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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    "If Islam hadn't pushed entire regions on earth into poverty, they'd probably be much more advanced."

    This is wrong, I believe. There are few nations in the world which could proclaim itself as fully materialistically rich. "Poverty" is just a word to describe the situation of people not living by Western standards, from an illusioned Western point of view.

    Islam isn't more retarded than Christian scholastics either, and has always had an urge for science and progress in a Gnostic way, even though modern (and traditional) Islamic streams like wahhabism and so-called fundamentalism call for a more traditional society. But many Skadi visitors call for a traditionalist society too..

    However, I don't believe Maria meant that all Europeans converting to Islam will save the descent of world cultures, but that ground of Islam is the bastion (the last?) in saving world cultures from the American-Israeli plague.

    I'm fond of Islam, not merely because Moslems are fighting America and Israel, but because of its rich spiritual sense in a decaying world. That doesn't mean I believe Islam should overtake Europe's nations, but that new fresh thinking may be good for the sterile spiritual environment of authorized Christianity in Europe. Hope that Spengler's "Second Religiousness" will bloom out soon too..

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deling
    "If Islam hadn't pushed entire regions on earth into poverty, they'd probably be much more advanced."

    This is wrong, I believe. There are few nations in the world which could proclaim itself as fully materialistically rich. "Poverty" is just a word to describe the situation of people not living by Western standards, from an illusioned Western point of view.

    Islam isn't more retarded than Christian scholastics either, and has always had an urge for science and progress in a Gnostic way, even though modern (and traditional) Islamic streams like wahhabism and so-called fundamentalism call for a more traditional society. But many Skadi visitors call for a traditionalist society too..

    However, I don't believe Maria meant that all Europeans converting to Islam will save the descent of world cultures, but that ground of Islam is the bastion (the last?) in saving world cultures from the American-Israeli plague.

    I'm fond of Islam, not merely because Moslems are fighting America and Israel, but because of its rich spiritual sense in a decaying world. That doesn't mean I believe Islam should overtake Europe's nations, but that new fresh thinking may be good for the sterile spiritual environment of authorized Christianity in Europe. Hope that Spengler's "Second Religiousness" will bloom out soon too..
    Islam is not for Europeans. Islam along with the Islamic culture is distinctly Middle Eastern in nature and not compatible with the freedom loving European Spirit. Islam is an Oppressive and backward Religion. I don't see how it will ever gain acceptance among Europeans the way it oppresses women and sees them as nothing more than the property of men.

    Not only that Muslims and Islam are a threat to the European Race and Culture. This is evident for anyone who has visisted France,Germany,Sweden,ect...and seen all the Mudslims in their ghettos wandering out only to rob or Gang rape Europeans.

    Islam is just a rallying cry for the reconquest of Europe by filthy Mudslims. That's all it is.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    If you read what I wrote, you'll find that I didn't believed that Islam is an answer to Europe's religious problems. Have you been in France, Germany and Sweden looking at ghettos at all? Not a typical way for a Yank to have vacation.

    Your opinion is that Islam is "backward and oppressive", but that's just clichés without substance, just as that writing about Europe's "freedom-loving spirit bla bla". I've never seen that freedom-loving, and WHAT freedom? The one your great America has given us?

    Rather typical of Americans to be more paranoid of the Evil Moslem Conspiracy Invasion: Billions Of Dark-Skinned Hordes Marching Through The Gates To Europe With Knives To Rape And Plunder, when many serious nationalists here aren't all that hysterical. Moslems aren't trying to conquer Europe, most of them have fled their homelands to AVOID what you call "backwardness and oppression" (instituted by the corrupt Yankee-backed governments), or opening a pizza bar, living on welfare or whatever. It's a big problem, and I hope most immigrants go home again (as Islamists wants them to do). But talking about invasion forces of killer-happy dark-musty Moslems with a destructive agenda is like believing in the events of the movie Independence Day. Fiction, not reality, in other words. Good propaganda towards immigration though.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    All religions apart from religions developed exclusively by white people and followed by white people are a threat to white people, it doesn't matter if its Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity or Hare Krishna.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    I don't believe religions are man-made, they are expressions of the feeling and social climate of a specific epoch. The prophets igniting the glare of faith from time to time are however men. Or above man.

    I have no idea what 'white' really means, except as a metaphysical concept, so I have no idea which religions and beliefs were instigated by 'Whites' thousand of years ago. But Christianity can't be a 'White' religion then: it says in the New Testament that Jesus is jewish.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deling
    I don't believe religions are man-made, they are expressions of the feeling and social climate of a specific epoch. The prophets igniting the glare of faith from time to time are however men. Or above man.

    I have no idea what 'white' really means, except as a metaphysical concept, so I have no idea which religions and beliefs were instigated by 'Whites' thousand of years ago. But Christianity can't be a 'White' religion then: it says in the New Testament that Jesus is jewish.
    But Christianity has been in Europe for many Centuries and therefore has in many ways been "Europeanized". Just take a look at the celebration of Christmas or Easter. They incoporate in them many Pre-Christian Pagan Aspects.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    Yes, I know and I fully agree. I see no greater conflict between the Germanic heathendom (or any other) and the adapted Gothic-"Faustian" Christianity, even though I dislike organized Christian institutions, and the Jesus cult (which is the practical symbolism of organized religion in Europe).

    I just used your rhetoric about exclusive White and non-White religions against you. Just polemics that is.

    But regarding Islam: I must say that Islam is a threat to the white race, if the white race is synonymous with America. Otherwise I see the rebellious Arab as the best friend one could have against the American-Zionist yoke.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    Islam is an anti_racist religion. Personaly I can't accept that religion. I say every nation should keep their own original pagan culture.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    Given that there is going to be a power shift from America/Europe to Asia/Africa within the century,
    Asia, not Africa. There are genetic reasons for that (IQ<70).

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    The Iraqi people are as Aryan as any White American can claim to be.
    I wonder if Maria Hussain is into linguistics or genetics, shes not right in either case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    If we adopt tribal loyalty to the Aryan race on principle, instead of blind loyalty to “the West,” there is suddenly no reason to fear the East.
    She does have some points. But do we really need Islam for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    The above verse from the Quran clearly demonstrates that the various races, including White, are to be preserved. Muslims have no desire to make the White race disappear. There is no Islamic prohibition against inter-tribal marriage, but in that case the woman leaves her family home and joins the tribe of her husband.
    And it is also the case that the "Aryan" natives loose one woman to the foreigners in that scenario.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    The Muslims are willing to die to defend the chastity of White women. Look at how they ran to Bosnia to fight. The Taliban formed a militia to defend the honor of Afghanistan because one of their precious Aryan women had been raped. A chaste White woman is considered the jewel of Creation and Muslims will happily lay down their lives for her.

    The Pakistanis, the Arabs, the Black Muslims: very few of them want a White woman for a daughter-in-law. They are not prepared to absorb White girls into their families.
    And this is where Maria Hussain leaves the real world and starts to wander of into Dreamland... I worked with Muslims on several occasions, and I happen to know that they are just men. And any man prefers a Swedish woman rather than a Black or Brown woman. Among the Muslims I worked with, it was a sign of succes and status to have a Swedish girlfriend.

    Many of the Mujahedin who went to Bosnia to protect white women stayed there BTW, marrying local white women.

    Maria Hussain has several points regarding the present state of Western culture and politics, but one could just as easily turn to a Pagan thinker like David Lane or an NS like David Myatt to hear similar things. We dont have to become Muslims to be spiritual

    We are going to have to repatriate a large amount of foreigners in the near future, and many of them are Muslims. Adopting their religion is not going to make it any easier.

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    Post Re: Is Islam a threat to the White race?

    If we look at histroy we find that Islam doesent=race mixing, take the Ottoman' empire the Xian Armenians, Greeks, and Kurd's retained there racial and cultural independance. In fact it was Ataturk with his pan-european nationalism that caused the Turkish people to become intolerant of other races and religions within the empire forcing all peoples to become "turk". Islam would however elevate arab culture and language above the native peoples though.And in this sense it promotes "race mixing"

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