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    Criminal justice system 'racist'

    Cape Town - The new deputy police minister has described South Africa’s criminal justice system as racist, saying it needs to be transformed as black criminals are given harsher sentences than their white counterparts. Maggie Sotyu, the new deputy minister of police, made this statement in Parliament on Tuesday after a report on extensive research regarding the scope and nature of violent crime was published by the Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation (CSVR).

    Sotyu referred to a “white person or boer who drags a black farm worker behind his bakkie and gets off with a R10 000 fine. But a black man who murders a white farmer gets life in prison. That’s racist politics.” According to her, the criminal justice system needs transformation “because people in the same country aren’t treated equally. It’s about time our courts realise this is the new South Africa.”

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    Sotyu was speaking to the media after the parliamentary portfolio committee for police and the secretariat of police pulled the CSVR’s research to pieces. The finding which came under most fire is that South Africa is caught up in a subculture of violence. Based on the annual murder rate, South Africa is one of the five most violent countries in the world. The secretariat argued that South Africa’s violent crime “is not extraordinary” and that various other countries have similar or even higher levels.

    MPs and committee secretary Jennifer Irish-Qhobosheane labelled the CSVR’s research - for which government paid R3.5m - as inadequate, disappointing and incomplete. In their opinion, the research provided no new insights or reasons for the extremely violent nature of crime in South Africa. According to Irish-Qhobosheane, the department has serious concerns about the research, undertaken in 2007 on the instructions of Charles Nqakula, then minister of safety and security. “It’s useful, but it doesn’t provide anything new. The recommendations aren’t even creative.”

    Sindi Chikunga, ANC MP and committee chairperson, referred to the Democratic Republic of Congo which, after years of warfare, is so safe that people can exchange currency on the streets. “There are heaps of weapons in the DRC, and Kinshasa is dirt poor, yet their crime isn’t nearly as violent (as ours). What’s so unique about the situation in South Africa? I can’t find the answer in your report,” she said to Adèle Kirsten, director of the CSVR.

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    Pieter Groenewald from the Freedom Front Plus pointed out gruesome farm attacks “where elderly people are tortured with steam irons and attackers flee without even taking anything. Why the brutality? These questions have not been answered.” According to Kirsten, extreme violence is the result of various complicated reasons. “You won’t find a single (simple) answer anywhere - not from us and not from international researchers.”

    David Bruce, also from the CSVR, is of the opinion that alternative research, such as psychological profiling, is needed to determine what motivates criminals to commit such brutal and violent acts. The situation in South Africa is unique because of the migrant labour system, forced on the Witwatersrand by the apartheid government, which destroyed thousands of families. Furthermore, the gap between rich and poor is wider here than in any other country in the world.

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    This is the words of South Africas deputy minister of police? This country is going downwards very fast! All this is going on and no comments coming from the international community? Sorry I forgot that this is what we deserve! Since when can a(Educated, qualified?!) minister of police make such remarks of a justice system adapted by blacks for blacks?

    Sotyu referred to a “white person or boer who drags a black farm worker behind his bakkie and gets off with a R10 000 fine. But a black man who murders a white farmer gets life in prison. That’s racist politics.”
    There is one BIG difference! Farm murders and the horrible brutality that accompany them happens on a daily basis and the victim end up being MURDERED. In the other it happenned three times at most and the victims were not killed! This is a flawed logic that could only come from a 'primitive' mind. The biggest racists in this country is the blacks!

    Based on the annual murder rate, South Africa is one of the five most violent countries in the world. The secretariat argued that South Africa’s violent crime “is not extraordinary” and that various other countries have similar or even higher levels.
    I wonder which countries she is referring to? Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Somalia? Crime is an acceptable part of their culture and as long as that will be the case the crime rate in our country would only get worse.

    They are a violent nation and we are just accepting it... We should really wake the f**k up and see that our country is burning! It was never theirs to start with as they did not make a significant contribution since the stoneage. They did not even arrive in South Africa untill we arrived, the only indigenous people being the San but they are nearly extinct. Yet the beasts claim that it is theirs. It is time for a worldwide revolution to take our lands back. It will be like a bucket of blood that will be tipped but in the end we would emerge victorious!

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    Sotyu referred to a “white person or boer who drags a black farm worker behind his bakkie and gets off with a R10 000 fine. But a black man who murders a white farmer gets life in prison. That’s racist politics.”
    I was going to ask about this passage, whether "dragging someone behind a bakkie" is some weird way to imply that someone gets killed, but obviously it doesnt say that at all.

    So, beating someo...thing now has to be treated the same like murder? Or rather vice versa, that a black who kills a white gets away with a R10 000 fine? In order that he isnt treated "so racist"???

    Indeed a sorry state of mind for someone who carries responsibility... but it also shows how far all this pc nonsense has gone meanwhile. I mean, which sane person would even dare to compare both sorts of crime? Or even demand that murder results in a fine instead of life in prison? That's just sick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    I was going to ask about this passage, whether "dragging someone behind a bakkie" is some weird way to imply that someone gets killed, but obviously it doesnt say that at all.
    No she was just referring to two cases I know of where farmers tied farmworkers behind their pick-up trucks with a rope, and then pulled them for a short distance over a gravel road. The most serious injuries that resulted were a few cuts and 'grassburns'.

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    What the uneducated bitch does not understand is that in those countries that have equal or more violence there are NO civilized white inhabitants. Africans cope with violence because that is the way of life and has been for centuries and will be for centuries. Their expectations are different. They love different. They mourn different. They 'suffer' different. The reality of it is that present day Africa is no country for white man...and that is very hard to accept, because the place is paradise.

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    Darn right it's racist...against whites, most crimes are commited by blacks and from the sounds of it many are let of due to "insufficient evidence".

    What is happening to SA?

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