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    Ursula Haverbeck: The Iron Maiden

    Eldery german woman fined for holocaust denial

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    An 81-year-old German woman was convicted of Holocaust denial and fined. The woman, identified as Ursula H. [Ursula Haverbeck] on Wednesday was given a suspended sentence of six months and fined nearly $1,400 by a Munich judge. Ursula, the former president of a banned right-wing extremist group, admitted to distributing a text among schoolchildren that she had written in which she denied the Holocaust. Her 91-year-old co-defendant had allowed his name to be used on the pamphlet and was fined more than $800, the German news agency DPA reported.
    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010...locaust-denial

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    Ursula Haverbeck: The Hooton Plan And The Migrant Crisis

    [02-10, 17:07] Chlodovech: cats may have a reason for meowing too

    [02-10, 17:08] renownedwolf: same reason as the missus then.. give me stuff/affection..though she doesnt need me to let her out in the garden for a poo..

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    'Nazi Grandma' Holocaust Denier Ursula Haverbeck Sentenced to Jail

    An 87-year-old woman has been sentenced to prison after she claimed that Jews were never exterminated in Auschwitz. Her criminal record includes two fines and another sentence for sedition.

    A court in Detmold on Friday sentenced Ursula Haverbeck to eight months in jail on charges of sedition. The presiding judge ruled out the possibility of parole and said that Haverbeck had a lack of "any kind of respect" and that she had made more offensive comments in the courtroom.

    Haverbeck is expected to appeal against the sentencing. In Germany, anyone who publicly denies, endorses or plays down the extermination of Jews during Adolf Hitler's regime can be sentenced to a maximum of five years in jail.

    Haverbeck was found guilty of writing a letter to Detmold's mayor, Rainer Heller, saying it was "clearly recognizable" that Auschwitz was nothing more than a labor camp. She wrote her message at the time when the Detmold court was trying Reinhold Hanning, a former guard who served at the Auschwitz concentration camp.
    http://www.dw.com/en/nazi-grandma-ho...ail/a-19522941

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    Here is another 'Nazi grandma'...

    Prost, Heil Hitler / Grandma Drinking to Hitler

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    German 'Holocaust Denier' Haverbeck Again Sentenced to Prison

    A well-known German neo-Nazi has been convicted again of Holocaust denial and sentenced to prison, but is showing no signs of changing her views. Ursula Haverbeck in her closing statement in Verden district court Monday talked of the "Auschwitz lie" and said the infamous death camp was actually a labor camp where nobody was killed by gas, the dpa news agency reported. She'd been charged with Holocaust denial, a crime in Germany, for the content of several articles she wrote for a magazine called the Voice of the Reich. Haverbeck, 88, said she'd appeal her conviction and two-and-a-half year sentence. She's currently free as she appeals other convictions from courts in Detmold and Lueneburg.
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...enial-43695130

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    A well-known German neo-Nazi has been convicted again of Holocaust denial and sentenced to prison, but is showing no signs of changing her views. Ursula Haverbeck in her closing statement in Verden district court Monday talked of the "Auschwitz lie" and said the infamous death camp was actually a labor camp where nobody was killed by gas,
    There they admit that it is actually about the ladies views AND NOT about "incitement of racial hatred".

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    German court rejects 'Nazi grandma' appeal, as it rules Holocaust denial is not covered by free speech

    German holocaust denier Ursula Haverbeck has been sentenced to two and a half years in prison after the country's highest court ruled that denying the mass murder of Jews during Nazi Germany is not covered by the right to free speech and "threatens public peace".

    Haverbeck, who is known as the 'Nazi-Grandma', was convicted last May for publishing a series of articles in which she insisted that the Holocaust and murder of Jews at Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland are not "historically proven".

    In Germany, denying the Holocaust constitutes a crime of incitement to hatred and carries a prison sentence of up to five years.

    The 89-year old went to Germany's constitutional court to appeal her sentence, claiming that her statements fall under the country's right to free speech, which is protected by law.

    But in their ruling, the high court judges found that the right to free speech does not protect the denial of the Holocaust.

    "The dissemination of untrue and deliberately false statements of fact can not contribute to the development of public opinion and thus do not fall in the remits of protection for free speech", the judges wrote in a statement.

    "The denial of the Nazi genocide goes beyond the limits of the peacefulness of public debate and threatens public peace," they added.'


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    Pretty run of the mill situation in this world as it is run by the "chosen". I am terribly saddened by the fact for certain, I am in no way being complacent. It makes me very sick we have come to this. Why have free speech when you can decide a particular discussion is not 'covered'?

    They're running out of our folk to put behind bars, so they're still after the elderly. Then it's the relatives of those who have passed. When and how the hell is it going to stop?

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    I cannot think of a single historical or scientific phenomenon that cannot be questioned in the modern West, other than the 'Holocaust'.

    You can say the Earth is flat ... that no one ever landed on the moon ... that Japan won the second World War ... or that you can fly out the window if you flap your arms really fast ... and you will simply be thought of as ignorant and laughed off. But dare question if the modern estimates of Jewish causalities between 1941 and 1945, and the manner in which they died ... and off to the old cell you go! It's quite remarkable, and lacks comparable judicial practices since the end of the Medieval witch trials.
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    This is not a "free speech" issue, this goes much deeper, the paragraph for "incitement" effectively denies scientific research of the subject. (((They))) made it law that the "holohoax of sixmillionjews is obvious", and questioning or just researching it (see Germar Rudolf, who had to flee Germany) comes with up to 5 years.

    Every historian should be up in arms about such a law, but of course, those who dare to voice their concerns are fired from their jobs.
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