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    Winston Churchill Blamed for 1m Deaths in India Famine

    Sir Winston Churchill may be one of Britain's greatest wartime leaders, but in India he has been blamed for allowing more than a million people to die of starvation.

    According to a new book on the famine, Sir Winston ignored pleas for emergency food aid for millions in Bengal left to starve as their rice paddies were turned over to jute for sandbag production and supplies of rice from Burma stopped after Japanese occupation.

    Between one and three million died of hunger in 1943.

    The wartime leader said Britain could not spare the ships to transport emergency supplies as the streets of Calcutta filled with emaciated villagers from the surrounding countryside, but author Madhusree Mukerjee has unearthed new documents which challenge his claim.

    In her book, Churchill's Secret War, she cites ministry records and personal papers which reveal ships carrying cereals from Australia were bypassed India on their way to the Mediterranean where supplies were already abundant.

    "It wasn't a question of Churchill being inept: sending relief to Bengal was raised repeatedly and he and his close associates thwarted every effort," the author said.

    "The United States and Australia offered to send help but couldn't because the war cabinet was not willing to release ships. And when the US offered to send grain on its own ships, that offer was not followed up by the British," she added.

    The man-made famine and the contrast between the plight of starving Indians and well-fed British officers dining in the city's many colonial clubs has been described as one of the darkest chapters in British rule on the Indian subcontinent.

    Miss Mukerjee blames Churchill's 'racism' for his refusal to intervene.

    He derided Gandhi as a "half-naked holy man" and once said: "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion."

    He was known to favour Islam over Hinduism.

    "Winston's racist hatred was due to his loving the empire in the way a jealous husband loves his trophy wife: he would rather destroy it than let it go," said Miss Mukerjee.

    Source http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ia-famine.html

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    The cult of Churchill really is astounding when you take into consideration just how many disasters the man was responsible for. "The Greatest Briton of All Time" and all that garbage, it makes me sick. Has anyone read this book? I'm planning on borrowing it, it's good to see the myths about the man chipped away piece by piece.

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    This article doesn't sound pro-nationalist to me, but rather another attempt at "the Western world is evil". I understand that the Allies were also guilty of many war crimes during WW2. However, this article doesn't criticize the British Empire from a nationalistic or pro-European point of view (which we often do on this forum), but rather from a Cultural Marxist one.

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    Sir Winston Churchill may be one of Britain's greatest wartime leaders, but in India he has been blamed for allowing more than a million people to die of starvation.
    Churchill was leading his nation through a world war, so obviously he had to put Britain's people first. Britain had much higher priorities than feeding these millions of Indians and Bengalis during wartime. Sure, maybe Churchill was a bit too harsh on the colonized people in South Asia, but I don't disagree with him in theory.

    (I'm not defending Winston Churchill as a person, but just saying that I do not take the side of the Indians against the Britons, nor do I consider it a "racist genocide" to prioritize your own nation above a mass of non-whites).

    He derided Gandhi as a "half-naked holy man" and once said: "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion."
    I agree with the "beastly people" part, although not the religion part.

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    You have to judge a man by the standards he sets for others, and by those standards Churchill failed dismally. He blathers on in his speeches about democracy, the rights of nations to independent existence, human rights, the evils of racial persecution, the stature of man and so on and so on. However, when it came down to it he thought nothing of letting millions of Indians starve to death (among many other problematic actions). I can't abide hypocrites and Churchill was one of the biggest the world has ever seen.

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    Oh dear, Winnie The Warmonger has cocked it up again

    Whilst busy cutting a (one-sided) deal to hand over the British Empire to the Americans after WW2 he was casually letting a few million Indians starve ... just to leave them something nice to remember us by! This then served as a prelude - as things turned out - to the mass starvation of well over 1,000,000 Germans in Allied custody from 1945 onwards.

    Still, I don't expect such things will be taught in our schools for some time yet because they are really quite trivial events when compared to something as dreadful as The Holocaust™

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    Queen Victoria

    Previously undiscovered diaries have been found by an author based in the UK which show the intense relationship between Queen Victoria and the Indian man employed to be her teacher.

    The diaries have been used by London-based author Shrabani Basu to update her book Victoria and Abdul - which tells the story of the queen's close relationship with a tall and handsome Indian Muslim called Abdul Karim.

    The diaries add weight to suggestions that the queen was arguably far closer to Mr Karim than she was to John Brown - the Scottish servant who befriended her after the death of her beloved husband Prince Albert in 1861.

    They show that when the young Muslim was contemplating throwing in his job, soon after his employment started, because it was too "menial", the queen successfully begged him not to go.

    'Closest friend'

    Mr Karim was just 24 when he arrived in England from Agra to wait at table during Queen Victoria's golden jubilee in 1887 - four years after Mr Brown's death. He was given to her as a "gift from India".

    Within a year, the young Muslim was established as a powerful figure in court, becoming the queen's teacher - or munshi - and instructing her in Urdu and Indian affairs.

    Mr Karim was to have a profound influence on Queen Victoria's life - like Mr Brown becoming one of her closest confidants - but unlike him, was promoted well beyond servant status.

    "In letters to him over the years between his arrival in the UK and her death in 1901, the queen signed letters to him as 'your loving mother' and 'your closest friend'," author Shrabani Basu told the BBC.

    "On some occasions, she even signed off her letters with a flurry of kisses - a highly unusual thing to do at that time.

    "It was unquestionably a passionate relationship - a relationship which I think operated on many different layers in addition to the mother-and-son ties between a young Indian man and a woman who at the time was over 60 years old."

    Principal mourners

    Ms Basu hints that it is unlikely that the pair were ever lovers - although they did set tongues wagging by spending a quiet night alone in the same highland cottage where earlier she and John Brown used to stay.

    "When Prince Albert died, Victoria famously said that he was her husband, close friend, father and mother," Ms Basu said. "I think it's likely that Abdul Karim fulfilled a similar role."

    Mr Karim's influence over the queen became so great that she stipulated that he should be accorded the honour of being among the principal mourners at her funeral in Windsor Castle.

    "The elderly queen specifically gave this instruction, even though she knew it would provoke intense opposition from her family and household," Ms Basu said.

    "If the royal household hated Brown, it absolutely abhorred Abdul Karim."

    During his service with the queen, Mr Karim was bestowed with many honours as the royal party travelled around Europe meeting monarchs and prime ministers.

    He taught her how to write in Urdu and Hindi, introduced her to curry - which became a daily item on the royal menu - and eventually became her highly decorated secretary.

    He and his wife were given residences on all of the main royal estates in the UK and land in India. He was allowed to carry a sword and wear his medals in court - and was permitted to bring family members from India to England.

    "Mr Karim's father even got away with being the first person to smoke a hookah [water-pipe] in Windsor Castle, despite the queen's aversion to smoking," Ms Basu said.

    "The queen's munshi was named in court circulars, given the best positions at operas and banquets, allowed to play billiards in all the royal palaces and had a private horse carriage and footman."

    Unceremoniously sacked

    That Mr Karim inspired the empress of India could be seen not just by her newfound love of curry. Her eagerness to learn Urdu and Hindi because of his teaching was so strong that she even learned to write in both languages - and gave him a signed photo written in Urdu.

    She also used his briefings on political developments in India at the turn of the 19th Century to berate successive viceroys, her representatives in India - much to their displeasure - on measures they could have taken to reduce communal tensions.

    "At a time when the British empire was at its height, a young Muslim occupied a central position of influence over its sovereign," Ms Basu said.

    "It was a relationship that sent shockwaves through the royal court and was arguably a relationship far more scandalous than her much reported friendship with Mr Brown."

    Such was the level of ill-feeling he generated that barely a few hours after the queen's funeral, her son Edward VII unceremoniously sacked Abdul Karim.

    In addition, he ordered that all records of their relationship - kept at Mr Karim's homes in India and the UK - should be destroyed.

    But remarkable detective work by Ms Basu in India and Pakistan unearthed Mr Karim's diaries - kept by surviving family members since his death in 1909 - which detail his 10 years in London between Queen Victoria's golden and diamond jubilees.

    The diaries and other correspondence were taken back to India by Mr Karim and his nephew, Abdul Rashid, after their dismissal and were in turn sneaked out of India to Pakistan 40 years later when his family migrated during the violence at the time of partition
    A surviving family member in India read about Ms Basu's book in a local newspaper and told her that the diaries were being kept by another branch of the family in Karachi, which she duly tracked down.

    "I was fortunate enough to have unearthed a truly remarkable love story," Ms Basu reflected.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12670110

    Winston Churchill


    Those Racial beliefs were behind the uncompromising stand Churchill took on ''what was then called coloured immigration from the British Commonwealth'' in his last days as prime minister in the mid-1950s. Churchill was a restrictionist. His thinking parallelled that of Lord Salisbury, who had declared: " It is not for me merely a question of whether criminal negroes should be allowed in or not... it is a question whether great quantites of negroes, criminal or not, should be allowed to come".

    "Churchill's feelings were strongly in Salisbury's direction", writes historian Peter Hennessey. To the governor of Jamaica, Sir Hugh Foot, Churchill said in 1954 that were immigration from the Carribbean not halted, "we would have a magpie society: that would never do".

    Coloured immigration weighed heavily on his mind. Churchill told one interviewer, "I think it is the most important subject facing this country, but I cannot get any of my ministers to take notice". Writes Hennessey, "Just as Churchill was distressed by the break-up of the British Empire, he was, for all his imperial romance, deeply disturbed about its black or brown members coming to the mother country".

    Future prime minister Harold Macmillan, in his diary entry on the Cabinet meeting of January 20, 1955, wrote: "More discussion about the West Indian immigrants. A Bill is being drafted - but it's not an easy problem. P.M. [Churchill] thinks 'Keep England White' a good slogan!".

    Had Churchill endured in office, there might have been legislation, says Hennessey. London would look entirely different today. But by April, against his will, Churchill was out as prime minister, no longer able to lead a campaign to "Keep England White" - an astonishing slogan in a day when Dr. Martin Luther King, a disciple of Gandhi whom Churchill had detested, was starting out in Montgomery. In 1968, Enoch Powell, Tory shadow minister of defense, woudl take up the banned of Salibuty and Churchill and deliver his "Rivers of Blood" speech. By then, time had passed the restrictionists by, and England was on its way to becoming the multiracial, multicultural nation of today, no longer Churchill's England.
    ''Keep England White''
    from Pat Buchanan's The Unneccesary War:

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    Home Secretary Winston Churchill, an enthusiastic supporter of eugenics, reassured one group of eugenicists that Britain's 120,000 feeble-minded persons "should, if possible, be segregated under proper conditions so that their curse died with them and was not transmitted to future generations". The plan called for the creation of vast colonies. Thousands of Britain's unfit would be moved into these colonies to live out their days.
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    ~ Winston Churchill, 'A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People'

    on Islam:

    'How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
    ~ Winston Churchill, The River War, unabridged version

    on Race:

    ''The qualities of mongrels are rarely admirable, and the mixture of the Arab and negro types has produced a debased and cruel breed, more shocking because they are more intelligent than the primitive savages. The stronger race soon began to prey upon the simple aboriginals; some of the Arab tribes were camel-breeders; some were goat-herds; some were Baggaras or cow-herds. But all, without exception, were hunters of men. To the great slave-market at Jedda a continual stream of negro captives has flowed for hundreds of years. The invention of gunpowder and the adoption by the Arabs of firearms facilitated the traffic by placing the ignorant negroes at a further disadvantage. Thus the situation in the Soudan for several centuries may be summed up as follows: The dominant race of Arab invaders was unceasingly spreading its blood, religion, customs, and language among the black aboriginal population, and at the same time it harried and enslaved them..''
    ~ Winston Churchill, The River War

    A History of the English-Speaking Peoples (1956-58) A History of the English Speaking Peoples, in four volumes, much of which had been written in the 1930s. ISBN 0-88029-423-X

    Thus ended the great American Civil War, which upon the whole must be considered the noblest and least avoidable of all the great mass conflicts of which till then there was record.


    No one can understand history without continually relating the long periods which are constantly mentioned to the experiences of our own short lives. Five years is a lot. Twenty years is the horizon to most people. Fifty years is antiquity. To understand how the impact of destiny fell upon any generation of men one must first imagine their position and then apply the time-scale of our own lives.

    Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    At this point the march of invention brought a new factor upon the scene. Iron was dug and forged. Men armed with iron entered Britain from the Continent and killed the men of bronze. At this point we can plainly recognise across the vanished millenniums a fellow-being. A biped capable of slaying another with iron is evidently to modern eyes a man and a brother.

    On the end of the Bronze Age and start of the Iron Age, Vol I; The Birth of Britain

    We see the crude and corrupt beginnings of a higher civilisation blotted out by the ferocious uprising of the native tribes. Still, it is the primary right of men to die and kill for the land they live in, and to punish with exceptional severity all members of their own race who have warmed their hands at the invaders' hearth.

    On the sack of Verulamium (St. Albans) by Queen Boadicea


    Apparently, as in so many ancient battles, the beaten side were the victims of misunderstanding and the fate of the day was decided against them before the bulk of the forces realised that a serious engagement had begun. Reserves descended from the hills too late to achieve victory, but in good time to be massacred in the rout.

    On the Battle of Mons Graupius, which ended British resistance to Roman rule, Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    Like other systems in decay, the Roman Empire continued to function for several generations after its vitality was sapped. For nearly a hundred years our Island was one of the scenes of conflict between a dying civilisation and lusty, famishing barbarism.

    On the last years of Roman Britain; Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    And wherever men are fighting against barbarism, tyranny, and massacre, for freedom, law, and honour, let them remember that the fame of their deeds, even though they themselves be exterminated, may perhaps be celebrated as long as the world rolls round. Let us then declare that King Arthur and his noble knights, guarding the Sacred Flame of Christianity and the theme of a world order, sustained by valour, physical strength, and good horses and armour, slaughtered innumerable hosts of foul barbarians and set decent folk an example for all time.

    On King Arthur Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    The picture rises before us vivid and bright: the finely carved, dragon-shaped prow; the high, curving stern; the long row of shields, black and yellow alternately, ranged along the sides; the gleam of steel; the scent of murder.

    On the Viking Long Ships, Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    When we reflect upon the brutal vices of these salt-water bandits, pirates as shameful as any whom the sea has borne, or recoil from their villainous destruction and cruel deeds, we must also remember the discipline, the fortitude, the comradeship and martial virtues which made them at this period beyond all challenge the most formidable and daring race in the world.

    On The Vikings, Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    When the next year the raiders returned and landed near Jarrow they were stoutly attacked while harassed by bad weather. Many were killed. Their "king" was captured and put to a cruel death, and the fugitives carried so grim a tale back to Denmark that for forty years the English coasts were unravaged.

    On a Viking Raid in 794 A.D.; Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    "872, Ivar, King of the Northmen of all Ireland and Britain, ended his life." He had conquered Mercia and East Anglia. He had captured the major stronghold of the kingdom of Strathclyde, Dumbarton. Laden with loot and seemingly invincible, he settled in Dublin and died there peacefully two years later. The pious chroniclers report that he "slept in Christ." Thus it may be that he had the best of both worlds.

    On Ivar, a Viking King (c. 872) Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    A group of pagan ruffians and pirates had gained possession of an effective military and naval machine, but they faced a mass of formidable veterans whom they had to feed and manage, and for whom they must provide killings. Such men make plans, and certainly their descent upon England was one of the most carefully considered and elaborately prepared villainies of that dark time.

    On the Danish invasion of England in 892; Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    Without any coherent national organisation to repel from the land on which they had settled the ever-unknowable descents from the seas, the Saxons, now for four centuries entitled to be deemed the owners of the soil, very nearly succumbed completely to the Danish inroads. That they did not was due--as almost every critical turn of historic fortune has been due--to the sudden apparition in an era of confusion and decay of one of the great figures of history.

    On King Alfred the Great; Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    It was Twelfth Night, and the Saxons, who in these days of torment refreshed and fortified themselves by celebrating the feasts of the Church, were off their guard, engaged in pious exercises, or perhaps even drunk. Down swept the ravaging foe. The whole army of Wessex, sole guarantee of England south of the Thames, was dashed into confusion. Many were killed.

    On King Alfred's defeat by the Danes in January, w:878, Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    Civilisation had been restored to the Island. But now the political fabric which nurtured it was about to be overthrown. Hitherto strong men armed had kept the house. Now a child, a weakling, a vacillator, a faithless, feckless creature, succeeded to the warriour throne.

    On Ethelred the Unready Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    We have seen that Alfred in his day had never hesitated to use money as well as arms. Ethelred used money instead of arms. He used it in ever-increasing quantities, with ever-diminishing returns ... There is the record of a final payment to the Vikings in 1012. This time forty-eight thousand pounds' weight of silver was extracted, and the oppressors enforce the collection by the sack of Canterbury, holding Archbishop Alphege to ransom, and finally killing him at Greenwich because he refused to coerce his flock to raise the money. The Chronicle states: "All these calamities fell upon us through evil counsel, because tribute was not offered to them at the right time, nor yet were they resisted; but, when they had done the most evil, then was peace made with them. And notwithstanding all this peace and tribute they went everywhere in companies, harried our wretched people, and slew them"

    On Ethelred the Unready's policy; Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    It is vain to recount further the catalogue of miseries. In earlier ages such horrors remain unknown because unrecorded. Just enough flickering light plays upon this infernal scene to give us the sense of its utter desolation and hopeless wretchedness and cruelty.

    On a series of Viking raids Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    The lights of Saxon England were going out, and in the gathering darkness a gentle, grey-beard prophet foretold the end. When on his death-bed Edward spoke of a time of evil that was coming upon the land his inspired mutterings struck terror into the hearers.

    On the death of King Edward the Confessor in January, 1066, months before the Norman Invasion Vol I; The Birth of Britain


    On September 28 the fleet hove in sight, and all came safely to anchor in Pevensey Bay. There was no opposition to the landing. The local "fyrd" had been called out this year four times already to watch the coast, and having, in true English style, come to the conclusion that the danger was past because it had not yet arrived had gone back to their homes.

    On the landing of William the Conqueror at Pevensey Vol I; The Birth of Britain

    William now directed his archers to shoot high into the air, so that the arrows would fall behind the shield-wall, and one of these pierced Harold in the right-eye, inflicting a mortal wound. He fell at the foot of the royal standard, unconquerable except by death, which does not count in honour. The hard-fought battle was now decided.

    On the death of King Harold at the Battle of Hastings on October 14, 1066, Vol I; The Birth of Britain

    Joan was a being so uplifted from the ordinary run of mankind that she finds no equal in a thousand years. She embodied the natural goodness and valour of the human race in unexampled perfection. Unconquerable courage, infinite compassion, the virtue of the simple, the wisdom of the just, shone forth in her. She glorifies as she freed the soil from which she sprang.

    On Saint Joan of Arc ; Volume I: The Birth of Britain, p. 422



    After the General Election of 1951, Churchill again became Prime Minister. His third government—after the wartime national government and the brief caretaker government of 1945 — would last until his resignation in 1955. During this period, he renewed what he called the "special relationship" between Britain and the United States, and engaged himself in the formation of the post-war order. He tried in vain to manoeuvre the cabinet into restricting West Indian immigration. "Keep England White" was a good slogan, he told the cabinet in January 1955.[10] Ian Gilmour records Churchill saying to him, in 1955, about immigration: "I think it is the most important subject facing this country, but I cannot get any of my ministers to take any notice
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Later_l...ston_Churchill



    UK Now


    Police are searching for a man who sexually assaulted a woman while she was heading home on Christmas Eve, after a night out in Edinburgh.

    The woman was walking on the city's McDonald Road at 03:25 on Saturday when her attacker struck, police said.

    He approached her and attempted to strike up a conversation before he grabbed and assaulted her.

    The suspect was described as about 28 and 5ft 6in, dark skinned, possibly Indian, with short, wavy dark hair, thick black eyebrows, dark eyes and of slim build.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16329483

    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/british-...me-report.html


    White Guilt
    White Guilt (sometimes referred to as Self hate of whites or Guilt Grade A) is a common term to refer to the attitude of accusing white people of being murderers. It is a common form of anti-racism.
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    India's thriving economy has brought many advantages to the population
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    Why does Uk give aid to India
    The government is expected to freeze the level of assistance given to India at £295m ($480m) a year. But why does a nuclear power with its own space programme need British aid?

    In a widely-signalled move, it is anticipated that International Development Secretary Andrew Mitchell will announce the amount of aid given to India will be maintained at 2009/10 levels.

    But the decision has attracted criticism from newspapers and politicians who say the UK taxpayer does not need to donate to a state that is itself a foreign aid donor, which is classified by the World Bank as a middle income country (MIC) and whose economy is growing at nearly 10% a year.

    However, advocates of aid say a third of the planet's population who are below the World Bank's extreme poverty line live in India. They also argue half of all children in the country are malnourished and it does not have the tax base to eliminate poverty though internal wealth redistribution.

    Andy Sumner of the Institute of Development Studies says: "If UK aid was reduced, there is no guarantee that the funding to the poorest states where most of India's chronically poor live would be topped up by the Indian government."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    Oh dear, Winnie The Warmonger has cocked it up again

    Whilst busy cutting a (one-sided) deal to hand over the British Empire to the Americans after WW2 he was casually letting a few million Indians starve ... just to leave them something nice to remember us by! This then served as a prelude - as things turned out - to the mass starvation of well over 1,000,000 Germans in Allied custody from 1945 onwards.

    Still, I don't expect such things will be taught in our schools for some time yet because they are really quite trivial events when compared to something as dreadful as The Holocaust™
    Well, talking about the holocaust has by coincidence the effect that over things like this and many, many, many other things effectively there is no talk at all. And of course, if one is "bad" (e.g WSC) one needs at least 1 other who is even "worse" (for psychological projections) and who would be a a better a projection-target than "Hitler and the Nazis" ?

    Example: Israeli behavior towards the Palestinians. Here Israel allegedly behaves like the Nazis against the Warsaw Ghetto uprise of the Polish jews. And by coincidence 50% of today's Israeli citizen confess to Polish-jewish ancestry, dissident and supposed "jewish self-hater" Gilad Atzmon in London is one of them. I notice since long the irony of the IDF employing "Nazi-methods" when it comes to policing the Palestinians.

    "The twin roots of all our evils, Nazi tyranny and militarism, must be extirpated. Until this is achieved, there are no sacrifices we will not make and no lengths in violence to which we will not go." Winston Spencer Churchill, House of Commons, 21 September, 1943
    Starvation for the Bengali Indians, no lengths in violence to which WSC will not go against the Germans ("they must bleed and burn"), the "Injuns in Canada and the aboriginals in Australia needs to be exterminated" (according to WSC), Churchill authorized the gassing of Arab civilians, i could go on and on...

    Churchill, writes Andrew Roberts, ''found Indians 'the beastliest people in the world''.

    ...During the war, Churchill ranted against Indian demands for independance. ''I hate Indians'', he said. ''They are a beastly people with a beastly religion''. Beseeched by Amery and the Indian Viceroy to release food stocks in the wartime famine, ''Churchill responded with a telegram asking why Gandhi hadn't died yet''.
    “He wasn’t an alcoholic, someone said later — no alcoholic could drink that much.” The prime minister of Australia noted of Churchill: “In every conversation he ultimately reaches a point where he positively enjoys the war.” After the bombing of British cities Baker quotes him: “This ordeal by fire has, in a certain sense, even exhilarated the manhood and the womanhood of Britain."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/bo.../Toibin-t.html
    So, according to WSC the English get "exhilarated" when being bombed...

    "I am, of course, a Zionist, and have been ever since the Balfour Declaration." - Winston S.Churchill
    quoted in The Official Churchill in One Volume, N.Y. Times (Nov. 6, 1991) by Herbert Mitgang
    Winston "I am a Zionist" Churchill, the "Greatest Briton of All Times."

    No, it is NOT Elizabeth I., William Pitt or the Duke of Wellington, all of them gained a lot of power FOR England, it is the guy who played everything off (WSC) who is named the "Greatest Briton of All Times."

    This is what fascinates me most.

    The past-WSC England exists in a mirrored reality.

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    What is now Bangladesh (which takes in the greater part of what was the British Raj's Bengal) had a population of 42 million in 1940 & 42.1 million in 1950. It was up to 50 million by 1960 & is now somewhere between 150-170 million. apparently they can take a proper census to find out how many there are. There are nearly 4 million births annually in Bangladesh. West Bengal has a population of 90 million & 1.5 million births annually. The Bengalis have recovered, if not for the famine there would be another 13-15 million Bengalis on the brink of overpopulation disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticviking View Post

    After the General Election of 1951, Churchill again became Prime Minister. His third government—after the wartime national government and the brief caretaker government of 1945 — would last until his resignation in 1955. During this period, he renewed what he called the "special relationship" between Britain and the United States, and engaged himself in the formation of the post-war order. He tried in vain to manoeuvre the cabinet into restricting West Indian immigration. "Keep England White" was a good slogan, he told the cabinet in January 1955.[10] Ian Gilmour records Churchill saying to him, in 1955, about immigration: "I think it is the most important subject facing this country, but I cannot get any of my ministers to take any notice
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    Why do you post this pro-Churchill propaganda bomb ("he writes in his books blah...blah...blah" ) when in fact WSC acted all throughout his career ANTI-Germanic ?

    Examples see previous post and and as a specific to "he wanted to keep England white":

    Winston Churchill worked against and killed the Aliens Act (1905) supporting Jewish immigration from Russia/Poland; and in working for foreign interests, he denied the British people the right to live their lives free from foreign exploitation, foreign violence, foreign wars, crushing ethnocide, and the inevitable genocide of miscegenation and Major William Evans-Gordan predicted as much in 1906 when he gave us this warning...

    '‘War has been declared on you by the Liberal Government, the friends of every country but their own’ (East London Advertiser, 7 April 1906,).


    Or to quote his official biographer Sir Martin "Jude" Gilbert:
    The text below is taken from Martin Gilberts book 'Churchill And The Jews; a Lifelong Friendship'

    "Churchill’s first political involvement in Jewish concerns came in 1904, when he was twenty-seven. That year, while still a Conservative Member of Parliament for Oldham, he had begun to support Liberal Party causes. His constituency Conservative Party at Oldham told him they would no longer support him. Needing a new parliamentary constituency, and a Liberal one, he accepted the invitation to stand for Manchester North-West, where a third of the electorate was Jewish.

    The issue Churchill was called upon to take up at Manchester was a national one: the Conservative Government’s Aliens Bill, aimed at curbing the influx of Jewish immigrants from Tsarist Russia, fleeing persecution from poverty. One of Churchill’s principal supporters in the Manchester Liberal Party was Nathan Laski…who enlisted Churchill’s support, as a matter of urgency for the Jews, in seeking to prevent the passage of the Aliens Bill through parliament.

    In May 1904, Nathan Laski sent Churchill a dossier of papers relating to the Aliens Bill, which included official government immigration statistics. Churchill prepared a detailed criticism of the Bill, which he sent both to Laski and as an open letter to the newspapers…In his letter Churchill announced he would actively oppose the Bill. He was against… ‘departing from the old tolerant and generous practise of free entry and asylum to which this country has so long adhered and from which it has so greatly gained’. He went on to warn of the danger of the proposed legislation in the hand of an ‘intolerant or anti-Semitic’ Home Secretary. He was concerned, he said, with the effect of the Bill on ‘the simple immigrant, the political refugee, the helpless and the poor’ who under the Bill would not have the ‘smallest right of appeal to the broad justice of the English courts’

    Churchill had another objection, that an alien could be deported on the testimony “of the common informer – perhaps his private enemy or a trade rival.”

    “Pray accept my personal thanks for your splendid letter received this morning,” Nathan Laski wrote from Manchester. “You have won the gratitude of the whole Jewish Community not alone of Manchester but of the entire country.”

    On 31 May 1904, the day Churchill’s letter with its critique of anti-Semitism was published, he formally left the Conservative Party and joined the Liberal opposition.

    The Jews of Manchester had acquired a courageous champion.

    On 8 June 1904 Churchill made his first speech from the Liberal Opposition benches; opposing the government’s attempt to push the Aliens Bill through Parliament without a full debate. Despite his arguments, the Bill was sent – without scrutiny in the full House of Commons – to the far smaller Grand Committee, of which Churchill was one of the four Liberal members; a daily and active participant in the committee’s discussions. … The Sun newspaper alleged that Churchill’s opposition to the Bill was on the direct orders of Lord Rothschild. This was the first but not the last time Churchill was to be accused by his political opponents, and by anti-Semites, of being in the pocket, and even in the pay, of wealthy Jews. The accusation almost certainly arose from a small news item in the Jewish Chronicle, reporting a meeting in Manchester at which “Mr. Nathan Laski said he had interviewed Mr. Winston Churchill, who had seen Lord Rothschild with reference to the Bill. The result of the interview was that Mr. Churchill was practically leading the attack on the Bill in the Grand Committee.

    ”The Aliens Bill had eleven clauses, totalling 240 lines. Its opponents challenged each clause, however minor, with Churchill either proposing or seconding each of the many amendments. Major William Evans-Gordon…declared that Churchill “was faithfully carrying out the instructions he had received from the party for which he was acting,” and hastened to add, defensively, “did not say for anybody in particular.” This thinly veiled insinuation that he was acting on instructions from the Jews brought Churchill angrily to his feet. He then referred to the suggestion in The Sun newspaper that he was acting under instruction from Lord Rothschild, telling the committee that he “regretted that so foul a slander should be repeated here.”

    So determined were Churchill and his three fellow Liberal opponents of the Bill on the committee to challenge its every word that, by the seventh day of the committee’s liberations, only three lines of a single clause had been discussed. A further ten clauses and 233 lines remained to be examined. Anxious to avoid the continuation of such thorough scrutiny, the government abandoned the Bill.Churchill had supported the Jews, and prevailed.

    He had helped forestall legislation that would have posed a serious impediment to large numbers of Jews seeking to enter Britain: Jews who within a few decades were to make their contribution to Jewish life in Britain, and to the defence of Britain in both world wars, the second under Churchill’s leadership....End

    Martin Gilbert. ‘Churchill and the Jews: A Lifelong Friendship’


    The letter that Martin Gilbert details above was sent by Churchill to the leader of the powerful Jewish Community in Manchester, Nathan Laski on 30 May and published in The Times on 31May, later that day Churchill crossed the floor of the House and joined the Liberal Party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ampersand View Post
    The cult of Churchill really is astounding when you take into consideration just how many disasters the man was responsible for. "The Greatest Briton of All Time" and all that garbage, it makes me sick. Has anyone read this book? I'm planning on borrowing it, it's good to see the myths about the man chipped away piece by piece.
    First of all, you are Australian. You don't come to the English section with your larakin nonsense and try tell us what is what about our History, until you have sworn allegiance to the Queen like you are supposed to do according to your flag - which I highly doubt. Same goes for all other nationalists from other countries.

    2nd. Sigyn said it better, the article is just another attack on "the evil" Western World imo.

    And regardless of whether Church Hill was really a good nationalist, an Israel-supporting fool or something in between, he was still a leader of Britain in a time when those notions of racial and national categorising and equality were only just surfacing. That Nazis were researching about root "Aryans" (certain types of Caucasians) in India and China. That is how little people knew about race and culture back then.

    So I am confident from what I know of him that he probably did his best to be fair and square in that short period, which is more than can probably be said for the clowns on mainland Europe during the time; the Nazis, Stalin etc etc, quarreling over petty land and help getting us all into a heap of crap with WW2.

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