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    Racial Nihilism

    It goes as the following that through racial nihilism in our modern environment race has become trivialized to the point of randomity that it has essentially become irrelevant within the context of our international increasingly forced integrated multicultural society through the perspective of racial nihilism where it's become accepted in dominant thought that race doesn't matter where race is thought to be purely a construct.

    To all of that as a racist [where by using the word racist I'm using it loosely as a word that signifies somebody to which race is important to in identity and distinguishment.] all I have to say is, so what?

    Nihilism is a double blade for you see if nothing matters where often enough all the many social emblems that are embraced within society just so happen to be constructs also, the fact remains that there is no reason as why race can't play a important role in people's lives where there is no universal order to reference which a person can say to another that embraces racial identity as being 'wrong' thereby leaving the trumped up so called elevated moral sentiments of the anti racist to be nothing more than a false judgement based upon nothing at all beyond malicious hyped up hearsay.

    It goes without saying that cultural,ethnic, and national identity revolve around race irregardless if it's a social construct because race is a important feature of culture especially when it concerns it's aesthetical qualities or biological transference within the context of culture.

    If you are really going to trivialize, reduce, and make somthing like race as being irrelevant with the sort of attitude that nothing matters where anything goes which often enough is a stance of nihilism when it concerns this subject then you are going to have to accept that in a world where nothing matters where anything goes under that same very token of nihilism there are going to be those who hold race to be the very fabric of their individual and collective identity whether you like it or not.

    The moment you outlaw and defame such identity on the basis of some sort of discerning judgement the evidence is on you for providing some sort of clear cut or logical explanation as to why you feel like you have some sort of elevated basis to pass judgement on others in the first place to which you view other people's behavior to be in the 'wrong' considering that anti racists in contrast typically take the approach of having some sort of trumped up elevated social morality when they pass judgement on those that embrace racial identities for whatever reasons.

    To this I want a explanation of anti racists specifically those who hold a remarkable grudge against those that embrace racial indentity as a part of their lives in that I wish to know how they are passing any form of discernable judgement on their part considering I have never seen any valid arguement from them beyond defamation aided and abided by internationalist multicultural social propaganda.
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    Excellent post.

    I've tried to define it a bit further though- the way I see it is that there is a spectrum of discrimination ranging from lower level discrimination to higher level discrimination.

    Level 0 No Discrimination- You don't care who you marry. You really don't even see or think about race.
    Level 1 Marriage Discrimination- You discriminate the race of your marriage partner.
    Level 2 Neighborhood Discrimination- You would prefer to live in a neighborhood that is of predominately a certain race. In other words you wouldn't consider raising your family in China town, or the ghetto.
    Level 3 Relationship Discrimination- You discriminate people you come into contact with and who your friends are.
    Level 4 Employment Discrimination- You discriminate who you employ.
    Level 5 Judicial Discrimination- You/Government discriminate in court.
    Level 6 Governmental Discrimination- Government is racially based and openly discriminates.

    Level 3 and under is legal. Level 4 and up is illegal.
    (I'm only a level 2 Discriminator.)

    A lot of racial nihilists do not realize these levels and instead they think there is only one form of discrimination and it is level 6 and is pure evil.

    Our society needs to recognize that certain forms of discrimination are logical and acceptable. Discrimination shouldn't be taboo.

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    Sadly, most peoples "understanding" of nihilism is shaped by watching The Big Lebowski a few too many times.

    Might I suggest reading some of the articles by the American Nihilistic Underground Society (abbreviated as ANUS)?

    I've selected a few articles that deal with racial issues, and will also post a link to their entire article section, for those who wish to read further. At the risk of sounding like a cheesy liberal, read with an open mind.

    Belief in Nothing
    Putting Race in Context
    White Power
    Surviving Multiculturalism
    Fascism
    Cultural Revival
    What I Desire
    Nordicism vs Pan-Aryanism, and Preservationism
    Radical Traditionalism and Nihilism
    The Danger of Racism and Anti-Semitism (again, have an open mind)
    Cultural Revival (not the same article as the one above, just the same title)
    Anti-Semitism
    Race: Race is Important, Racism is Not
    Nobody Wants Your Apocalyptic Hate Cult
    Why I am not a "White" Nationalist or neo-Nazi (again, open mind)
    And the rest!

    Edit: Okay, so the first article "Belief in Nothing" doesn't explicitly deal with racial issues [as far as I can recall], but I linked to it because it clears up a lot of misconceptions about nihilism in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynterwade View Post
    Excellent post.

    I've tried to define it a bit further though- the way I see it is that there is a spectrum of discrimination ranging from lower level discrimination to higher level discrimination.

    Level 0 No Discrimination- You don't care who you marry. You really don't even see or think about race.
    Level 1 Marriage Discrimination- You discriminate the race of your marriage partner.
    Level 2 Neighborhood Discrimination- You would prefer to live in a neighborhood that is of predominately a certain race. In other words you wouldn't consider raising your family in China town, or the ghetto.
    Level 3 Relationship Discrimination- You discriminate people you come into contact with and who your friends are.
    Level 4 Employment Discrimination- You discriminate who you employ.
    Level 5 Judicial Discrimination- You/Government discriminate in court.
    Level 6 Governmental Discrimination- Government is racially based and openly discriminates.

    Level 3 and under is legal. Level 4 and up is illegal.

    I'm a level 2 Discriminator.

    Our society needs to recognize that certain forms of discrimination is logical and acceptable.

    Discrimination shouldn't be taboo.
    It's interesting that certain forms of discrimination is accepted while other forms are rejected for being taboo even when it's odd that the forms that are accepted have no taboo status whatsoever in comparison which just shows how society is anything but being completely egalitarian.

    I had a idea to make this thread because I recently joined a anti racist website of which I'm a guest oppositional speaker.

    http://www.racedebate-msf.org/forums...ead.php?t=3338

    You can watch my progress being made there.


    BlueEyedBeast

    Sadly, most peoples "understanding" of nihilism is shaped by watching The Big Lebowski a few too many times.
    Indeed....That's what I like to call pop nihilism which unfortunately most people fail to understand it's more deeper intellectual underpinnings when it concerns nihilism as a whole existentially.

    [I think most people are incapable of seeing it because either they are too moronic or domesticated to the point of sedation.]
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    I had a idea to make this thread because I recently joined a anti racist website of which I'm a guest oppositional speaker.
    On that website I have a million things to say to just that one response you received.

    Culture on the other hand, completely distinct from race,
    First of all the commenter doesn't realize that Culture is created by race. Different environmental constraints lead us to develop vastly different genetics (personalities and behaviors and mental abilities ON AVERAGE between different races). Our different perceptions (created by genetic differences) lead us to vastly different society structures and ways of viewing and precieving the world. Culture is judgment and differnet races precieve thigns differently. Read the book "Geography of thought" by Nisbett for examples.

    race is a useless attribute upon which no rational judgements can be made of any individual, and as such I see racism as irrational at best. It is fundamentally flawed at the epistemological level and has no scientific basis.
    Yes based on race alone a judgement cannot be made of an individual but based on race alone completely different estimates of judgement, behavior, perceptions and culture can be made. He needs to read the book "The Bell Curve" By Murray to understand behavioral average differences between races (which are vast and have little overlap). Next he should read that book "G-Factor" by Arthur Jensen to understand the mental complexities that differentiate races. Next he should read the book "10,000 Year Explosion" to understand the genetic AND MENTAL differences between races. Races are vastly different and our diversity needs to be cherished and preserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynterwade View Post
    On that website I have a million things to say to just that one response you received.


    First of all the commenter doesn't realize that Culture is created by race. Different environmental constraints lead us to develop vastly different genetics (personalities and behaviors and mental abilities ON AVERAGE between different races). Our different perceptions (created by genetic differences) lead us to vastly different society structures and ways of viewing and precieving the world. Culture is judgment and differnet races precieve thigns differently. Read the book "Geography of thought" by Nisbett for examples.


    Yes based on race alone a judgement cannot be made of an individual but based on race alone completely different estimates of judgement, behavior, perceptions and culture can be made. He needs to read the book "The Bell Curve" By Murray to understand behavioral average differences between races (which are vast and have little overlap). Next he should read that book "G-Factor" by Arthur Jensen to understand the mental complexities that differentiate races. Next he should read the book "10,000 Year Explosion" to understand the genetic AND MENTAL differences between races. Races are vastly different and our diversity needs to be cherished and preserved.
    You should check out my phenomenal reply back on that website.

    [Everything else you said for the most part were in agreement.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    It goes without saying that cultural,ethnic, and national identity revolve around race irregardless if it's a social construct because race is a important feature of culture especially when it concerns it's aesthetical qualities or biological transference within the context of culture.
    Actually that race is a social construct demonstrates exactly why race is important. This goes along with the culture creates race, race creates culture argument which is comparable to arguing about the chicken and egg.

    One thing is certain, race is a part of one's identity but is not the whole of it. When a people begin to see race as the be all and end all of their identity is when they cease to be useful to the race as creators of culture because they become consumed with a purpose that is irrelevant to the creation of culture. Some try to argue that there is no greatness or genius left in the race but these are more than likely men or women who contribute nothing to the race and expect that their blood alone and their claim on the past entitles them to worth. Nothing to me is more pointless. It is those very people, that if they truly wished to preserve their race would be actively creating positive culture. They would be the superior artists and the superior musicians and architects (on and on) of today. Instead, they have squandered their days and their talent on a self perpetuating cause and so they are the ones who should shoulder the blame for the lack of greatness and the growing tendency of racial regression. Thus I wonder how relevant a racialist truly is to their race if they have brought nothing of beauty into the world.

    In aesthetic terms it not the mass that achieves excellency as excellency is obtainable only when the individual consciously separates itself from that mass. So then the question for me at least is what conditions allow the individual to grow best. I have no easy answer for this question but I am sure that the conditions that allow the mass to flourish, hinders the individual of a strong Germanic spirit, as this spirit has obtained it's greatness through self conflict opposed to the Latin spirit that grew in subservience under the toil of slaves and the balmy skies of civilization.

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    In the original sense of the word, nihilism entailed only the premise that nothing has absolute value. Nothing is a priori ruled out. Knowledge requires truth. If there is no truth in something then there can be no knowledge of it. This is a very liberating concept when applied to authoritarian or concensus demands, and it is a perspective not at all dependant upon the Western notions about the individual: individualism is after all a value. Similarly antiracism is a value: usually they endorse the idea of one human race, which is another value, a double standard opening them up to deconstruction. Think what someone believes and why it is false and go right for the jugular.

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