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    Post Nazi Means German in Yiddish

    Nazi Means German in Yiddish

    This year i saw someone on the internet say this, but i did not saw any proof, strangely i never heard anyone say this so i started searching because if this is true then allot of things will change.

    The points i found:

    Ashkenazi Jews
    Ashkenazi Jews are the Jews descended from the medieval Jewish communities along the Rhine in Germany from Alsace in the south to the Rhineland in the north. Ashkenaz is the medieval Hebrew name for this region and thus for Germany. Thus, Ashkenazim or Ashkenazi Jews are literally "German Jews." Later, Jews from Western and Central Europe came to be called "Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.

    Ashkenaz (Germany)

    Ashkenaz in later Hebrew tradition became identified with the peoples of Germany, and in particular to the area along the Rhine.

    In the first half of the 11th century, Hai Gaon refers to questions that had been addressed to him from Ashkenaz, by which he undoubtedly means Germany. Rashi in the latter half of the 11th century refers to both the language of Ashkenaz and the country of Ashkenaz.

    In the Midrash compilation Genesis Rabbah, Rabbi Berechiah mentions Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah as German tribes or as German lands. It may correspond to a Greek word that may have existed in the Greek dialect of the Palestinian Jews, or the text is corrupted from "Germanica." This view of Berechiah is based on the Talmud (Yoma 10a; Jerusalem Talmud Megillah 71b), where Gomer, the father of Ashkenaz, is translated by Germamia, which evidently stands for Germany, and which was suggested by the similarity of the sound.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi


    Ashkenaz is a Medieval Hebrew name for Germany. European Jews came to be called "Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.

    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ashkenazi


    Plural: Ashkenazis (people)
    http://www.yiddishdictionaryonline.c...5230f5b58e24e5

    I have also red that Ashke means Beloved or soul mate, so Ashkenazi means Beloved German or soul mate German, Ashkenazi does not mean German Jews, it is Ashkenazi Jews, beloved German Jews.


    If people have more information about this please post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Autumn View Post
    I have also red that Ashke means Beloved or soul mate, so Ashkenazi means Beloved German or soul mate German, Ashkenazi does not mean German Jews, it is Ashkenazi Jews, beloved German Jews.
    Then you should try to find out more about that. But if true then it indeed offers a different point of view on the entire Nazi-label.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Autumn View Post
    Ashkenaz is a Medieval Hebrew name for Germany. European Jews came to be called "Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.

    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ashkenazi
    Also interesting how Ashkenazis are significantly of higher intelligence that Sephardic Jews (the other main Jewish sub-race) since they were the most inter-bred with Germanic peoples than the Sephardics which are of more Arabic/Armenoid race and phenotype.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/06/a...elligence.html
    http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/IQgenes.htm

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    Here's an interesting excerpt as well ...

    Has anyone ever given any though to the origin of the word Nazi ? We
    all *think* we know where it comes from, but do we ? I asked the
    question when I was a little boy and I got a response similar to this:

    Little boy asks ---

    "What does the word Nazi mean? "

    What I find remarkable is that I have only heard the word "nazi"
    applied to two groups of people. (1) the Fascists of Germany and (2)
    the Jewish people descended from community of Jews in Germany. The
    latter I only heard of in recent years since I've been on the
    internet. Do they have the same source ? Can this be a pure
    coincidence ?

    The best I can determine "ashkenazi" is a combination yiddish and/or
    Hebrew word referring to the Jewish people who were located in
    Germany. A closer look will show that the word "ashke" means
    "beloved" or "soul mate". I suppose this was how the larger Jewish
    community referred to their relatives who were in Germany a few
    hundred years ago. So if "ashke" is "beloved" what is "naz" ? It
    appears to mean "german". Add an "i" (nazi) and you get the plural
    form for "germans". When used by a 1930s era Jew, the word
    Ashkenazi, loosely translated is -- "our soul mates in/from Germany".
    When used without the "ashke", (plain nazi) it meant "all those
    goddamn people in Germany".

    When Hitler's fascists took over in Germany and started giving the
    Jewish people a hard time, it would only have been natural for them
    to lash back with a pejorative such as "krauts" or "Huns". But in
    Yiddish, they probably favored the word "nazi" applied to " all of
    those damn Germans". Apparently the news media in Britain and America,
    in their usual lazy manner, picked up this slang and used it during
    the war years.

    Given the political tensions of the 1940s, it is understandable that
    the European Jews would lash out at their Christian neighbors. But
    why has the American media maintained the slander of a great people
    for all these years ?

    Here we are now 64 years after the end of Hitler's rule and we are
    still using a epithet that demeans all Germans. It would like the
    English calling the Germans "krauts" during WW2 -- which they did --
    but still doing so. Is it not time to discard this hateful word ?
    Would the same people who use it, use the words "***" or "***"
    in social conversation ? Then why refer to Germans as nazis ? It?s
    the same thing.

    http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg00200.html

    I have to say I've always found it strange how National Socialist becomes "Nazi" because the second syllable (zi) doesn't really resemble the world Socialist in any way.

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    Ashkenazi comes from the Ash tree= the tree of life of germanic mythology and the word Kenaz which means Knowledge. (Kenaz is also a rune with the same meaning)

    Ashkenazi are there fore the people who have knowledge of the tree of life.

    Which might be a name an early german tribe used for themself which came first in contact with the 'chosen'.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    I am pretty certain that Nazi is just short for National Socialist and has no hidden meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    Ashkenazi comes from the Ash tree= the tree of life of germanic mythology and the word Kenaz which means Knowledge. (Kenaz is also a rune with the same meaning)

    Ashkenazi are there fore the people who have knowledge of the tree of life.

    Which might be a name an early german tribe used for themself which came first in contact with the 'chosen'.
    The tree of life (aka the Sephirot) being a central concept in Kabalah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magni View Post
    I am pretty certain that Nazi is just short for National Socialist and has no hidden meaning.
    I never said it has a hidden meaning, i am just saying that the word Nazi is Yiddish for German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Autumn View Post
    Ashkenazi Jews
    Ashkenazi Jews are the Jews descended from the medieval Jewish communities along the Rhine in Germany from Alsace in the south to the Rhineland in the north. Ashkenaz is the medieval Hebrew name for this region and thus for Germany. Thus, Ashkenazim or Ashkenazi Jews are literally "German Jews." Later, Jews from Western and Central Europe came to be called "Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.

    Ashkenaz (Germany)

    Ashkenaz in later Hebrew tradition became identified with the peoples of Germany, and in particular to the area along the Rhine.

    In the first half of the 11th century, Hai Gaon refers to questions that had been addressed to him from Ashkenaz, by which he undoubtedly means Germany. Rashi in the latter half of the 11th century refers to both the language of Ashkenaz and the country of Ashkenaz.

    In the Midrash compilation Genesis Rabbah, Rabbi Berechiah mentions Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah as German tribes or as German lands. It may correspond to a Greek word that may have existed in the Greek dialect of the Palestinian Jews, or the text is corrupted from "Germanica." This view of Berechiah is based on the Talmud (Yoma 10a; Jerusalem Talmud Megillah 71b), where Gomer, the father of Ashkenaz, is translated by Germamia, which evidently stands for Germany, and which was suggested by the similarity of the sound.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi


    Ashkenaz is a Medieval Hebrew name for Germany. European Jews came to be called "Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.

    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ashkenazi


    Plural: Ashkenazis (people)
    http://www.yiddishdictionaryonline.c...5230f5b58e24e5

    I have also red that Ashke means Beloved or soul mate, so Ashkenazi means Beloved German or soul mate German, Ashkenazi does not mean German Jews, it is Ashkenazi Jews, beloved German Jews.


    If people have more information about this please post it.
    I have noticed this & wondered if "Nazi" was ever slang for Ashkenazi, though I assumed it would just refer to German Jews or Eastern European Jews, not to Germans themselves. But I am looking at the issue from a Gentile perceptive, maybe the Yiddish speaking Jews used the phrase Nazi before the 1930s for Germans, they certainly use it today.

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    I always heard that Nazi was a slang word for Nationalist in Germany, in the same way that Sozi was a slang word for Socialists.
    I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger.
    I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night.
    Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power!
    I AM BEOWULF!

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