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    Nigel Farage (UKIP) Strikes Again!

    Farage attacks Barroso over politically explosive EU direct tax

    In democratic politics there is a distinct difference between selection and election. However, according to European Commission President, José Barroso, the two are interchangeable.

    Barroso tore into British member of European Parliament Nigel Farage today, after the UK Independence Party member accused Barroso of using illegitimate powers to implement a direct tax on all EU citizens.

    “Well Mr Barroso, you’re certainly flexing your muscles, using the powers given to you by the Lisbon Treaty, which you pushed through using illegitimate means.” Farage said in a speech before the EC.

    “You now do everything you can on the world stage and within the EU to acquire all the attributes of statehood.” he added.

    “No where could that be more apparent than in your recent proposal for a direct tax to be levied by the European institutions on the peoples of this continent.”

    As we highlighted yesterday, the EC has laid out no less than eight different forms of direct taxation that it wants to impose on citizens of all 27 member states, despite the fact that the majority of people in all of these countries would rather their governments cease all financial commitments to the EU entirely.

    Not content with national governments from every member country already sending taxpayer money to the bloated, anti-democratic EU bureaucracy, globalists in Brussels are now desperate to sink their teeth in further, in an effort to increase their budget by 6 per cent even in the midst of a national debt crisis which affects the majority of European nations.

    Fully aware of the fact that a direct EU tax will cause a huge backlash and potentially mass civil disobedience amongst those forced to pay it, EU bureaucrats….have advised officials to avoid using the word “tax” because it would be “politically explosive”, an RTE report notes.

    “Of course in previous times there was a very successful independence movement that campaigned on the slogan of no taxation without representation.” Farage continued during his speech. “And you certainly sir are not a representative – we have not voted for you and we cannot remove you.” he charged.

    A clearly infuriated Barroso then only made Farage’s case stronger by reminding him that he was not elected by the people, but rather chosen to head the EC in a “secret” parliament vote.

    “I usually do not intervene, but there is a point of order that I want to make. It is not the first time that Mr Farage, addressing to myself says ‘you have not been elected’. certainly I have not been elected by you, but I have been elected by this parliament. I have been elected in a secret vote by this parliament, and you belong to this parliament.” Barroso said, attempting to validate his position, but only verifying Farage’s initial charge in the eyes of onlookers.

    It seems that Barroso genuinely believes that being selected in secret by an elite few to head up a parliament constitutes being elected by the people of the countries he now wants to see directly taxed by the EU.

    “I consider it, always saying that myself or the Commission have not been elected is a lack of respect to the Commission and to the parliament to which you belong.” Barroso snapped at Farage as if he was addressing a naughty school boy.

    This shows a incredible level of arrogance in the face of the basic facts that the Lisbon Treaty was never put to a referendum in almost all EU countries and that those now using it to act in the manner of a federal state were not elected to their positions and cannot be held accountable by European citizens.

    Farage further noted ” I do see a ray of hope”, referring to a proposal to revise the Lisbon Treaty, which could pave the way for a public referendum. “The Deauville deal, between Merkel and Sarkozy, the thing that you’re all so terrified of today, I hope it happens. Lets have a new Treaty, and lets put it to a referendum.” Farage urged.

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    Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/eu-leade...in-secret.html

    (... and don't forget to watch the video!)

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    They plutocrats over there are all old commies, maoists, stalinists, leninists, marxists.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmTOo6avlZ0

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    Just reading this Farage is making good points. And it is good to see that it Barrosa had openly admitted that his election is no way democratic. It might be indirect. But that ensures there is no way that the voters can know how the people they voted on, voted in for these positions. And therefore they can not really decide whether or not there Euro-MP have made bad use of the mandate they have been given on this area.
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    Here's his latest performance ...


    This is a transcript of the speech, taken from the "Prison Planet" website;

    “Good morning Mr. van Rompuy, you’ve been in office for one year, and in that time the whole edifice is beginning to crumble, there’s chaos, the money’s running out, I should thank you – you should perhaps be the pinup boy of the euroskeptic movement. But just look around this chamber this morning, look at these faces, look at the fear, look at the anger. Poor Barroso here looks like he’s seen a ghost. They’re beginning to understand that the game is up. And yet in their desperation to preserve their dream, they want to remove any remaining traces of democracy from the system. And it’s pretty clear that none of you have learned anything. When you yourself Mr. van Rompuy say that the euro has brought us stability, I supposed I could applaud you for having a sense of humor, but isn’t this really just the bunker [or banker?] mentality. Your fanaticism is out in the open. You talk about the fact that it was a lie to believe that the nation state could exist in the 21st century globalized world. Well, that may be true in the case of Belgium who haven’t had a government for 6 months, but for the rest of us, right across every member state in this union, increasingly people are saying, “We don’t want that flag, we don’t want the anthem, we don’t want this political class, we want the whole thing consigned to the dustbin of history.” We had the Greek tragedy earlier on this year, and now we have the situation in Ireland. I know that the stupidity and greed of Irish politicians has a lot to do with this: they should never, ever have joined the euro. They suffered with low interest rates, a false boom and a massive bust. But look at your response to them: what they are being told as their government is collapsing is that it would be inappropriate for them to have a general election. In fact commissioner Rehn here said they had to agree to a budget first before they are allowed to have a general election. Just who the hell do you think you people are. You are very, very dangerous people indeed: your obsession with creating this European state means that you are happy to destroy democracy, you appear to be happy with millions and millions of people to be unemployed and to be poor. Untold millions will suffer so that your euro dream can continue. Well it won’t work, cause its Portugal next with their debt levels of 325% of GDP they are the next ones on the list, and after that I suspect it will be Spain, and the bailout for Spain will be 7 times the size of Ireland, and at that moment all the bailout money will is gone – there won’t be any more. But it’s even more serious than economics, because if you rob people of their identity, if you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence. I can only hope and pray that the euro project is destroyed by the markets before that really happens.”


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    hahahaha good one Nigel

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    Sorry to rain on the party but there's absolutely nothing to cheer about, Nigel Farage is just a gobberish tosser like David Cameron. All he and his retarded fake-Nationalist party does is insult the EU's officials (when they do bother to show up; UKIP MEP's have some the worst attendance records) - not exactly an intelligent and productive way to counter the EU parliament or spend taxpayers money.

    UKIP's idiocy
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/...00/9224135.stm

    If you want a real Euro-Skeptic then the only real choice in Britain are Andrew Brons and BNP.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxaaS-dCKss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cojoUmSgOS0

    This man has balls AND eloquence unlike Nigel the foul-mouth. I'm sorry to go a bit of a tangent here but I really get sick of people in this movement who entertain the idea that UKIP are somehow our ideological allies.

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    You may be right. Either way, Nigel makes for good theatre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    You may be right. Either way, Nigel makes for good theatre.
    Maybe, but they are also a major political hurdle that only sucks up BNP votes. I personally hate Farage almost as much as Cameron (personality wise).

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    This man has balls AND eloquence unlike Nigel the foul-mouth. I'm sorry to go a bit of a tangent here but I really get sick of people in this movement who entertain the idea that UKIP are somehow our ideological allies.
    And who are you to decide who our allies are? BNP is certainly not on my "friend" list, I would pick UKIP over BNP any day.

    BNP is just another Skin movement, the kind of people who belong on a trailer park and not in our cities.
    If christ is the answer then what is the question?

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    Nigel Farage may not be the best answer to EU dominance, but he is certainly no David Cameron, who promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty and now goes back to throwing away what little independence we have left and licking EU boot.

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