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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post

    I have to say I've always found it strange how National Socialist becomes "Nazi" because the second syllable (zi) doesn't really resemble the world Socialist in any way.


    That's because technically it is not short for National Socialist. It is short for Nationalsozialismus. I do not believe that Nazi is a yiddish term. Anyone have a source for that?


    What did the Nazi's refer to themselves as?

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    We also say 'Bazi' for someone who comes from Bayern. (A state and a people). It is some shortform not necessarily completly making sense.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    I have to say I've always found it strange how National Socialist becomes "Nazi" because the second syllable (zi) doesn't really resemble the world Socialist in any way.
    Nazi is simply short for National Socialist.

    National is a German word, just the same as the English. However, it is not pronounced the same. National sounds like "Nah-tsee-oh-nahl" in German.

    To shorten it to Nati would sound just like "Nah-tee" in German, so in order for it to make sense in German pronunciation they spelled it "Nazi". Z sounding like "ts"..."Nah-tsee".

    OR, they are taking the full term Nationalsozialismus and the NA is the National part and the ZI is the SoZIalismus part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soten View Post
    National is a German word, just the same as the English. However, it is not pronounced the same. National sounds like "Nah-tsee-oh-nahl" in German.
    It is actually Latin, from natio, "To be born of".

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    national is a latin word as well as socialist. But both have been pretty common in Germany.

    As the word Nazi was used during 33-45 it hasn't been derogative then but afterwards it has been used like that.

    Used in the foreign media or in other countries it is nothing but that. Includes Germany proper, as it is an occupied country with a puppet regime.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    It is actually Latin, from natio, "To be born of".
    lol. I didn't mean that its origin was German, just that it is a word in the German language. It's a German word, and an English word. Just like Nacional is a Spanish word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    We also say 'Bazi' for someone who comes from Bayern. (A state and a people). It is some shortform not necessarily completly making sense.
    Shortforms don't have to make sense. Otherwise there'd be no explanation why Jack is a nickname for John, Ted and Ned for Edward, nor Dick for Richard. They simply are.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Nazil most likely comes from the word national.

    In german you pronounce it nuh-tsi-o-nuhl.

    As you can see the first 2 syllabels pronounce like Nazi.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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