mainly of British Asian origin).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales#Demographics
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    How would you go about it given the public sources of information on the subject?
    One simple way would be to do what you were already doing, but to also get the projected total population along with each projected percentage. The projected Germanic percentage * the projected total population = the projected Germanic population.

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