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    Classify 2500 Year Old "Myrtis" from Athens

    Found an article in the newspaper today about a greek girl being reconstructed by a team of archeologist/professors and wondered about the subrace of this individual called "Myrtis". Allegeable only 11 years old and from Athens she was dug up from a massgrave made some 2500 years ago. Anyway, here are the images:





    NB: There are no possiblies of images from different angles. Im sure you understand why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walhalla-Wacht View Post
    I'm not all to educated in human taxonomy, but she certainly does not look like a stereotypical modern Greek.


    Perhaps one of the Indo-Aryan Celts who settled in Greece before Turkic and other middle-eastern influence?
    That would be my guess.
    Not really Celts so much as Myceneans...still said to look like Myrtis and to have Indo-Aryan origins.
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    The reconstruction proves what we all know, the Greeks were different in those times to modern day Greeks.

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=13854

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropkick View Post
    The reconstruction proves what we all know, the Greeks were different in those times to modern day Greeks.

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=13854
    That girl looks like a mixture of Mediterranid and Alpine to me. Not that uncommon in Greece?

    Regarding the link:
    Maybe ancient Greeks were far more "Nordid" than today, but I seriously doubt they were some kind of mystic Nordic folk which simply disappeared. Same goes for the Romans. I don't get why any mentioning of blonde hair or blue eyes automatically means they were a wholly Nordic people to some guys. Not regarding the fact that someone's view of blonde hair doesn't equal anotherone's view of it.
    Remind you as well, normally the rather extraordinary gets mentioned like for example in German surnames "Braun"/"Schwarz"(Brown/Black, regarding hair/eye color).

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    I wouldn't necessarily trust those reconstructions. The latest Bach reconstruction looked nothing like the portraits we have of him. Plus, they gave him dark skin and dark eyes, which already shows where those things are headed.

    Much better it would be to simply look at the skull, which we can't do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxnot View Post
    Plus, they gave him dark skin and dark eyes, which already shows where those things are headed.
    What do you mean with that?

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    Why not take the opion of a Greek himself? To put it rather simply, if you could visit a classroom in Greece you would be able to see that 1/3 of the classroom at least can have very similar traits to her if not nearly identical. She looks exactly the same as a past classmate of mine, and a younger version of a teacher when I was back in school, she even shares the same racial types with these two persons. Sincerely I haven't seen that look anywhere else. Similar looks, like Italian variants could look like that but never the hellenic feeling is that obvious. I know instantly, that is not a fake for instance. Foreign admixture in greek population is rather true up to a point but very very far fetched. There can be individuals that you instantly get the feeling of a hellenic person and others that you are more sure than ever that this is a remnant of a past population and that there's nearly nothing greek to it, these people mostly came with the population exchanges and they were christianized or hellenized foreigners. But the greek population seems to be intanct, shares no common traits with eastern people and such. The girl is simply, 75% mediterranean (Ionian Greek), 25% alpine mix. Untypical of the greek population??? That's what nearly the whole population is even today! Other remarks prove no point, mathematically a migratory or ruling population can't replace the whole genetic pool with theirs for Zeus' sake. Even a 50% 50% person that is mixed back then, would find another person that is 100% pure greek and result to a kid that is 75% greek. Only if in an area the native population declines, that can happen. Go by that for many generations on and you see that your "celtic looks" excuse, proves no dissimilarities between past and present greeks, on the contrary it points to the alpinid admixture that give a central/norther european feeling and lighter colors on eyes and hair.

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