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    Females Are Equal to Males in Math Skills, Large Study Shows

    ScienceDaily (Oct. 13, 2010) — The mathematical skills of boys and girls, as well as men and women, are substantially equal, according to a new examination of existing studies in the current online edition of journal Psychological Bulletin.

    One portion of the new study looked systematically at 242 articles that assessed the math skills of 1,286,350 people, says chief author Janet Hyde, a professor of psychology and women's studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

    These studies, all published in English between 1990 and 2007, looked at people from grade school to college and beyond. A second portion of the new study examined the results of several large, long-term scientific studies, including the National Assessment of Educational Progress.

    In both cases, Hyde says, the difference between the two sexes was so close as to be meaningless.

    Sara Lindberg, now a postdoctoral fellow in women's health at the UW-Madison School of Medicine and Public Health, was the primary author of the meta-analysis in Psychological Bulletin.

    The idea that both genders have equal math abilities is widely accepted among social scientists, Hyde adds, but word has been slow to reach teachers and parents, who can play a negative role by guiding girls away from math-heavy sciences and engineering. "One reason I am still spending time on this is because parents and teachers continue to hold stereotypes that boys are better in math, and that can have a tremendous impact on individual girls who are told to stay away from engineering or the physical sciences because 'Girls can't do the math.'"

    Scientists now know that stereotypes affect performance, Hyde adds. "There is lots of evidence that what we call 'stereotype threat' can hold women back in math. If, before a test, you imply that the women should expect to do a little worse than the men, that hurts performance. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    "Parents and teachers give little implicit messages about how good they expect kids to be at different subjects," Hyde adds, "and that powerfully affects their self-concept of their ability. When you are deciding about a major in physics, this can become a huge factor."

    Hyde hopes the new results will slow the trend toward single-sex schools, which are sometimes justified on the basis of differential math skills. It may also affect standardized tests, which gained clout with the passage of No Child Left Behind, and tend to emphasize lower-level math skills such as multiplication, Hyde says. "High-stakes testing really needs to include higher-level problem-solving, which tends to be more important in jobs that require math skills. But because many teachers teach to the test, they will not teach higher reasoning unless the tests start to include it."

    The new findings reinforce a recent study that ranked gender dead last among nine factors, including parental education, family income, and school effectiveness, in influencing the math performance of 10-year-olds.

    Hyde acknowledges that women have made significant advances in technical fields. Half of medical school students are female, as are 48 percent of undergraduate math majors. "If women can't do math, how are they getting these majors?" she asks.

    Because progress in physics and engineering is much slower, "we have lots of work to do," Hyde says. "This persistent stereotyping disadvantages girls. My message to parents is that they should have confidence in their daughter's math performance. They need to realize that women can do math just as well as men. These changes will encourage women to pursue occupations that require lots of math."
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1011223927.htm

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    Naturally, since there's no creativity involved and is pure deductive reasoning. Mathematics and most sciences are of the Feminine (in the Weiningerian sense) so it would make sense. They are good at learning *what they have been taught* but not so good in the creation aspect of any of the Arts; see for example our modern culture, little are the works of Genius but great are the works of the material aka sciene and modern art etc. It's simply seeing a problem and then working with a *taught* formula to fix it. That may come off as rude and derogatory but is in no way intended as such.

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    Women are great imitators and copyists but where are all the great female philosophers in comparison to the majority of philosophy represented by men?

    How many great female scientists are there in comparison to a great number of scientists represented by men?

    With that been said I do applaude women's ability to do mathmatics and advance themselves in careerism.

    [ I wonder how many women remain childless as they focus all their energies on careers in their dreams or goal oriented motivations of living the good life as they ignore family life at home waiting til their late twenties and early thirties before paying any attention to it at all where for some they wait too long where it's too late in the game on their part to even have a family at all.]

    [ I better not say that to which that would be the impolitically correct statement to say on my part. Oops.....too late now......]
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    Kind of off-topic:

    Type in 'female inventors' and you get such titles as:

    'Multicultural Resource Center: Female Inventors'
    'Female african american inventors'
    'GWIIN: Championing Women Inventors in Mexico and Beyond'


    Type in ‘male inventors’ and the very first man they mention is:

    'Dr. Charles Drew - Black Inventor Online Museum'

    Notice how they mention black male inventors and White female inventors on the very first page? You think they are trying to make a connection here? Anytime a young White girl makes a similar search she will see these results and think on a subconscious level "I have something in common with black males". This is a kind of psychological race-mixing...identifying with them first.
    This is what feminism has always done, often mentioning "oppressed" blacks and "oppressed" females in the same paragraph to enforce mutual feelings among them.

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    Hmm, I have some thoughts on this. I don't like to get sucked into 'my gender is better than yours' type arguments, as I find it quite immature and damaging to our people. However, what above members have said is true: Women are certainly less critical of what they're taught. Most girls study hard, always hand their homework in on time, and dream about one day pursuing a career so they can dedicate their lives to serving the shallow, materialistic, soul-less system that provides them with the means to buy vacuous material replacements for the family they'll never have.

    I don't think any of this is inherent, though. I think feminism, as a pure product of the capitalist system, has been devilish intelligent in latching the female ego to the notion of unquestioningly and enthusiastically embracing and supporting the capitalist system. Women more than men now feel like genuine failures for not serving the system and filling their lives with 'meaning', as defined by capitalism -- and they'll passionate defend the lifestyle and system on which fulfilment of their conditioned needs now depends.

    This reason is essentially why we see girls out-performing boys in education. I just don't know many guys who cared about school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    Women are great imitators and copyists but where are all the great female philosophers in comparison to the majority of philosophy represented by men?
    Like Asian men!

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    What has happened since the 1970s is that educators have concentrated on helping female students succeed at the expense of male students. Male & females learn differently & teachers - mostly women (and arch marxist-feminists) ignore this. Is any coincidence that male students are much more likely to be drugged then female students. On the grounds that they are more likely to be unruly.

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    What is the purpose of these kinds of threads? To start arguments? To create conflict between men and women? I don't see the point.

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    If one looks into what subjects women engage in universities it is different then the male choices.

    Males usually are more into technical/ mathematical subjects, women go generally more for communication/education related subjects.

    The choices most likely represent focus and affinity to certain subjects.

    Inventions are most likely done in technical areas which is traditionally low in female participation.

    On the other hand most men also excell on traditionell female subjects like cooking etc. being inventive there.

    I guess female brains are more wired to comprehend and use, a male brain might be more wired to comprehend and change.

    I have no doubt that women can understand math like men but to bring it to new levels is something different. To explore and take the risk of being wrong is a more male attitude but that is not so much mentally as ..... I don't know what, but there is a difference.

    I think women prefer order and safety which is more conservative, men prefer risk and a healthy chaos to get new things. After all if you have gotten something new your status enhances dramatically, you are on the frontline and the alpha male. Females seem to be preferential to be liked by maintaining what is. They may facilitate grows like in children and use intelligence there, but their way to mature is more bound to society and not being disruptive, balanced in every way with everybody else.

    I don't think the difference is in intellect but lies more in different gender strategies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Kind of off-topic:

    Type in 'female inventors' and you get such titles as:

    'Multicultural Resource Center: Female Inventors'
    'Female african american inventors'
    'GWIIN: Championing Women Inventors in Mexico and Beyond'


    Type in ‘male inventors’ and the very first man they mention is:

    'Dr. Charles Drew - Black Inventor Online Museum'

    Notice how they mention black male inventors and White female inventors on the very first page? You think they are trying to make a connection here? Anytime a young White girl makes a similar search she will see these results and think on a subconscious level "I have something in common with black males". This is a kind of psychological race-mixing...identifying with them first.
    This is what feminism has always done, often mentioning "oppressed" blacks and "oppressed" females in the same paragraph to enforce mutual feelings among them.
    It's quite simple really why that happens..................

    Women even Germanic or europid women are seen as being historically oppressed by the Germanic and europid male patriarchy as other groups like more formerly foreign ethnicities under the colonial period in the world by past western expansion.

    Therefore women as a general rule are allocated the same protections as so called racial or ethnic minorities as a way of harboring protection for them and other groups from the malicious deeply hated oppressive white male.

    Where are there any protections or special prescribed rights for white males?

    There aren't any for we supposedly have all this male white privilege thing going on...........

    Infact out of all the races and ethnicities along with sex white men are the only group of people that have no special protections whatsoever.

    Aemeric

    What has happened since the 1970s is that educators have concentrated on helping female students succeed at the expense of male students. Male & females learn differently & teachers - mostly women (and arch marxist-feminists) ignore this. Is any coincidence that male students are much more likely to be drugged then female students. On the grounds that they are more likely to be unruly.
    This is precisely why in the United States more women are seen graduating from college than men where men are suddenly straying behind now more than ever before in education.

    There is statistics to illustrate this statement too.
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