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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindefense View Post
    This is true, yet there may be a lesson in this. It is not what being part of the race can do for us that matters but what we do as that part. At the end of a races usefulness the people no longer produce culture instead they become preoccupied in the pursuit of civilized life harboring either suicidal urges or preservationist fancies. The former in an attempt to destroy the race the latter in an attempt to preserve it. The race will not be destroyed nor will it be preserved. It must live and it's life comes from those who continue to create culture. From them the race is given value and based on this value, it's form. Should that form diminishes in beauty it is only because the value of the culture has diminished likewise, or more simply put, what is inside comes to manifest itself on the outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    White Eastern Europeans may well be all those things. It's hard to say, since nobody has ever found one.
    LOL. I just found one with a quick Google search.
    Russian tennis player Elena Dementieva:

    And another one (also a tennis player; you may recognize her)

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    That western manifest destiny is still deep in my soul, but each day the fire burns a little less vibrantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    I do if only because I represent the white working poor of the United States.

    No offense but you said yourself that your somewhat of a middle class farmer from what I've gathered from other threads if I'm correct and I wouldn't think that the middle class see disparities as much as us lower income folks such as myself.

    I would not think the economy afflicts people like yourself the same way as it does for folks like myself in that often enough us lower income folks are economical prisoners in that we are the first to be affected by it's turmoil being that we are on the low end of society where we have less power or influence to defend our interests collectively in comparison.

    Perhaps if they are the upper or middle classes when it concerns income but being that I represent the lower class and strata of society I can tell you that we are usually the first constantly thrown under the proverbial bus in that by our more fortunate ethnic European brethren of the United States they are quick to sacrifice the lower segment of the population to protect their own tails where they are willing to sacrifice a poor white like a common illegal Mexican laborer.

    I've been poor my entire life. Have you?


    I have nothing but expiriences illustrating how ethnic Europeans that are on the wealthy spectrum of the United States are always so eager to sacrifice their poor brethren at any chance if it means to save themselves.
    First off I grew up poor and when I did much of traveling I was poor.

    Yes, I used to buy into the whole idea of class struggle, but then I realized it was not true. It is a created thought process to to destroy hope and create division.

    Ever wonder why the evening news is filled with such despair, while yes bad things do happen. Yet most of life is not bad. The whole idea of despair and gloom is encouraged in the media as a way to sell it to you.

    Well I'd gladly like to see a happy spin if I can find one believeable enough.
    Look around you. Better yet look at any area where mass welfare is not a problem. You will see folk helping and trying to help each other everyday. Sure it may be in small ways, but all the same it is help.



    Maybe not for you......
    If you have read enough of my post then you should know that I was poor at one time(2/3 of my life). Only I learned to work for what I have. It is the proof that in America most things are all possible.

    I have lived in both rural and urban America.

    I don't see much of a difference.
    Except crime rates, interracial mixing, welfare entitlement mentality. The ability of clean living conditions, food prices are less and the cost of housing.

    Yet, in the rural areas you have to work for those things. There is less government to 'help' you.


    Poverty is relative between nations just as culture is where there is nothing to compare.

    The poverty of somebody in Mogadishu is not comparable to the poverty of somebody in Washington D.C.
    Yes it comparable when the person in Washington DC has the opportunity to work his way above poverty. The person in a third world country does not. Is this not the topic of this thread whether to give up and flee or stand up and be counted.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    And by the way, I'm glad you wouldn't be happy in the UK, because I certainly don't want any of your Polish blood in my country.
    Well that is not a very nice thing to say, I find that she does not look Polish in the least. If anything if I did not know her ancestry I would have thought that she was Balto-Germanic.


    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    Guess what? Fuck you. I really don't care what you think and I hope all of those ugly nasty Slavs that you hate so much move over there and take it over. When that happens, I will laugh my ass off. English people aren't even Germanic anyway (at least I don't see them as so) so I don't know why you have your head up your "arse" lol. If you all are so great then why are you afraid to stop all of the immigrants from coming to your country? Personally I think many white Eastern Europeans are more good looking, hardworking, and intelligent than any of your lazy fat asses will be.
    Well that is not a very nice thing to say either, the English are Germanic, well technically Celto-Germanic more than Germanic because of Germanic expansion unto the Islands in the fifth century. Eastern Europeans on the other hand are not Germanic, even if some of them are Eastern-Nordid (which are hardly the majority of the Slavic population), the Eastern Europeans are quite diverse and they range from very white to very non-white, but united under Pan-Slavicism, which becomes quite a bad thing for Germanic nations when such people decide to emigrate to in high numbers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Plantagenet View Post
    They are more nationalistic and folk-oriented than our people today. They aren't all bad.
    The enemy per say is not Slavs as a whole, but Slavicism and Pan-Slavicism, which Poles are very hardent supporters of, in this regard, Poles are similar to Jews. For the people in the UK, how many Poles have you met that tried to pass themselves off as Germanics? Very much like jews try to pass themselves off as gentiles? I have met plenty.

    The fact that they are more nationalistic than we are, should not be something for us to rejoice over, as Pan-Slavicism is something were it's followers are of this persuasion:




    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    LOL. I just found one with a quick Google search.
    Russian tennis player Elena Dementieva:
    If anything Elena Dementieva looks Baltic not Slavic, it wouldn't be surprising if she had Estonian ancestry.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    LAnd another one (also a tennis player; you may recognize her)
    Looks like a Volga Tatar with bleached hairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    LOL. I just found one with a quick Google search.
    Russian tennis player Elena Dementieva:

    And another one (also a tennis player; you may recognize her)
    There are plenty of mixed race people who appear fully European. But two things prevent them from being 'white': First, they carry non-white genes that may, and probably will, resurface in later generations. Second, how do you know that mongoloid genes in her aren't expressed in non-physical ways? All you can say is that no (or too few to be noticable) non-European genes contribute to the structure of her face. You don't know how much they contribute to non-facial or non-physical characteristics.

    So long story short, if someone has extensive or exclusive ancestral heritage in a region that has invaded/settled by Scythians, Avars, Huns, Bulgars, Turks, Mongols, Gypsies, Tatars, Khazars, AND of cource prehistoric Uralics, then they will have a lot of non-European ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    The reason I don't think British people are Germanic (although they are mixed with Saxons) is because the Celts and the Angles were probably descended from people in the caucuses. True Germanics, I think are a little more different. If you look at the culture of say Georgia for example (not that I am an admirer of those people) you will see how similar it is to the old culture of Scotland (bagpipes, food, dancing and even the language a little bit). Something tells me Caucasians have been doing those traditions longer than Europeans have and it only makes sense that eventually we all descended from people in that general area. The different groups of Europeans descended more closely from caucasians (Slavs, Angles, celts) are not that genetically different. They have only adapted and changed to their environments. Not that I even care, I just wanted to make that point.
    I don't understand. You don't think the British are Germanic because you think the Celts and Angles are descended from peoples in the Caucasus? Then you say that we're all descended from people in the Caucasus but the 'true Germanics' are 'more different' than groups such as the Celts, the Slavs and the Angles? Firstly, the Angles do not form their own branch of Indo-European culture. They were a Germanic people from the Angeln region of Schleswig-Holstein, when on the continent and indeed when in the British Isles, they spoken a Germanic language, worshipped Germanic gods and indulged in Germanic culture - they also had a greater, larger, effect on the formulation of England than did the Saxons, so I don't know where you get the idea that 'mixing with the Saxons' is of much importance. Secondly, Celtic is a term in dispute and not only that but it is an umbarella term describing a diverse group of north-western European people whom may or may not have all actually been Celtic. Take the Picts as an example - a people often described as being Indo-European P-Celtic speakers, similiar in their mannerisms to the Britons, however there is no genuine evidence for this: the mysterious Picts may have been pre-Indo-European speakers, they may have been Germanic speakers, they may have been a multitude of tribes with a multitude of cultures, rather than one monolithic culture. There are a few theories. This brings me on to my next point. If when you relate Scottish culture to Georgian culture and use this as a justification for arguing shared descend, what you are trying to do is emphasise western Europes pre-Indo-European roots, you would be partially correct in doing so. If you are relating Scottish language to Georgian language and Scottish culture to Georgian culture, as it appears you are doing, you would be incorrect. Scots is a Germanic language and Scottish-Gaelic is a Q-Celtic, Indo-European, language. The Georgian language isn't even Indo-European and neither, at large, is their culture. Back to the British, though. The 'British' are of course not a Germanc people, considering the term British itself refers to a conglomerate of presumedly Celtic speaking tribes (as described so by outsiders). 'British' however is simply official terminology, refering to a group of people including the English, the Scottish, the Welsh and those who reside on our many islands. 'British' refers to a Celto-Germanic collective, English to a Germanic people, Scots to a Celto-Germanic, arguably Germanic, people, Scottish (of the Gaelic variety) a Celto-Germanic, mostly Celtic people and lastly, Welsh, to a Celtic people. The English are Germanic, there is no doubt, and the Angles, their predecessors, were Germanic, too. Very much so.

    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    Only because they were heavily mixed with saxons for generations. The pure angles were not really Germanic, they actually hated those people.
    This, to me, does not make any sense. I still don't know where you get this from. Again, the Angles were Germanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    The reason I don't think British people are Germanic (although they are mixed with Saxons) is because the Celts and the Angles were probably descended from people in the caucuses. True Germanics, I think are a little more different. If you look at the culture of say Georgia for example (not that I am an admirer of those people) you will see how similar it is to the old culture of Scotland (bagpipes, food, dancing and even the language a little bit). Something tells me Caucasians have been doing those traditions longer than Europeans have and it only makes sense that eventually we all descended from people in that general area. The different groups of Europeans descended more closely from caucasians (Slavs, Angles, celts) are not that genetically different. They have only adapted and changed to their environments. Not that I even care, I just wanted to make that point.
    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess
    Only because they were heavily mixed with saxons for generations. The pure angles were not really Germanic, they actually hated those people.
    Yeah I think that you should probably just stop talking for awhile...

    What you wrote above is completely crazy and incorrect, so please reflect on that, and then re-evaluate what you have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenwulf View Post
    I don't understand. You don't think the British are Germanic because you think the Celts and Angles are descended from peoples in the Caucasus? Then you say that we're all descended from people in the Caucasus but the 'true Germanics' are 'more different' than groups such as the Celts, the Slavs and the Angles? Firstly, the Angles do not form their own branch of Indo-European culture. They were a Germanic people from the Angeln region of Schleswig-Holstein, when on the continent and indeed when in the British Isles, they spoken a Germanic language, worshipped Germanic gods and indulged in Germanic culture - they also had a greater, larger, effect on the formulation of England than did the Saxons, so I don't know where you get the idea that 'mixing with the Saxons' is of much importance. Secondly, Celtic is a term in dispute and not only that but it is an umbarella term describing a diverse group of north-western European people whom may or may not have all actually been Celtic. Take the Picts as an example - a people often described as being Indo-European P-Celtic speakers, similiar in their mannerisms to the Britons, however there is no genuine evidence for this: the mysterious Picts may have been pre-Indo-European speakers, they may have been Germanic speakers, they may have been a multitude of tribes with a multitude of cultures, rather than one monolithic culture. There are a few theories. This brings me on to my next point. If when you relate Scottish culture to Georgian culture and use this as a justification for arguing shared descend, what you are trying to do is emphasise western Europes pre-Indo-European roots, you would be partially correct in doing so. If you are relating Scottish language to Georgian language and Scottish culture to Georgian culture, as it appears you are doing, you would be incorrect. Scots is a Germanic language and Scottish-Gaelic is a Q-Celtic, Indo-European, language. The Georgian language isn't even Indo-European and neither, at large, is their culture. Back to the British, though. The 'British' are of course not a Germanc people, considering the term British itself refers to a conglomerate of presumedly Celtic speaking tribes (as described so by outsiders). 'British' however is simply official terminology, refering to a group of people including the English, the Scottish, the Welsh and those who reside on our many islands. 'British' refers to a Celto-Germanic collective, English to a Germanic people, Scots to a Celto-Germanic, arguably Germanic, people, Scottish (of the Gaelic variety) a Celto-Germanic, mostly Celtic people and lastly, Welsh, to a Celtic people. The English are Germanic, there is no doubt, and the Angles, their predecessors, were Germanic, too. Very much so.



    This, to me, does not make any sense. I still don't know where you get this from. Again, the Angles were Germanic.

    The English occupy an interesting genetic position in relation to Germanics and Celts. According to Cavalli-Sforza's autosomal research (which was early 90's, so may be a bit outdated), the genetic difference between Irish (arguably the purest Celts) and Germans has a value of 84. Compared to that, the genetic difference between English and Irish is 30, and between English and Germans it's 22. The genetic difference between Germans and Swedes is 39, so mixture with Celts hasn't dissolved our genetic relations with other Germanics and made us some kind of outcast group. We're very strongly related to continental Germanics, but we're also strongly related to British Isles Celts (a lot more so than continental Germanics).

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    The data I've seen indicates that ethnic Russians (not Russian nationals, but actual ethnic Russians) are no more than 3% non-white, and that probably comes from contact with Finno-Ugric peoples, not the Mongol invasion. There has long been a great deal of overemphasis on the 'Mongol' taint of Russians, and of course the Nazis used this as part of their justification and propaganda in waging aggressive war.

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